Dont be surprised if the Chinese swingman Yi Jianlin goes #3.

I wont be, but all the stuff I've seen has Wright third behind Oden and Durant.

just something Chad Ford wrote about on espn.com

apparently a lot of people are high on Jianlin. Who knows it could end up being someone like Julian Wright.

Who is your team? I don't remember because last I saw you were still whining about the Eagles losing to the Saints. Or maybe it's because you are to scared to open your mouth and say who it is, I'm sure we will find out right after next Monday's game who your team is. We can still count cowboys rings vs eagles rings if you want... it won't take long.

Like I said, you haven't' said a word in the basketball forum till you came in bragging about picking the final four correctly, something I bet no one in this forum saw before hand so of course you pat yourself on the back when no one can prove you otherwise.



Bill Simmons is a whiny retard who spouts conspiracy theories to make up gimmick articles, he is a sports shock jock... entertaining to read occasionally but he has less logic than my 7 year old son. He must have missed that most of Georgetown's shots the first 1/2 were coming from outside the paint while UNC went to the basket everytime down the court, you don't get a lot of foul calls shooting mid range jumpers or when your big post players are on the bench in foul trouble. In other words, I value your opinion more than his.

My point is if your making the call for 3/4ths the game, you can't stop calling it the last 4th. If anyone thinks that's good reffing they have never played, officiated, or competed in any type of organized sporting event. The refs set the tone for how they were going to call the game the first 10 minutes, you don't change it later.

Who is your team? I don't remember because last I saw you were still whining about the Eagles losing to the Saints. Or maybe it's because you are to scared to open your mouth and say who it is, I'm sure we will find out right after next Monday's game who your team is. We can still count cowboys rings vs eagles rings if you want... it won't take long.

I do not have a favorite NCAA basketball team, I am just a fan of the game itself. And please, by all means, go to the NFC East thread and show me where I 'whined' about. Hell, I even picked the SAINTS to win. Im not dumb, if I see the Eagles are outmatched, im gonna pick against them. I also alreay made a post in the 'Who will win the ncaa champ.' thread about who i thought would win. And of course, its like you to bring up super bowl rings, since the cowboys havent won a playoff game in what.....12 years now? Any idiot could tell you the Cowboys were better 15-20 years ago when you won the SBs, but thats not what I care about. How does some superbowl rings 15 years ago, make you a better team now?? Oh wait, it doesnt

Like I said, you haven't' said a word in the basketball forum till you came in bragging about picking the final four correctly, something I bet no one in this forum saw before hand so of course you pat yourself on the back when no one can prove you otherwise.


Here, Ill go get the link to the FCP Tournament Pick'em League on Yahoo I entered. That shows I had OSU, UCLA, GTown, an Florida in my final four. So once again, I prove you are nothing but a moron when it comes to sports.

http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/men/group/11426

There is the link to the group page where I am #1 at the moment, that also shows that my whole bracket is in the 97 percentile, Id say thats pretty good

http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/men/63638

And there is my bracket where I correctly picked the final four. Of course no one can prove me otherwise, since I have full proof that I did do it.

It's cute that you think anything other than superbowl victories matters in the NFL. You really think anyone is going to care what the Eagles did the last 5 years 15 years from now? You can use the what have you done lately argument, I'm asking what have the Eagles EVER done?

It's also cute that you don't support any teams, but sure open your mouth when someone else's loses, makes for a easy way to start an argument don't you think? You haven't posted anything about college basketball all year until the tournament, yep your a hardcore fan alright.

Just so you know, in my office pool two people who didn't watch a single game of college basketball all year correctly predicted the teams who made the final four, your not special.

BTW, your first link is broke, and you picked Duke to go to the sweet 16, proof that you didn't watch any college ball this year.

well if you value you my opinion more than I will say this: my fiance and I watched the whole UNC v. Gtwon game and we both were commenting often that UNC seemed to be getting ALL the calls. As far as street cred goes my favorite team is the Penn Quakers (alma mater) and I picked VCU over Duke (I had them beating Pitt too, got close).

look I realize that it is annoying when refs seem to "swallow the whistle" at the end of games but that is not uncommon. I also still stand by my original point: it is hard to argue that the refs played a role in your team's demise when your team enjoyed such a large free throw advantage. I do agree that Gtown shot more mid range jumpers (and made a TON of them just to hang around) but I still felt watching the game that if anything UNC was getting the better of the officiating.

simmons does have the tendency to go the conspiracy route but he also will make very great overreaching points about basketball.

It's cute that you think anything other than superbowl victories matters in the NFL. You really think anyone is going to care what the Eagles did the last 5 years 15 years from now? You can use the what have you done lately argument, I'm asking what have the Eagles EVER done?

Once again, your idiotic self thinks that what happened 15 years ago proves who the better team is now....silly douchebag

It's also cute that you don't support any teams, but sure open your mouth when someone else's loses, makes for a easy way to start an argument don't you think? You haven't posted anything about college basketball all year until the tournament, yep your a hardcore fan alright.

Once again, please find where I claimed to be hardcore fan. This is why you suck so much, you are always wrong and then you try and make up for it by making up complete bullshit. Like my 'whining' over the Eagles losing to the saints or me claiming Im a hardcore fan.

Just so you know, in my office pool two people who didn't watch a single game of college basketball all year correctly predicted the teams who made the final four, your not special

I never said I was special, just stating the FACT that i picked all four correct. Thats the difference between you and me. I state facts, you state bullshit

BTW, your first link is broke, and you picked Duke to go to the sweet 16, proof that you didn't watch any college ball this year

ZOMG!!!!!! I picked an upset in my brakcet!!!!!! Unpossibly un-smart!!!!!!! What kind of idiot picks upset in his bracket!!!!!! Absolutely distardard!!!!

Btw, I did watch a good sum of games and i did see Dukes complete collapse, but god forbid I pick an upset, because those never happen. Its not like an 11-seed went to the Final Four last year....pfft


God, how is it possible for someone to be this ****ing stupid?!?!?!?

Let me make this clear for you since your obviously missing the point. Once your team wins championships, thats the goal for your team every year, anything else it's just steps to get to that point. I understand that because your an eagles fan, you have never experienced a superbowl victory, so you have to take these little moral victories to satisfy your manhood like "my team is better now", what does that mean anyway? You get a worst draft pick than us an make no postseason progress because your organization doesn't know what it takes to get there because they have never done it. Oh that right, your team is regressing, went from a few straight championship games and a superbowl appearance to losing in the divisional round, next year it will be a loss in the wild card round...

Look at it this way, the NFC has been so bad the last few years, the Eagles run of NFC championship game appearances and single victory is worse than what the Bills did in the early 90's in the AFC when the NFC was the far superior conference. At least the Bills consistently won the title game, they didn't lose 80% of the time in the weak division.

Your the one who claimed to be a "fan of the game itself", sure you didn't use the word hardcore I added it in because that's how Eagles fans are right? Your the most passionate hardcore fans in sports. I hope I don't need to put up a SW...

If it's so easy for an 11 seed to make the final four, why didn't you have one in it this year? Nevermind, don't answer that I already know what you will say.



What did I say that was bullshit exactly, that you talk trash and don't support anyone so you can be cool and not get mocked when your team loses. I think that's pretty obvious to everyone.

Duke was a 6 seed, they were expected to get out of the first round based on seeding. Anyone who watched them play as much as you claimed to should have known they were not a legit 6 seed and would struggle getting out of the first round let alone getting to the sweet 16.



I ask myself that every time you make a post where you can't quote someones previous post correctly, or resort to calling names to prove a point... what are you 17? How's the pregnancy thing going, I haven't been keeping up on the thread?

Bolded: thats exactly what I mean. A good ref doesn't change the way they officiate based on time and score. GT because the more aggressive team at the end of the game, but one play that stands out in my head was one of Hansbourogh's last baskets with about 4 minutes left in the game where he posted up Hibbard, dropstepped, was slapped by two other players on the both of his arms knocking the ball lose which he managed to grab again on the way up before getting smacked in the head by Hibbard and still making the basket. He took 3 different fouls on that play any one of which had been called up to that point and three of them happen and nothing gets called. Looks a little suspicious is all I am saying. In the last minute or 30 seconds I understand not calling cheap fouls to have the game end up decided by free throws, but plays like that where a player is clearly hacked multiple times are ridiculous not to call.

bah dum bump.

**** UNC they have been killing IU in recruiting recently, and it looks like they are about to grab Tyler Zeller (#22 prospect, Rivals.com) away from us again.

where'd you hear that?

I have my sources, he's supposed to make his official announcement later today.

Actually I just saw it on an Indiana hoops blog that I read, here.

Can you blame the kid?

Well good for UNC. Im sure that IU's recruiting violations didnt help them in this thing.



Seems to me he made the right decision. UNC is a top 5 program right now, Indiana is not.

Meh, I'm sure the violations didn't help; IU was a long-shot to land him anyway, but I still hoped. Also, it isn't just him, UNC has been stealing recruits out of Indiana for a while now. Sean May being the best example. Damn you Mike Davis!

Well, I always hear that schools like Duke and Carolina dont recruit, they select. IU just isnt on that level right now, maybe in a few years though.

UNC right now basically gets who they want, Duke not so much. They just lost their primary target and #1 prospect recruit for the '08 class to Georgetown. It's just kind of frustrating to see these high-level recruits leaving the state of Indiana. Being one of the most prestigious basketball programs in the nation came from the ability to get every top recruit out of this state, NOBODY used to be able to recruit in Indiana. But that was a waaaay long time ago, maybe we can get there again.

Good, duck fuke. I heard that Kanas just got two twins too commit, and they are both supposed to be real good. I cant believe Georgetown got the #1 player though, I guess they are back.

Yea it was quite the shocker when it happened, everybody thought Duke was the front-runner, and then the recruit (Greg Monroe) visited Georgetown and a day later committed there. I'm sure JT-III introduced him to some nice DC hookers to win him over.

Yea, Kansas just committed to 4-star PF twins out of New Jersey, Marcus and Markieff Morris.

Preseason final four predictions:

UNC (obviously)
UCLA
Louisville
Kansas ( i hope)


I like UNC to win it all, but Lousiville has a good shot too. I like that team.

Final 4:

UNC
UCLA
Indiana (duh!)
Memphis

UCLA to win it all, Darren Collison is the best PG in the nation and Josh Shipp is just as capable at scoring as Afflalo was. Also, I think Kevin Love will have the biggest impact of any newcomer this year.

It's going to be a good season.

UNC is my team but the competition is going to be really good this year. I can't wait for the preseason tournaments to get underway.

Looks like he committed to UNC today.

UNC recruits - He needs to um... find a better photo for circulation than that one.

excellent.

Zeller is a good player, he's 6-11 with range and a nice inside touch. Should be a solid player at UNC for the next few years.

I've seen Love play, he is solid but that Rose kid at Memphis might disagree with your assessment... you see what he did tonight?

Jadaki: What kind of Michigan fan are you cheering for UNC? Blasphemy sir, blasphemy.

I like Memphis and UCLA in the finals, with a big time Memphis win.

Now I didn't say Love was the best player, just that he might have the biggest impact. I say this because he could finally give UCLA the interior scoring threat they need. Derrick Rose is absolutely sick. If I had to pick the most talented three freshman I would go with him, Michael Beasley of Kansas State, and Eric Gordon of Indiana.

I've always been a fan of both schools, unfortunately Michigan's basketball program has been crap since the late 90's and UNC generally sucks at football though with the new coach there I'm hoping they will improve. I named my son after a Michigan basketball player though.

Tough game for an opener. Hansbrough played ok, Lawson eliminated. But they won.


And the refereeing was absolutely pitiful. Both ways. Far too many ticky tack fouls called. I mean christ almighty, let them play.

Davidson is definitely no slouch of a team, but I was still surprised by the box score. UNC won by four, but Davidson shot only 38.2%. Usually when you see these mid-major teams hang in tough with these powerhouses it's because they come in and shoot the lights out.

UNC did not play well. If you were to ask me (an admitted homer) the refs took UNC out of their game. UNC was unable to run because Lawson got in foul trouble early, and when they cant run, they dont play well. Now the refs were equally bad for both teams, DAvidson got a lot of bad calls against them. But it played into their hands for the game to be a half court, big ten type game. UNC was able to run in spurts and when they did, Davidson had no shot. Then the refs got to blowing those whistles and the game screached to a halt on both ends and UNC got out of rythm. Plus Hansbrough got a technical in the second half and he AND Lawson were on the bench for a while.

Davidson was a 29 win team year that returned their entire starting lineup. They will be playing in March.

No doubt. All things considered I find that to be an impressive win. To not play well and still beat a team of that caliber this early is big.

Stephon Curry is a big time player. After the game, it was revealed that he has a torn ligament in his wrist and he's gonna play through it for the rest of the season. Tough dude. I didn't actually think Davidson played very well, they missed a lot of chippies, as did the heels. The fouls on Ty Lawson were kind of fluky but Ty really didn't play too well; 4 turnovers and 1 assist isn't gonna cut it. Deon Thompson definitely needs to step up and take some of the defensive attention away from Tyler, Deon's supposed to be one of the most improved players on the team and he did not play well against Davidson. Nice to see Wayne play well and make some clutch shots, hopefully we'll get our problems shored away tonight against Iona, should be a blowout.

We Carolina fans have been slacking. Soon football will be over, and our full attention can be given to the number one team in all the land.

Indeed we shall.

Ugh, we are just complete opposites Jadaki as i hate UNC as well.

Are you a Duke fan?

hell no

Then I don't really care. I don't expect much out of Michigan basketball, the rivalry with OSU isn't like the football games.

ACC opener tonight against Clemson.

GO Heels!

Great game. Wayne MotherFucking Ellington for the win!

What a shot by Ellington...sick finish to the game.

Ellington reminds me a lot of Ray Allen when he was back at UConn.

i went up to the game last night with my dad........best game i have been to in a LONG time........btw, Clemson has a great arena for basketball.......the atmosphere was awesome

Nice, I'm jealous.