ACTIVE ROSTER:

Defence
Dmitri Kalinin, BUF: $0.50
Aaron Johnson, CBJ: $0.25
Tim Gleason, CAR: $1.50
Anton Volchenkov, OTT: $1.25
Kyle Cumiskey, COL: $0.25
Richie Regehr, CGY: $0.25
Shane Hnidy, ATL: $0.25
Andy Jones, NJ: $0.25
Kristian Tollefson, CBJ: $0.25
Derek Meech, DET: $0.25

Forwards
Tim Connolly, BUF: $2.25
Travis Zajac, NJ: $1.00
Brendan Morrow, DAL: $1.25
Joe Pavelski, SJ $0.25
Stephen Weiss, FLA: $2.00
Oleg Saprykin, PHO: $2.00
Valtteri Filppula, DET: $0.25
R- Marcel Goc, SJ: $1.50
Chad Larose, CAR: $0.50
Boyd Devereaux, TOR: $0.25
Mark Rycroft, COL: $0.25
Matt Ellison, PHI: $0.25
Alex Burrows, VAN: $0.50
R -Vladimir Orszagh, STL: $0.50

Goaltending
Philadelphia: $3.75
St. Louis: $0.75
Washington: $0.25

FARM ROSTER:

Defence
Michael Komisarek, MON: $1.50
Derrick Lapoint, FLA: $0.50
Alex Edler, VAN: $0.25
Jonas Junland, STL: $0.25
Alex Biega, BUF: $0.25

Forward
Hugh Jessiman, NYR: $2.00
Nicklas Backstrom, WAS: $2.00
Juraj Simek, VAN: $1.50
Francois Bouchard, WSH: $1.00
Blake Comeau, NYI: $0.25
Tomas Marcinko, NYI: $0.25
Tomas Zaborsky, NYR: $0.25

DRAFT PICKS & SALARY:

Current Salary: $22.50

2007/2008: $25.00
1st Round: None
2nd Round: Ravag, Greaseballs
3rd Round: Ingmen
4th Round: Rug Rats,
5th Round: Blackdraft, Big M's, Mustangs

2008/2009: $34.00
1st Round: Mustangs, Swackers
2nd Round: PKDealers, Swackers, Mustangs
3rd Round: Blackdraft, PKDealers, Ingmen, Swackers
4th round: Rug Rats, Swackers, Ingmen

2009/2010: $42.00
1st Round: Swackers, Mustangs, Blackdraft
2nd Round: Mustangs, Swackers
3rd Round: Red Ravens, Blackdraft, Ingmen, Swackers
4th Round: Blackdraft, Swackers

2010/2011: $60.00
1st Round: Mustangs, Blackdraft
2nd Round: Mustangs, Blackdraft
3rd Round: Blackdraft, Swackers
4th Round: Blackdraft

Average team's # of picks over next four years: 16 (4 Firsts, 4 Seconds)
My # of picks over next four years: 38 (8 Firsts, 9 Seconds)

Franchise players are in red.
Quality producers are in blue.
High upsides or potential sleepers/surprises are in green.
Reliable/average output are in purple.

For farm players colours represent my projections. No colour means I'm not really sure yet for farm players, and for roster players it means they likely won't amount to much. Some roster players (usually those recently called up), like Aaron Johnson, have colours that represent projections as well.

Blair Jones is a beast.

Stephen Weiss, FLA: $2.00
Oleg Saprykin, PHO: $2.00
Marcel Goc, SJ: $1.50

All draft by the Cheap Thieves.

I thought Goc would finally get his shot at 2nd line Centre with Cheech/Mikalek out, but then Pavelski steps in, **** lol. At least I got Pavelski though.

Saprykin has been a very pleasent surprise for me this season (had 1g1a tonight), and obviously I've got a fair bit banked on Weiss.

ewwwwww Hugh Jessiman. The Rangers taking the worst 1st rounder in the best 1st round that I've ever witnessed is still high comedy.

I think I'll do this do. Where should I send the royalty cheque?

Nate, fix your draft date years.

I got him for nothing, and at the time I don't think it was a bad move picking him up. It was either him or a 5th round draft pick or something, and at the time he had 4 points in 6 games to start the season in Hartford (of course he hasn't potted anything in the 11 games since lol...)

The Rangers admitted he was a project when they drafted him, and he still has the skills - it's just a matter of applying them. For his upside I thought it was better to take a shot at him then get a 5th.

Looks like he's a bust now more than I when I picked him up, but you never know (i.e. Robert Lang). Doesn't hurt to have him sit on the farm until I need the room. I know it's 95% certain he won't see the NHL, but considering the amount of late picks I have this year I'm not worried about losing one more.

Just finished another big deal. I'm overpaying for a certain player, but I'm hoping the gamble is worth it. If this player doesn't turn out I'll have given up a huge portion of my future.... the other side has agreed to everything, I'm just waiting on him to post it.

This trade will either be the corner-stone of my team or the faulty foundation everything crumbles because of.

If the trade has been agreed upon why don't you post it?

Who and what did you do???

to create anticipation.

Also it's not final until it's on the AHL boards, he said he wanted me to e-mail him back confirming the last offer, then he'd post it. So details will be released shortly... hopefully he posts soon as I'd like to get moving on another trade in the works lol.

Can't even say what team?

Blockbuster

To PKDealers:
Dawgs 1st Pick, 07/08
PKDealers 1st Pick, 08/09
$7.00 07/08
$7.00 08/09
Jame Sheppard, ml
Antti Miettenen, DAL

To Blackdraft:
Nicklas Backstrom, WAS
Jere Lehtinen, DAL

Let's hope Backstrom is everything I think he's going to be.

oh ya, and Backstrom's leading the SEL in scoring at age 19 (just turned two weeks ago).

Sorry man but that is a brutal trade unless thie NINETEEN YEAR old is the second coming of Crosby..

two first round picks $14 in cash..wow...

The belief that the younger the player the better is a misconception...This guy is a good prospect..but thats it...a prospect

It's not like Nate was going to use that $14 anyways...

two words.................


Doug Wickenheiser.





Not that I have issues with how any of you are trying to build teams........

However, I think this plan of your nate may be a little exessive.

1) what do you plan on doing with all these draft picks? - since you can only have 20 players on your farm.

2) if you are planning on trading many of these picks, do you realize that teams tend to give up far less in the offseason for picks?

3) if you call up some of your farm players, you will have to pay them, most are not quarter players and you have given up tons of cash over the next 4 years. Any players costing you $2 or $3 will severely eat into your cap.


I am sure you have plans and have thought about this, just wanted to throw in my 2 cents on my view from the outside.........

then again, what do I know, I have the worst goalies in the league (always seems to be the argument against anything I say)

He's also the projected #1 Center in Washington next year, which will mean Ovechkin on his LW and could mean Semin on his RW. If the projection holds true, obv.

I've been trying to wrestle him away from the 3rd Period Ninjas for about a week now, but I don't want to hedge the entire future of my team on a guy whose never played a single NHL game.

thats my whole point...there is very few amount of players that just step in and dominate the league..

Crosyb,Ovechski, Malkin.....Very few...there are hundreds of these so called prospects that either take 5 years to develop or they just bust ...

its very risky

Those are some fair criticisms, but to answer some of them:

1) I plan on trading a lot of those draft picks, like I have already. I have no more 1sts for this upcoming year, but that's fine with me, as I now have Backstrom, Weiss, Umberger, Eriksson, A. Johnson, and Zajac as a foundation to build upong thanks to trading picks.

I don't think everyone values draft picks the same, and I think I've done a good job of taking draft picks off people who undervalue them, and then trade them to people who value them more. Also, people definately value next year's picks way more than 2010/2011 picks, so picking them up to sit on them and turn around and trade them two years down the road is a good investment from my vantage point.

2) Cash is an issue, and I agree I've stretched myself very thin for next year... veyr very thin lol, cash is definately a huge concern. But that's what it took to get Backstrom, and you guys might think I'm crazy, but I think Backstrom is going to be somewhere between Radulov//Malkin and Crosby/Ovechkin in terms of skill and potential scoring ability. I've put a lot of time in on Swedish boards and whatnot, and I think the hype surrounding him is legitimate. If I'm wrong I'll look like an idiot, but I'm willling to take a shot when I'm still an expansion team... it's not like losing those two firsts really crippled me (although I did want to keep one this year), and I don't think Sheppard is going to turn into anything more than a decent 2nd line playmaking centre at best.

Cash the year after in 08/09 will be tight at $35, but not too tight, I'll still be able to pick or call up 3-4 more $2.00 players. Worst case scenario I have to trade a first or something for cash, which, with the amount I have, wouldn't be devastating to me.

It's a little risky, and in certain ways I've cornered myself, I agree, if I see a great trade opportunity with a guy for $5.50 I can't take it, which is a little disapointing. We'll see what happens though.

Here's how some of the big names did in the SEL during the lockout (a year in which scoring in higher was general due to the influx of North Americans):

WILLIAMS, Justin: 53GP, 14G, 19A, 33P
SEDIN, Henrik: 50GP, 15G, 25A, 40P
ZETTERBERG, Henrik (League Leader): 57GP, 25G, 33A, 58P
FORSBERG, Peter: 34GP, 13G, 26A, 39P

Backstrom this year: 27GP, 10G, 21A, 31P

He's pretty much untouchable, Adam. After trading away Jordan Staal last week, my only prospects right now are Backstrom and Rob Schremp. I'll need some cheap guys who I can only pay quarters to for the next few years who have the potential to be Tier 1's in the near future.

Semin is a left winger. The only time he and Ovecnkin play together is on the PP. Also, the major problem with Backstrom, a great player, is that he is more of a set up man than a scorer.

The other thing I can't figure is why you wanted to throw Lehtinen into the deal.

Backstrom is, and will be a great player, but I really do think that you gave up too much for him.

I'm well aware I overpaid for Backstrom. I'm okay with that, I'm willing to do that for a franchise player. Also, Backstrom's finishing skills are under-rated, while he'll definately be an assist guy with Ovechkin, I think he's going to surprise people with his goal numbers.

As for Lehtinen, it was an incentive for the deal for him. He got a younger player in Mietennen, who I didn't need anyway because I have Eriksson. Also Lehtinen I'll turn around an shop because he has a good track record and he's not that old yet, somebody in Serge's position (or Swackers, Dawgs etc.) will be interested in him.

OK FCHL'ers. The price has been set. If you want Backstrom from me, it'll cost you 2 1st rounders, a ton of cash, and 2 more players. I can pick up Jere Lehtinen and include him if you want.

:anxiously awaiting the offers:

pm sent.

hmmm, maybe it went to ML Poker. Try again!

'twas a joke


(can't tell if you knew that or not)

No ticker thread tonight, this forum dies on game night when DN isn't around lol. Anyway, I'll be sweating my game vs. Swacker, which doesn't look good as I'm short goaltending (actually, maybe that's a positive that Philly isn't playing), but if Pavelski stays hot and Zajac can actually score on an AHL night I might have a shot:

Blackdraft

1. Joe Pavelski, SJ, OT
2. Stephen Weiss, FLA
3. Travis Zajac, NJ
4. Oleg Saprykin, PHO
5. Jere Lehtinen, DAL
6. Marcel Goc, SJ

7. Jason York, BOS
8. Aaron Johnson, CBJ 0.5
9. Anton Volchenkov, OTT
10. Mike Weaver, LA

Empty -2.5

Swackers

1, Dany Heatley, OTT (OT)
2. Martin Straka, NYR
3. Paul Gaustad, BUF
4. Chris Gratton, FLA
5. Brendan Morrow, DAL
6. Mark Bell, SJ

7. Niklas Lidstrom, DET
8. Dan Boyle, TB
9. Dimitri Kalinin, BUF
10. Marek Malik, NYR

Columbus -0.5

*****************************************************************
Blackdraft: -2.0
Swackers: -0.5
*****************************************************************

Weiss is not playing.

what the hell? He didn't get scratched did he? TSN doesn't have him listed as injured.

He's listed as a scratch on Florida's roster on nhl.com.

wtf? wow that is bad news for my team if he's getting scratched.

edit: He is injured, apparantly some shoulder problem. phew.

It may be his shoulder acting up from that game a few nights ago where the glass shattered and he hit his shoulder on the stanction.

I just learned a new word: stanction

I'll take a draft pick.

I'll give you a 5th for another word.

okay

Blackdraft Trade to Ingmen:

Blackdraft 2nd Pick 07/08
Mustangs 4th Pick 07/08
Swackers 5th Pick 07/08

Ingmen Trade to Blackdraft:

Valtteri Filppula, DET (0.25)
Ingmen 3rd Pick 07/08

I had some interest in Filppula until Wayne called him up.

I don't mind it, I've got the room.... and at least I can use him in a few games if I'm desperate, he'll probably be up and down like they used Lebda last year.

12/16/06 Trade:

To Swackers:
Bob Sanguinetti, ml, NYR
Chris Simon, NYI

To Blackdraft:
Mike Komisarek, ml, MON
Tim Gleason, CAR
Swackers 3rd 08/09
Swackers 2nd, 3rd, 4th 09/10
Swackers 3rd 10/11
$2.50 07/08

This was tough letting go of Sangs, but I'm pretty happy with the returns here..... Tim Gleason is a proven D-Man in the NHL, and although he's having a slow year offensively this year, he did put up 20 points in his rookie campaign with the Kings, and he was almost (.85 PPG or so) a point per game player for the last two years of OHL... I'm hoping once he settles down a little more (he is only 23 after all) he'll start getting a lot more offensive responsibility, because he's definately shown he has it.... Potential : 40-45 point d-man

Komisarek is a "defence first" d-man, so at first he might seem a questionable pick-up, but he's already Montreal's (arguably) best defensive d-man, and probably #3 overall. As he fills into his projected #1/2 d-spot he'll hopefuly learn from guys like Souray and start seeing some regular PP time - he does have work to do, and it's quite possible he might only end up a 20-25 point guy in 2-3 years, but I think that's worst case scenario based on what he's shown this year in Montreal.... he has 8 points in 32 games (3g), which to be honest is more than I expected from him this year..... he'll never be a McCabe because his shot sucks, but he could turn into a nice assist guy with the high volumes of ice team he'll like be seeing. Potential: 30-40 (pushing it hard I think at 40 though) point d-man

The 5 draft picks and cash will also be very helpful.... I traded away too much cash earlier, especially with the Backstrom trade, so I need to get a litte bit back. Although 1/2 picks are important, I think there's a lot of value in the late rounders, and I'd much rather have 3,4,5 picks than a mid-late first rounder.