delasoul
Wednesday, November 22nd, 2006, 5:22 PM
Okay i like to mix up my game and limp in early position with AK or AQ but this river move by villian confuses me. With the turn making a flush and him betting into me why make this move on the river? Why not value bet and get paid. Haven't seem him play enough hands to see if he is capable of making this bluff or not? I probably should have re-raised the turn here to see where I was at.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
ConverterStack sizes:Hero: $31.20
UTG+1: $8.40
MP1: $19.50
MP2: $22.85
MP3: $10.45
CO: $7.55
Button: $30.45
SB: $20.65
BB: $28.40
Pre-flop: (
9 players) Hero is UTG with
Hero calls,
3 folds, MP3 calls,
2 folds, SB calls, BB checks.
Flop:

(
$1, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks,
Hero bets $1, MP3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.
Turn: 
(
$3, 2 players)
SB bets $2.25, Hero calls.
River: 
(
$7.5, 2 players)
SB is all-in $17.15,
Results:Villan???
CobaltBlue
Friday, November 24th, 2006, 1:26 PM
dela, you've got a pair on a 3-flush, straight-possible board. It's not even top pair by the river. You have to be right an inordinate amount of time to make this river call profitable. Basically, it's not worth it without a really really good read. If he's bluffing, you can wait for a better situation to pick him off.
Oh, and by 'mix up your play', I hope you mean that you're raising AK/AQ a majority of the time with the very occasional limp.
simo_8ball
Friday, November 24th, 2006, 3:02 PM
Don't bother with the whole 'mixing it up' thing here. Raise preflop.
Fold the river.
bdc30
Friday, November 24th, 2006, 4:20 PM
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Friday, November 24th, 2006, 3:02 PM)

Don't bother with the whole 'mixing it up' thing here. Raise preflop.
Fold the river.
Can I get an
AINEC??
Shimmering Wang
Friday, November 24th, 2006, 7:30 PM
QUOTE (delasoul @ Wednesday, November 22nd, 2006, 8:22 PM)

Brag post. BRAG POST. Brag? Brag!! Brag, brag. bragbragbrag.... BRAG!! POST!!
I call. Looks like homeboy was bluffing. Perfectly played, sir. No other way to stack him here, right?
Wang
ChrisRichey
Saturday, November 25th, 2006, 12:23 AM
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Friday, November 24th, 2006, 4:20 PM)

Can I get an AINEC??
Yes, yes you can.
1.) Raise pf.
2.) I would probably raise the turn here as well.
3.) Fold the river.
CobaltBlue
Saturday, November 25th, 2006, 9:20 PM
QUOTE (Shimmering Wang @ Friday, November 24th, 2006, 9:30 PM)

I call. Looks like homeboy was bluffing. Perfectly played, sir. No other way to stack him here, right?
Wang

You really gotta hang out in strat more.
nomad_monad
Sunday, November 26th, 2006, 10:42 AM
raise the turn. if he doesn't have the str8 or flush, sometimes he's donking into you with air, but more often he's on some sort of semibluff. thus, raising does more here than just buy you info (which is good, but make sure there are other benefits). it also protects your hand when you're ahead, and because often he's got enough outs, you're ok with shutting out a bluffing hand. it also often buys you a cheaper showdown.
you could very well be crushed here, but unless you've done this before in the past (raising a donkbet against a scare card), i do this a lot for image reasons. i don't want to make it easy for my opponents to outplay me when i have position. it puts more pressure on them to actually have a hand if they want to do this, or resort to fancier and riskier attempts to represent strength, like c/r'ing. but the flipside of this is that you have to bet your draws in position more often, otherwise the move becomes very transparent.
Shimmering Wang
Sunday, November 26th, 2006, 10:55 AM
QUOTE (CobaltBlue @ Sunday, November 26th, 2006, 12:20 AM)


You really gotta hang out in strat more.
I like it when people think I'm funny. I like it even more when YOU think I'm funny, you cute
sonofabitch.
I'm thinking of starting a H/U Smasharoo-style project. Any thoughts?
Wang
CobaltBlue
Sunday, November 26th, 2006, 10:47 PM
QUOTE (Shimmering Wang @ Sunday, November 26th, 2006, 12:55 PM)

I'm thinking of starting a H/U Smasharoo-style project. Any thoughts?
As long as it contains that Wangish wit of yours.