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ROGUE06
Basically I flop 3 pair, hit a boat on the turn, and have the nuts aslong as one of the two opponents doesn't have both of the remaining aces, thus making me draw dead. Bad play? to call raise on flop? turn?

PokerStars Game #7084289484: Tournament #35678688, $10+$1 Omaha Pot Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/11/19 - 02:33:36 (ET)
Table '35678688 10' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: OldGlassEye2 (1720 in chips)
Seat 2: Gabbergal (1440 in chips)
Seat 3: doubledosed (520 in chips)
Seat 4: ECF22181 (1480 in chips)
Seat 5: ROGUE06 (1460 in chips)
Seat 6: Washburn32 (1140 in chips)
Seat 7: allinanimal (2760 in chips)
Seat 8: dieselman69 (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: WinsomeSmile (1500 in chips)
ECF22181: posts small blind 10
ROGUE06: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ROGUE06 [4d Ah 9h Js]
Washburn32: calls 20
allinanimal: folds
dieselman69: calls 20
WinsomeSmile: folds
OldGlassEye2: calls 20
Gabbergal: calls 20
doubledosed: folds
ECF22181: calls 10
ROGUE06: checks
*** FLOP *** [4s 9c As]
ECF22181: checks
ROGUE06: checks
Washburn32: bets 120
dieselman69: folds
OldGlassEye2: raises 230 to 350
Gabbergal: folds
ECF22181: folds
ROGUE06: calls 350
Washburn32: calls 230
*** TURN *** [4s 9c As] [9d]
ROGUE06: checks
Washburn32: bets 770 and is all-in
OldGlassEye2: calls 770
ROGUE06: raises 320 to 1090 and is all-in
OldGlassEye2: calls 320
*** RIVER *** [4s 9c As 9d] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ROGUE06: shows [4d Ah 9h Js] (a full house, Nines full of Aces)
OldGlassEye2: shows [Ad Ac Jh 8s] (a full house, Aces full of Nines)
OldGlassEye2 collected 640 from side pot
Washburn32: shows [Qh Ks Qs 6d] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
OldGlassEye2 collected 3480 from main pot
doubledosed said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4120 Main pot 3480. Side pot 640. | Rake 0
Board [4s 9c As 9d 2h]
Seat 1: OldGlassEye2 showed [Ad Ac Jh 8s] and won (4120) with a full house, Aces full of Nines
Seat 2: Gabbergal folded on the Flop
Seat 3: doubledosed (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ECF22181 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: ROGUE06 (big blind) showed [4d Ah 9h Js] and lost with a full house, Nines full of Aces
Seat 6: Washburn32 showed [Qh Ks Qs 6d] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 7: allinanimal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dieselman69 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: WinsomeSmile folded before Flop (didn't bet)
dingas
With a bet and raise in front of you, I think you can go ahead and fold the flop.
BudBundy
In paired boards if you are holding one of the pairing cards and there are two more in the pot with aggression its a big possibility that one of them has the higher full.

But this is not a cash game i don't know much about tournies.Maybe you shouldn't risk going out at this hand cus you can't just call,get the information,rebuy and take your money back.
Whiskey16
It's a tough spot. I think without a preflop raise, I might not suspect AAxx either, since most people will overplay AA in these types of tourneys.

I think with the aggression by the two people preflop, folding the flop is OK, since you're likely behind a set.

Once you hit, and there's two people all in and you're holding the second nuts, I don't know if I fold there. There's obviously bad play, as evidenced by the guy holding QQ and still firing/calling that board.
JacKingOff_suit
very easy fold on the flop.
ROGUE06
Thanks for the imput guys. I consider myself an above average omaha player but this isn't my primary game soo these comments are very helpful. I too never expected the one player to have AAxx in this hand since there was no raise preflop and only a smooth call on the flop. And like Whiskey said, many players especially in a low limit PLO tourney tend to completely overplay AAxx.
benhoug
QUOTE (JacKingOff_suit @ Monday, November 20th, 2006, 12:45 PM) *
very easy fold on the flop.

I even like a raise on the flop much more than a call. I still prefer folding, but cold-calling is the worst option.
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