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socalpoker_j
Fans of the sweet science, this is a highly anticipated fight in the boxing world. It's a great way for Oscar to go out, fighting the very best. It should make for a great boxing match if De la Hoya comes into the fight in peak condition, and Mayweather's hand isn't hurt. Anyways just getting some discussion going on who you have to win this fight, why, etc.
trader1499
QUOTE (socalpoker_j @ Thursday, November 16th, 2006, 7:35 PM) *
Fans of the sweet science, this is a highly anticipated fight in the boxing world. It's a great way for Oscar to go out, fighting the very best. It should make for a great boxing match if De la Hoya comes into the fight in peak condition, and Mayweather's hand isn't hurt. Anyways just getting some discussion going on who you have to win this fight, why, etc.
I'm a fan of both fighters, more of floyd since we come from same city and gym, but after seeing pretty much all of their fights, I just don't know if floyd can handle oscars experience, size and power. Really I'm up in the air on this one, my heart says floyd, mind says oscar, but i like both and never wanted this fight to happen in the first place. First time i'm speechless as to who I want to win. I may just hibernate til next may so I don't have to wait.
CaneBrain
QUOTE (trader1499 @ Sunday, November 26th, 2006, 4:16 PM) *
I'm a fan of both fighters, more of floyd since we come from same city and gym, but after seeing pretty much all of their fights, I just don't know if floyd can handle oscars experience, size and power. Really I'm up in the air on this one, my heart says floyd, mind says oscar, but i like both and never wanted this fight to happen in the first place. First time i'm speechless as to who I want to win. I may just hibernate til next may so I don't have to wait.



REally? I anticipate a Meriweather blowout. I dont think Oscar has ever been as good as Floyd at any point in his career.

Guess we shall see.
ol'number7
current odds:

May 5, 2007 - Mayweather Jr vs De La Hoya
5/5/2007 10:00 PM Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Oscar De La Hoya
1101 Floyd Mayweather Jr -240
1102 Oscar De La Hoya +200
5/5/2007 10:00 PM Mayweather Jr vs De La Hoya total rounds
1103 Over 11½ rounds -250
1104 Under 11½ rounds +210

I think the line is about perfect, couldn't bet either side at this point. As it gets closer, I'll probably be buying this one on ppv, very intriguing fight
fckthis
Has the potential to be a classic. I really have no idea who's going to take it, but the best bet is Mayweather UD.
ol'number7
from ESPN.com:

De La Hoya-Mayweather is expected to generate the largest live gate in Nevada history. The 1999 heavyweight championship rematch between Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield holds the current record with ticket sales totaling $16,830,300.

The gate for De La Hoya-Mayweather could exceed $18 million because promoters have priced the tickets in the stratosphere. Ringside seats are $2,000; other tickets are priced at $1,500, $1,000, $750 and $350. By contrast, a ringside ticket for the highly anticipated Manny Pacquiao-Erik Morales rubber match at Las Vegas' Thomas & Mack Center cost just $500.

The De La Hoya-Mayweather tickets are not on sale yet, but the date will be announced soon, Golden Boy said.

"This fight will be unlike any fight anyone has ever seen," said Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer. "The promotion of this fight, from the initial press conference to fight night, also will be unprecedented in its scope. We have no doubt this will be the biggest boxing event of all time and one that will go down in the history books as such."

"This is what boxing is all about, and fighting Floyd Mayweather is the type of fight that truly gets me motivated to go through a hard training camp and make the sacrifices I have to make to be the best," De La Hoya said. "We've talked about it, the press and the fans have asked for it, and now we're going to put it all on the line and fight. I can't wait for May 5."

Mayweather (37-0, 24 KOs), won the welterweight title on a dominant decision victory against Carlos Baldomir on Nov. 4 and is now moving up in weight to challenge De La Hoya.

"I'm excited to get this opportunity to once again show why I'm pound-for-pound the best in the world and to add another title to my collection,"Mayweather said. "I respect everything Oscar has accomplished in this sport, but this time he's in over his head."




Good stuff -- looking forward to it 5 months in advance
TB17
Taking bets if someone wants to bet on the Golden Boy smile.gif
fryer98
Anyone watch "De La Hoya/Mayweather 24/7" this past Sunday night?
TB17
QUOTE (fryer98 @ Friday, April 20th, 2007, 11:57 AM) *
Anyone watch "De La Hoya/Mayweather 24/7" this past Sunday night?


I saw half of it then fell asleep
fryer98
QUOTE (TB17 @ Friday, April 20th, 2007, 6:03 PM) *
I saw half of it then fell asleep

It wasn't great, but I'm gonna continue to watch it.

Interesting to see how each of them go about their training, the people they surround themselfs with, and the lives they live, IMO.
Rodney21a
QUOTE (socalpoker_j @ Thursday, November 16th, 2006, 7:35 PM) *
Fans of the sweet science, this is a highly anticipated fight in the boxing world. It's a great way for Oscar to go out, fighting the very best. It should make for a great boxing match if De la Hoya comes into the fight in peak condition, and Mayweather's hand isn't hurt. Anyways just getting some discussion going on who you have to win this fight, why, etc.



I think it's great that the boxing has been dominated by the Lightweights to the Middleweight division. I've long thought that these divisions offered the best of boxing. Don't get me wrong, when there is a dominant GOOD heavyweight champ its good for everybody. I just think that division has been ruined irreparably. Those guys are WAY to big to be considered anything other than a side show.

De La Hoya Maywether has the potential to be one of the classics of the division and it all depends on if Mayweather comes to fight or win that night. I could easily see Floyd giving us a defensive grab move and poke fight. Although, by the way he is talking, one would think he is coming in the ring with bad intentions. Like they say, everybody has a "Game Plan" until they get HIT. I can see Floyd coming to fight and then doing the run-n-grab when De La Hoya rocks him with a left hook. We will see come May fifth. I am enjoying the 24/7 show.
Chris E
I'm not really a fan of either but I'm excited about this fight just because I know it will be great. I'll take Oscar by TKO, he is the biggest, strongest fighter that Floyd has ever faced, I think Oscar will rough Flloyd up on the inside then land his combinations.
Rodney21a
The Second Episode of 24/7.


This a very interesting look into the training camps and personalities of these two men. I wonder if Freddie Roach knew that it was Roger Mayweather calling in to him on what appeared to be a radio show. The whole return of the father, Mayweather Sr, to his prodigal son is turning into an interesting dynamic of the fight and show. For those of you who don't know the Mayweathers are a boxing family. Roger is a two time world champ and is his current trainer. He is the second oldest of the three brothers and he lost his title in a brutal fight with Cesar Chavez in 89'. The youngest, Jeff, was also a title holder. Sr was a good boxer but never made it to a title fight and was sent to prison for a time. I guess that is why there is so much animosity between him and his son. The last thing any fighter needs in his camp is distraction and I couldn't imagine any bigger distraction than this three way power struggle.


Oscar is coming off as a professional and family man, almost to perfect. I wonder, since he is the owner of the fight and the show essentially, if this is contrived on his part; it seems genuine. I think its a huge advantage for Oscar to be able to spar with Sugar Shane. Think about it. Who does Floyd Jr have that can give him that kind of test on a daily basis in his camp? Fity cent aka Curtis?


My view is still the same. Expect a De La Hoya victory unless Floyd Jr. goes into the grab and jab mode like he did against Carlos Manuel Baldomir.
socalpoker_j
De La Hoya, FTW. While what Mayweather may be portraying on 24/7 is "real", I'm put off by his big mouth, bling-that, greatest-ever attitude. It will be a pleasure to see him finally fight someone that will put him to the test. De la Hoya has always been a class act in/out of the ring and I'm hoping (optimistically) that he shuts Mayweather up.
Rodney21a
QUOTE (socalpoker_j @ Friday, May 4th, 2007, 1:06 PM) *
De La Hoya, FTW. While what Mayweather may be portraying on 24/7 is "real", I'm put off by his big mouth, bling-that, greatest-ever attitude. It will be a pleasure to see him finally fight someone that will put him to the test. De la Hoya has always been a class act in/out of the ring and I'm hoping (optimistically) that he shuts Mayweather up.



Twelve hours to go, I can hardly wait. I'm prepping the food and getting the grill ready for tonight.
mattb5
what time does the fight start tonight?? i have to be at work til 11pm eastern time but my buddy wants to order it ppv and i said i would split it with him, but i dont want to miss anything. i know the actual ppv starts at like 9 45 pm est, any ideas on the actual main event starting time?
Canuckickstan
QUOTE (mattb5 @ Saturday, May 5th, 2007, 4:28 PM) *
what time does the fight start tonight?? i have to be at work til 11pm eastern time but my buddy wants to order it ppv and i said i would split it with him, but i dont want to miss anything. i know the actual ppv starts at like 9 45 pm est, any ideas on the actual main event starting time?



What he said. I get it for free on my FTA dish !!
TB17
Lets go Floyd
7upncider
i just laid 50 on the golden boy. getting 8-1odds from the bar owner here in the town i live in.
Loismustdie
What a lousy fight. Mayweather basically did the opposite of kicking someones ***. I guess if I walked up to somebody in a bar, and hit them in the face, and then ran away, round and round in circles, until I found just the right time to dart in again and throw one shot, and then run around some more- what a complete dog. he talked alot of **** to basically fight like he was afraid of De La Hoya, and then had the nerve to say that he gave the public what they wanted, and that he was going to retire because he had nothing left to prove. Really? You just spent a half an hour running away from an ageing fighter. You didn't prove ****. It's alright, though, it's time you went and made shitty rap album anyway.
Poppy_Hillis
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Saturday, May 5th, 2007, 9:59 PM) *
What a lousy fight. Mayweather basically did the opposite of kicking someones ***. I guess if I walked up to somebody in a bar, and hit them in the face, and then ran away, round and round in circles, until I found just the right time to dart in again and throw one shot, and then run around some more- what a complete dog. he talked alot of **** to basically fight like he was afraid of De La Hoya, and then had the nerve to say that he gave the public what they wanted, and that he was going to retire because he had nothing left to prove. Really? You just spent a half an hour running away from an ageing fighter. You didn't prove ****. It's alright, though, it's time you went and made shitty rap album anyway.

There's more to boxing than kicking people's ***.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Saturday, May 5th, 2007, 8:59 PM) *
What a lousy fight. Mayweather basically did the opposite of kicking someones ***. I guess if I walked up to somebody in a bar, and hit them in the face, and then ran away, round and round in circles, until I found just the right time to dart in again and throw one shot, and then run around some more- what a complete dog. he talked alot of **** to basically fight like he was afraid of De La Hoya, and then had the nerve to say that he gave the public what they wanted, and that he was going to retire because he had nothing left to prove. Really? You just spent a half an hour running away from an ageing fighter. You didn't prove ****. It's alright, though, it's time you went and made shitty rap album anyway.



This is what MMA and the Heavyweight division of boxing have produced... how anyone could watch this fight and say that FMJr didn't dominate it doesn't understand the sport. I thought this was a tremendous fight, and FMjr is just the superior technical fighter... too fast for Oscar... great fight.
Loismustdie
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Sunday, May 6th, 2007, 1:33 AM) *
This is what MMA and the Heavyweight division of boxing have produced... how anyone could watch this fight and say that FMJr didn't dominate it doesn't understand the sport. I thought this was a tremendous fight, and FMjr is just the superior technical fighter... too fast for Oscar... great fight.




I am a huge boxing fan, and completely understand what you are saying, except Mayweather wasn't dominant in any sense of the word. He never even hurt him. If it wasn't for Oscar going after him, they may never have hit each other. It was dissapointing all around.
Dukefanjohn
"Ringside punching stats heavily favored Mayweather, crediting him with landing 207 of 481 punches to 122 of 587 for De La Hoya. Mayweather also landed more power punches than De La Hoya, outscoring him 138-82." - AP

i didnt see the fight, and from what I have read, it sounds like it was pretty dull.

lets see FMj 481/12=40 punches per rd
DLH 587/12=49 punches per rd

Way to bring it!! glad I didnt waste my money on this.
Rodney21a
QUOTE (socalpoker_j @ Thursday, November 16th, 2006, 7:35 PM) *
Fans of the sweet science, this is a highly anticipated fight in the boxing world. It's a great way for Oscar to go out, fighting the very best. It should make for a great boxing match if De la Hoya comes into the fight in peak condition, and Mayweather's hand isn't hurt. Anyways just getting some discussion going on who you have to win this fight, why, etc.



Looks to me that De La Hoya lost this fight when he chose Freddie Roach Over FLoyd Sr. When your business partner, Hopkins, has to stand up and yell at you to motivate you then your trainer isn't doing a large part of his job. I still remember how instrumental Teddy Atlas was in the Holyfield/Moore fight. "Your doing just enough to keep him off you, LISTEN you need to throw punches out there,......."

This is a big part of a trainers responsibility, motivating your fighter to do what was working in the fight. At no point did Freddy convey the level of urgency needed after the 8th round. When it comes down to it, if De La Hoya had pressed his jab from that round on, he would have easily accumulated the points to win. He may have even caught Floyed with a follow up right/left hook combination. I think it was telling to see Floyd Sr, Oscar, and Oscars brother conversing after the fight and Freddy Roach was no where to be seen.

When it comes down to it there is a reason FIGHTERS like Holyfield, De La Hoya, Barrera, and others make the big paydays almost every fight; they fight. "Boxers" like Mayweather exist only to survive a fight and posses such overwhelming speed they win. He should RETIRE because, as a fight fan, I wouldn't pay to see him fight a guy like Coto. I already know he will grab and poke his way to a boring victory like he did last night.
Loismustdie
QUOTE (Rodney21a @ Sunday, May 6th, 2007, 2:41 PM) *
Looks to me that De La Hoya lost this fight when he chose Freddie Roach Over FLoyd Sr. When your business partner, Hopkins, has to stand up and yell at you to motivate you then your trainer isn't doing a large part of his job. I still remember how instrumental Teddy Atlas was in the Holyfield/Moore fight. "Your doing just enough to keep him off you, LISTEN you need to throw punches out there,......."

This is a big part of a trainers responsibility, motivating your fighter to do what was working in the fight. At no point did Freddy convey the level of urgency needed after the 8th round. When it comes down to it, if De La Hoya had pressed his jab from that round on, he would have easily accumulated the points to win. He may have even caught Floyed with a follow up right/left hook combination. I think it was telling to see Floyd Sr, Oscar, and Oscars brother conversing after the fight and Freddy Roach was no where to be seen.

When it comes down to it there is a reason FIGHTERS like Holyfield, De La Hoya, Barrera, and others make the big paydays almost every fight; they fight. "Boxers" like Mayweather exist only to survive a fight and posses such overwhelming speed they win. He should RETIRE because, as a fight fan, I wouldn't pay to see him fight a guy like Coto. I already know he will grab and poke his way to a boring victory like he did last night.



You have got to love the story with Roach,though.

After contemplating this for a day I have come to this conclusion- this fight was the biggest scam ever. The reality show- it was nothing but smoke and mirrors for the money, and that is it. So much of boxing is about the big payday it is pathetic, but this was lower than usual. I really think the whole thing, Floyds hatred, Oscars playing the good guy, it was all bullshit and they strung us along for the ride.
Rodney21a
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Monday, May 7th, 2007, 12:43 AM) *
You have got to love the story with Roach,though.

After contemplating this for a day I have come to this conclusion- this fight was the biggest scam ever. The reality show- it was nothing but smoke and mirrors for the money, and that is it. So much of boxing is about the big payday it is pathetic, but this was lower than usual. I really think the whole thing, Floyds hatred, Oscars playing the good guy, it was all bullshit and they strung us along for the ride.



Boxing Promoters are the biggest con artist that ever lived. Every last one of them. So, I believe you have hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial head. Still. Floyd didn't fight and could have put forth a better account for himself and I won't pay to watch him in the Future.
Rodney21a
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Monday, May 7th, 2007, 12:43 AM) *
You have got to love the story with Roach,though.

After contemplating this for a day I have come to this conclusion- this fight was the biggest scam ever. The reality show- it was nothing but smoke and mirrors for the money, and that is it. So much of boxing is about the big payday it is pathetic, but this was lower than usual. I really think the whole thing, Floyds hatred, Oscars playing the good guy, it was all bullshit and they strung us along for the ride.

De La Hoya-Mayweather Does 2.15 Million Buys Recommend this page Printable version



NEW YORK -- HBO Sports reported today that 2.15 million pay-per-view buys and $120 million in pay-per-view revenue was generated from last Saturday’s mega fight showdown featuring Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. The fight was promoted by Golden Boy Promotions in association with MGM Grand Hotel & Casino.

In a fight that set the all-time pay-per-view record by eclipsing the previous mark by a sizable margin of 160,000 buys as well as establishing a new mark for revenue from a pay-per-view telecast, Mayweather scored a split decision victory and captured De La Hoya’s junior middleweight title. The showdown, which featured boxing’s two biggest attractions, produced 1,225,000 buys from cable systems and 925,000 buys from satellite homes throughout the 50 states.

“De La Hoya vs. Mayweather was a record-setting event from the moment the fight was announced,” said Ross Greenburg, President of HBO Sports. “We are delighted that sports fans recognized the greatness of these two future Hall of Famers and tuned in for their showdown. It’s satisfying to see that boxing still connects with sports fans throughout the country and we are determined to continue to present high-profile fights that capture the public’s imagination.”

Mayweather, regarded as the sport’s pound-for-pound king, now possesses a spotless 38-0 record. The 30-year-old Grand Rapids, Michigan native now lives in Las Vegas.

De La Hoya, 34, who has won titles in six weight classes and is the industry’s all-time top pay-per-view performer, has now participated in each of the top six non-heavyweight pay-per view events in history -- including the industry record-setting 2.15 million buys vs. Mayweather; the 1.4 million buys for the Felix Trinidad fight in Sept. 1999; one million buys for the matchup with Bernard Hopkins in September 2004; the Sept. 2003 rematch with Shane Mosley, which generated 950,000 buys; and the Sept. 2002 showdown with Fernando Vargas and the May 2006 encounter with Ricardo Mayorga, both of which registered 935,000 buys.

The De La Hoya vs. Mayweather junior middleweight championship fight will be replayed this Saturday night, May 12 at 10:00 p.m. ET/ PT & 9:00 p.m CT on HBO.

The rebroadcast will include a studio show hosted by Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant with new interviews of Mayweather and De La Hoya, plus highlights from the groundbreaking “De La Hoya/Mayweather 24/7” reality series.

The program will be replayed on HBO2 Sunday, May 13 at 8:00 a.m. and 5:30 p.m. and Tuesday, May 15 at 11:30 p.m. Both times are ET/PT.



Yep. They both laughed all the way to the bank. Still wont ever pay again to see Mayweather fight....ANYBODY.
BWToth
skippity bop
DoinSublime
After last nights fight, I just watched this fight again, and you just can't tell me that Floyd won. Landed a higher % of 'crisp' punches while throwing less? They didn't affect De La Hoya 'one bit'. Mayweather looked beat up, was on his heels the whole fight, and De La Hoya looked absolutely fine at the end of the fight. I don't know, I think De La Hoya said it best himself:

"You have to beat the champion. He did not beat the champion. If I did not pursue him, there was no fight."

I understand the technical aspects of it, but Floyd just didn't beat De La Hoya imho.
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