Did anyone catch that little 'conversation' between Michael Hall and Jon Lithgow afterwards?

I found it really annoying.

You mean when Trinity was on the table or was there a little "thing", post-credits?

There was a little "thing" post-credits, with the actors talking about the ending and how great the writers are. It was weird.

As much as I like the show, I hate it when people are self-congratulatory. Also, I'll take the middle ground about the writing: I don't hate, but I don't love it either...

LOST, for example, is (to me) pretty awesome scriptitude. Dexter is generally a B-, sometimes rising to an A- (seldom)

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Yeah, Lithgow was awesome in many ways, but he didn't write the show

I think you guys missed what they were doing with the oil cap.

Dexter figured out where Trinity was going because he found the receipt. He then went to the repair shop and remove the oil cap. (which wouldn't disable the car, but whatever)

He then waited for Trinity to pick up the car and followed him until the car broke down.




I didn't mind it because the two actors talking were the only two good actors on the show.

My friend swears to me Dexter was in the trunk of the car the whole time and wasn't following him bc he was in the middle of nowhere when Dexter got him but I wasn't sure. Not that it matters in the long run. I like the way this will develop for next season though.

Yes...I think Dex took the oil cap and got in the trunk just before Trinity got there to pick up the 'Stang

It was certainly unexplained and left all of us in the same state of 'wtf? how did Dexter get there?'.

Most likely an editing decision forced by trying to get too much into the finale.

So if Dexter was in the trunk, he has to then drive Trinity's car with Trinity in the back seat/trunk to where he kills him. Then takes the car to the docks to dump him? I mean I guess that's the only explanation if he was in the trunk.

This. Which leads me to wonder why they didn't just have an extended finale. Give that shit an extra 15 minutes! Come on! Curb Your Enthusiasm, for one, had a randomly extended finale this season. Or they could have just omitted the whole Laguerta and whatshisname romance that everybody hated, and saved about an hour on the whole season for more serial killing.

I'm working through the season now, and am at episode 6 (I think). I'm annoyed at the show and myself for noticing a scientific error, either by the writers or the characters (though I'm not sure at the moment why they would purposefully write in Masuka and Dexter screwing up). Just posting this in case it comes up again later, so I can give myself an "I told you so."

I told you so. Silly writers, mitochondrial DNA is inherited from the mother. Who would know to write "mitochondrial DNA" instead of just "DNA" into the episode without knowing that it wouldn't be a way to connect a woman to her father? UNREALISTIC!

I can't decide what I thought about the ending. I did really appreciate the buildup...my heart was pounding when Dexter was in the house, since I figured something had to be coming. I don't know...I liked Rita enough not to enjoy the thought of her getting held in the tub and sliced up by that guy. I think that the good grandparents must have been introduced because that's where Rita's two kids will end up going. I'd be very surprised if they were kept on the show. I guess he'd have to get a nanny for the baby.

I hope that they can figure out a way to have Quinn suspicious of Dexter next season without making it too much like the Doakes situation.

my two dads

Wait, wasn't that what connected Trinity to his mother's ashes? I remember knowing it was his mother from that line. Are you saying they tried to connect his daughter to him with mito dna? I don't remember that.

Unless I misunderstood, when they connected the reporter to him it was via the ashes...at that point there was no other evidence. Yet she wouldn't have had the same mito dna as the ashes.

I still think Pauly's underrated.

Edit: This was supposed to go in the Jersey Shore thread...but it's true, so I'm leaving it as is.

it wasn't the ashes, which were the sisters - it was lithgow using his saliva to make the ashmark

I know, but they never mentioned anything but mito dna in making the connections. I guess it's supposed to be assumed that the mito dna matched him to his sister, but just regular dna from the saliva is what matched him to the daughter.

I really liked that I didn't see Rita's getting the slice coming. I was actually quite surprised since I had ruled out trinity messing with Dex's family. They got me which is awesome.

One thing that bugged me about the finale was the shot where they were digging up a boy from under a concrete patio at one of the church built homes. Everything about the scene was so so so so bad. The beginning overhead shot showing the props was completely off. The dimensions of the dug out hole was completely wrong including how far they excavated before opening the bag. Masouka jumping into the hole without a respirator or gloves and then the way he cut into the bag and the knife he used was very annoying. This scene was incredibly expensive to shoot and didn't do very much to move the story along. I gave up on this show being anything but below average after season 1 which somehow lets me enjoy it more.

I would have loved an entire episode dealing with the logistics of Dexter returning the kid to his family after he foiled Trinity's attempted murder. Basically just an hour of Dexter doing the really difficult things that keeps him out of the hoosegow. Everything from Dexter looking around the property to make sure Trinity fled to Dexter wiping his cement finger prints off the boys throat. Does Dex clean the boy off? Does he need to be re-sedated? Where and how does he leave him so as to not get spotted by any witnesses? How does he keep his car clean during the transportation? Does Dex clean up the bomb shelter location in any way just in case of some crime scene crew gets involved somehow? You get the idea. This is the type of show I want but will never happen with the current writers and executive producers. It's not surprising people are questioning whether Dexter was following Trinity in his own vehicle vs being in the trunk. Neither are plausible but either way kind of works.

annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd I'll be watching next season.


Oh, and the first two web-episodes are totally worth watching.

Below average compared to what?

Compared to what my expectations were when learning Dexter was being made into a series. I somehow lumped Showtime produced shows in with the writing and production quality HBO brings to the table. Weeds started out really strong which gave me false hope for Dexter.

"it's not TV. it's HBO." means that it's better than TV

"it's not HBO. it's showtime" means that it's not as good as HBO

Hey you two with the logic, suck it!


random: I was disappointed they let the actress playing Rita get implants. It goes against my perception of her character and completely ruined her chest. Screw fake tits, ya I said it.

If he was in the trunk, how would be get out without Trinity knowing? Was the latch magic? How is it implausible that he was following him in his car, like he had been for the last several episodes?

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The road behind him was really foggy.

So is the road ahead.

Oooooooh.

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Riding in the trunk doesn't work. There were a lot of people in the repair lot which would make it hard for Dexter to sabotage the car and get into the trunk unnoticed. There's no way Dexter could hold the trunk lid closed. The paint job guy and Trinity would instantly see the difference between a closed trunk and one that's almost closed when Trinity is picking up the car. Holding a trunk lid closed for hours(?) going over bumps and turns is ridiculous. I think the bump leaving the body shop would have instantly given him away.

I don't know the trunk latch mechanism on Ford Mustangs but I'm assuming the trunk can't be opened from the inside very easily. When Trinity stops, Dexter has to open the trunk without making any sound. This is a deserted patch of road and any noise would be noticed.

Following doesn't work. Dexter can't risk losing Trinity and can't risk a high speed chase if spotted. It's really hard to follow another car at night in the fog without being detected. Dexter would have to follow closely enough to follow Trinity's lights. Even though he would be running without headlights, his own brake lights would give him away when they stopped. The noise from stopping and getting out of his vehicle would tip Trinity off.

Eh, whatever. I was more annoyed with the exhumation scene than anything else in the season finale.

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Aww poor Michael, I hope his recovery will be swift and complete.

GL with the recovery process, Michael! (as if he's going to read it here lol)

lol!

Well we had Hall and Lithgow both win at the Golden Globes last night

No hair

That picture makes me really sad for multiple reasons.

Info about season 5 follows, don't read if you haven't seen all of season 4:


NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Showtime has renewed Dexter for a fifth season, which is set to premiere September 26, 2010. Julia Stiles will guest star in 10 episodes as a new woman in Dexter's life.

NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's horrible, horrible news. She has a knack for destroying any scenes she's a part of. Hopefully her involvement won't completely ruin the show.

Man, that ending of season 4 was intense. It still makes me kind of sad to think about...apparently I got pretty sucked into Rita's character.

ugh I hated Rita. whoever this new character is she can't be half as bad as rita.

I'm with you. I liked Rita.

I wouldn't say I loved her, but I definitely wasn't happy about the thought of her getting slowly murdered in a bathtub with John Lithgow.

Trust me, the new character will be so bad (because of Stiles), you'll be missing Rita during the first episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-HD2xXo-lw

Thank you.

Lithgow was so great. It's going to be terribly hard to top it.

Of course, that's what I thought about the Ice Truck killer and Doakes. Come to think about it, I'm still sad Doakes is gone.



SPOILER ALERT!

Just finished Season 4....holy shit dude. I watch a good bit of TV and I pride myself on generally seeing what's going to happen but I seriously was shocked at that ending. Can't wait for September 26th.


If you aren't caught up on Dexter do not click these links!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUbCMbW-BRE - Season 5 Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNBj3LFvmWI&list=SL - Season 5 Promo

This first episode of the new year just didn't do it for me.

I'm not sure but it just seemed like everybody's reaction to Rita getting killed was not real to me.

I thought it was pretty good.

Loved when Dexter told the kids about their mom, with the disney hat on. "I'm sorry for your loss....?"

Quinn looks funny, did he lose weight?

It was an ok episode...not bad, not great.



That's pretty tough to pull off, so I can forgive the imperfection of the rections. I enjoyed Deb's confusion about Dexter's lack of emotion over the whole thing.



Definitely. His face is now just a series of awkward angles.