Maybe you're not caught up yet. There's a scene where she and Dexter are in the parking lot where Lundy expired and she starts trying to cry. Simply awful.

I actually thought that was her best acting ever, her mannerisms seemed very realistic.

I even thought that the way she was lying on the ground was poorly done

i like deb

I thought her crying was very realistic, it wasn't acting-crying where it's still kinda flattering and composed, it was real, ugly crying. I was impressed.

The rest of her acting, though, is horrible. Especially the part where she confronted the woman in the jail cell and was being all 'tough'. How are we supposed to believe she's so aggressive when she is so scrawny she looks like she'd break in half in a strong breeze?

Her pose lying on the floor after she'd been shot was funny because it was like she and Lundy were synchronised. I don't know if it was deliberate, but them lying in the same pose symmetrically just looked ridiculous and implausible:

Over the last couple weeks we have watched every episode of Dexter from the very beginning. Finally up to date.

So far I rank the seasons 1, 4, 2, 3. ( #1, Ice truck killer was great, #4, it's nice to have an other good serial killer in Trinity, #2, how ****ing annoying was Lila, and did Doakes have to always be angry? #3, the whole Miguel thing was just silly )

I loved Doakes. I liked him so much, that I didn't even mind the awful Lila. Lila was really really bad.

Season 3 is definitely the worst.

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I laughed when the photographer said he could make Deb a star. She's not ugly but she's no model, that's for sure.

Was that a coffin Trinity made? What's going on there?

It certainly was. Possibly for himself?

It's nice he finally killed someone "innocent."

Anyone else get the feeling Trinity is on to Dexter and the coffin is for him? I thought he kind of wanted to see how Dexter
would kill the deer.

That was my thought, that coffin was easily for Dexter.

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By the way, are there places in Florida you can go and just cut down a tree for your own use?

I think it's located right next to the arm eating alligators.

Also, I like strat's idea, although I can't be sure you just don't want to see her dead.

Also would you want to make a box with wet wood?

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Her being instantly naked again - a no brainer

Hi Dad - blew me away

sadly Dexter has become a little boring but every episode the last minute drags me back in

although Lithgow's C word snap was good very good

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LaGuerta and Angel are Puerto Rican, not Mexican. And, for me, it's a useless subplot.

Deb is definitely more interesting when she has a sense of purpose

Nice tits! Again!

Spoiler alert: I have to say I was pretty shocked by the twist. Here I was, thinking Arthur was reading her articles in order to acquaint himself with his next bathtub victim and she turns out to be HIS DAUGHTER?!?! It opens the door for a number of things, not the least of which is that Arthur has, indeed, known who Dexter is all along. And I've had this feeling for some time: The way Arthur plays with the name "Kyle" when greeting Dex ("Hello...Kyle"). It also makes me wonder if Arthur's "family" is really his family.
I liked this episode and I liked the twist. Let the games begin.

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It is really over the top absurd at this point.




QFT! I hate those scenes.

Relatedly, I just learned that Michael C. Hall is married to the actress who plays Deb?!? Gross.



That was great.

I skipped through all the mexican sexican parts (yes I know they're not mexican, no I don't care).

I hardly even noticed the boob victims so I guess this is proof if you need it that I am not a lesbian.

Twist at the end definitely got me, I was expecting/hoping he would just kill her for being on his trail. They seem to be trying to make us think the reporter shot Deb - she has the killer DNA, the knowledge of the crime scene, and the height. But now it would be too obvious.

What about that ridic part with the car where Trinity comes out with a crowbar and makes it 'driveable'?

No idea what they are going to do with Trinity's family now that Dex has acted so weirdly in front of them... absolutely no way he could get away with the murder, the family would clearly suspect him and a fake name isn't enough to keep his identity secure, especially with all the fingerprints etc he has now left around their house.

Also, you all missed the second best-worst line: "So you just want to eat my pie, is that it?" - slutty reporter. "Shut up, cunt" was definitely the best though.

LaGuerta is Cuban.

And the 'Hi Dad' ending was brilliant. I can't remember two simple words in a TV show that made my mind spin and put so many things into perspective.



I don't know about this. Would it be believable for Trinity's family to not care what happened to him? I think his son is seriously thinking about killing dad himself and his 15-year-old daughter was willing to run away with a stranger and be his sex slave just to get away from him. And Mom was fully endorsing the plan.

I think the bigger problem would be Dexter uncomfortable with the idea of leaving behind three people who would have a pretty good idea about who he is and what he did. I think the family could live with it, i think Dexter couldn't.

When it came down to it, the family's reaction to Dexter pinning Trinity with a knife in his hand was horror, and as soon as he let go of Trinity they ran to hug him (the wife and daughter at least). They are clearly afraid of him but I don't think they would "not care" if he died. Especially considering they are so well known in the community, it would look bad for them if they didn't show interest in bringing his murderer to justice.

But the second point you made was more what I had in mind anyway. His identity isn't safe with them. Anyway, there is more to it than just the family, the police would do an investigation and he would definitely come up in their DNA sweeps of the house.

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So, did Tits shoot Lundy because she knows who her father is and was protecting him as Lundy got too close?

I don't know.

Looks like she did the shooting, but I hope the reason is more obscure, such as trying to drum up a story angle that would make her career. Sure, she'd be helping Dad, but that doesn't mean they have the same agenda. I also recall Lundy with a look of puzzlement in his eyes, rather than recognition, which didn't make sense until this revelation.

How did you guys not notice the scene where Deb and reporter are talking and the reporting is basically holding her drink like a gun?

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I try not to notice too much in this show.

The non-responsive widow in the hospital bed who has his eyes open in one shot then the next shot shows his eyes closed annoys me to no end.

To be fair, every show has Dexter shaving and yet he's scruffy in the last shot of the intro. It's a lazily produced, written, blocked and acted series that I watch every week in which I find both frustrating and entertaining at the same time.

I give HBO a giant FU for not picking this show up and delivering on the conceptual potential that was Dexter.

I think you're over-analysing. Pretty sure I clutch beer bottles round the neck too. If it turns out to be significant you can rub it in my face that you were right though.

Anyone else hate to hear the reporter call Quinn 'Joey'? He is so not a Joey.

This is a Joey:




And while I don't fully agree with GWCGWC's comments, I am finding this show is far less "perfect" than it could be. Somewhere, they really went wrong with some writing, subplots, delivery of plot, etc...It's still better than most shows.

I'm pretty sure I've said since the beginning that the only good plotlines in the show involve Dexter killing someone, or the main serial killer they are tracking. All the bullshit with the fringe characters like Deb/LaGuerta/Angel/Asian/Quinn I could care less about, and they are also sub-par actors too compared with Michael Hall and John Lithgow. I've never watched this show because I can't wait to see whether Deb is going to sleep with Anton or whatever - that's why the show is called "Dexter", not "Deb".

Agree that the whole show could be better, but I'd keep Michael Hall, John Lithgow, and the music (which I find creepy and effective). The ghost dad actor guy can stay too but he is getting on my nerves with his constant badgering these days. Everything and everyone else can change for all I care.

Here's a random prediction: Dexter could change his modus operandi (due to extreme necessity), and kill Lithgow but make it look like suicide. He certainly has the forensic skills to cover his tracks, the workers at that build-site already saw Lithgow try to commit suicide once (and even saw Dex save him), and it would be a nice dose of poetic justice if Lithgow was forced to jump off a building.

As far as the show in general, I just started watching a few months ago, and I'm now up to date. I have plenty of gripes with the show but also obviously find it fascinating, etc. One thing that I like, which always sort of brings things back to some sense of reality (however twisted), is Dexter's slide collection, which he still inexplicably stores in the AC. Like, lock that shit up! Put it in with your knives and shit that nobody could ever accidentally find! But (bringing it back to reality), he's an obsessive psychopath. The blood slides go in the AC. That's where they go.




My initial reaction to this picture was, wow, there it is (ok, it was actually WHOOP there it is). Anyways, it really does look like reporter lady is aiming an invisible gun exactly at Deb's wound. Dunno if this just lasted for a second or two (coincidence) or if it went on for awhile (foreshadowing).

it took you almost four seasons to figure this out? it's a bad show with a very cool premise and it has one or two good characters each season. they've hit key areas in just the right way to make a very watchable show. add some boobs. cook for 48 minutes. serve hot.

Edit. I'll put something entertaining here at some point.

the problem with having dexter throw lithgow off a building is that he doesn't kill them because they are bad - he kills them because he digs cutting them up

That's a good point, and he has been really itching for a kill lately iirc, but he did also contemplate letting lithgow fall off that building, thinking that as long as it was his hand causing it he'd be satisfied. In fact, he was about to drop him when the construction guys showed up, no?

Oh also, he wouldn't throw him off. He'd make him jump. Different trajectories, which the investigators could notice. Remember that whole scene where they were dropping dummies off that building?

Here is my theory on how this will resolve. For reasons discussed, Dexter cannot (easily) kill Trinity. However, he can't leave him out there to torture his family either, and to keep killing people.

My prediction is that he will make a choice that he has never made before: allow Deb to apprehend Trinity. That solves the problem of getting rid of Trinity, leaves Dexter without guilt or blame, and allows Deb's character to complete Lundy's work. The only thing we lose is that Dexter does not get his kill, but forgoing a kill for these other reasons would be a development of his character.

I like all of these points.



Cuban, not Rican.



I know. Awful. Also, the naked reporter is married to the new Superman.



Agree on all points, but I was less surprised by the ending than most of you it seems. As soon as Deb was questioning Quinn about the reporter it seemed to be obvious that she was somehow involved in the shooting. When Lithgow was at the door, I didn't know what would happen, but I didn't think he was going to kill her.




I'm not sure. Before the last sentence of the show, I was assuming that she shot them for a story. Now?... who knows.



agree 100%. I basically have hated all the secondary chartacters for the entire show run. I loved Ice Truck. I loved Trinity. The only secondary character that I really liked was Doakes and they killed him off quickly. I hate Deb. I hate Quinn. I hate the reporter. I hate the love story with Angel and MEXICANA. The asian dude is stupid and annoying. I do think I like Rita and her kids. So I guess that's something.





I was thinking this exact same thing as soon as Dexter drove away from the house. "Well... Dexter's f-ed. Now he's going to have to feed Deb the info she needs to arrest him."

I really enjoyed the episode overall. Deb almost crying, constantly, is getting very draining.

Really looking forward to the last two episodes. John Lithgow has been totally awesome. It will be very hard to top this season's overarching plot of Trinity.

More like 4 seasons of denial and hope. I kept writing off my dislike for most of the "other" actors, Doakes excepted (as he was awesome lol), becausse I wanted to think the show was better than it was. As it stands, it's still better than most drivel out there.

On this week's episode, I enjoyed Deb being super focused while questioning the reporter. I think she's much more effective as a character when she's not spewing tears and vulgarity all over the place.

There's a good article about this episode on nymag.com which basically says what I think: they kinda ruined some of the climactic moments from this episode by making them obvious last episode (like we were saying about the reporter shooting Lundy - it wasn't a shock when they confirmed it this week).

Someone on that site made a comment that they were intrigured by the Angel/LaGuerta relationship and wondered where it was going, which made me think. There's not much point in them having a successful relationship on this show, there's no drama in that so it doesn't make good watching. That means something bad is probably going to happen to them, quite possibly in the penultimate or final episode of this series. Ideas: one of them might die or be horribly injured, perhaps in trying to bring down Quaddrity (the new name for Trinity presumably, since he kills 4 people per cycle). Or perhaps they break up and it makes for big tensions round the office, maybe one of them gets transferred to get away. Or maybe it all stays perfect and one of them gets transferred anyway. The best option is clearly the first (death/serious injury) since the happy state they are in right now makes for the perfect opportunity to hammer in something tragic ("Oh no, just when they finally found love Angel gets killed, how will LaGuerta cope!?"). The others aren't exciting enough to be big possibilities, but they are options nonetheless. If nothing happens to break them up this series I guess they might be holding off on it til the next season.

If one of them dies I sure as hell hope it's LaGuerta and not Angel.

i had a nice laugh at this.

Either of them could go, AFAIC

I'm wondering if Arthur will try to find out about Dex and, maybe, replace mini-Arthur with Cody or look at Rita as a bathtub or falling victim.

Also, no one seems to be asking who the reporter's baby momma is...Perhaps it's not even significant, but I'm curious.

I'd be happy either way. Though I would definitely prefer LaGuerta to die on the condition that Angel would stop wearing those stupid hats and Hawaiian shirts.

Going back to an earlier theme in this thread, man that Dexter sure is a softie.