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Table #225312 - Tournament #112886 Table #6
Starting Hand #12542231
Last Hand #12542152
Game Type: Hold'em
Limit Type: No Limit
Table Type: Tournament

Blinds are now $50/$100
Seat 1: awesum - $1365
Seat 2: calag - $1645
Seat 3: SWANNY - $1605
Seat 4: shrimp4789 - $2830
Seat 5: Peacedout - $3085

Dealing [A Q ] to shrimp4789
calag calls $100
SWANNY calls $100
shrimp4789 raises to $500
Peacedout calls $500
awesum folds
calag calls $500
SWANNY raises to $1605 (all-in)
shrimp4789 folds
Peacedout raises to $3085 (all-in)
calag calls $1645 (all-in)

Dealing Flop [5 3 A ]
Dealing Turn [7 ]
Dealing River [J ]

Please comment on the fold....I will explain my reasoning after


damnit i keep forgetting to post in right forum

wow, what a donktastic hand.... 2 limpers, you raise 5x (which is right, IMO) a caller, first limper folds, 2nd limper PUSHES?

I've seen this done w/ a medium pair, or even A10+.... I'd overpush on him, I take it you had some read on the guy who called your raise initially, which is why you folded?


BTW: What's the buyin?

lol a real cheap one, $2. Freezeout style to lol. i dont have the br for real large stakes at the moment but ive cashed in this last 4 days str8 so i enjoy it

im gonna guess you folded because you figured youre at best flipping coins and one of your aces is probobly taken.

i think this is a good fold.

Here is my thinking on this hand in order of how things happened:

1. Table is somewhat passive, and a raise should knock out the players and take blinds

2. Hmm ok peace called. hes still steaming about a hand I beat him on earlier...no problem, im sure im ahead. Putting him on A-J at very best...though I doubt even that.

3. calag calls....hmm no signs of strenth from him...maybe KJ, maybe weak ace...its a $2 tourney....i dont expect much

4. swanny pushes - hmmm. i thought a while about this one. at best i thought it was a coin flip...for what...80% of my chips? i hadnt raised so much i couldnt get away from the hand, but the fold would hurt me a bit.

5. still thinkin....with 2 others who i have a feeling min 1 of them will call, that puts my Aq into a fairly poor position, esp with my putting the 2 limpers with a ace...meaning 1 ace left and 3 queens...not great odds...

My only comment is that we are getting a SICK price to call here, especially when their range is more than likely huge.

That push is almost always an underpair. Act accordingly.

I think in this spot, he's just pushing because he feels pot-commited, and he doesn't necessarily have anything good. I don't think he was planning to limp-raise, and I certainly wouldn't give him credit for AA/KK.

Also, you have 1100 to call into a 4400 chip pot. You're getting the right price to play against anything except AA including AK and KK. You really have to push here, and hope at least one of the cold-callers goes away.

its actually 1100 to call 3450.....so you guys think i should have called? esp considering my chip stack and everything else?

I definately would have pushed all in, after MP2 pushed - in an attempt to isolate your hand.

With the way the hand was played, it's so hard to give ANY of them credit for a big hand (AA, KK, QQ, AK) that would have you dominated... especially in a $2 tournament.

Therefore you are getting fantastic odds to push.

Yeah, this is a shove. If it was the first limper that moved in you may have more of a close decision.

thanks for moving the post for me.

ok will keep what you guys have said in mind for the future. cheers

Yes, this is a reshove. The limp-shover's line reeks of an underpair and you're getting an amazing price to flip with all the dead money. Factor in the chance that he has a smaller Ace than you and you're swimming in boat loads of EV.