BeaverStyle
Monday, October 30th, 2006, 3:20 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed)
Hand History Converter Tool from
FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)
CO (t2620)
Button (t2020)
SB (t3820)
BB (t1775)
UTG (t200)
UTG+1 (t545)
MP1 (t1460)
Hero (t2430)
MP3 (t2275)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J

, K

.
3 folds,
Hero raises to t150,
1 fold, CO calls t150,
1 fold, SB calls t125,
1 fold.
Flop: (t500) K

, 8

, 3
(3 players)SB checks,
Hero bets ??????This is obviously a great flop, what line do you take?
1. Lead out for half pot bet
2. Lead out for pot sized bet
3. Check intending to raise
Or, something else?
GrinderMJ
Monday, October 30th, 2006, 3:27 PM
250-275
I think check raise is really bad here, as is leading pot. You will almost certainly get the same FE from a 1/2-3/4 pot size bet, so why bet extra? With a check raise, if the CO bets it will generally be anywhere from 200-400 and a check raise will pretty much pot committ you with Kings with a jack kicker and I could easily see you being behind
IQCrash
Monday, October 30th, 2006, 4:03 PM
We have top pair with the 2nd nut flush draw. I'm not sure why we'd make such a weak lead into this pot like Grinder is suggesting. I do agree that a check is the worst of choice of all.
I'd bet 350 here.
If CO smooth calls, play based on the turn.
If CO or SB raise your lead, I'd push.
GrinderMJ
Monday, October 30th, 2006, 4:46 PM
oh wow, I missed that you also flopped the nut flush draw

. God I'm stupid, and IQcrash, 250-275 is about 1/2 pot which is a pretty standard bet in most situations
yourboygsarida
Monday, October 30th, 2006, 4:58 PM
im curious, are you willing to gamble if someone pushes back on you? i think underbetting the pot only would work well to get someone on a worse flush draw to call imo otherwise id hit about 300.
simo_8ball
Tuesday, October 31st, 2006, 3:38 AM
I like leading out 300 here. I'm happy being allin if needed.
Briguy
Tuesday, October 31st, 2006, 4:59 AM
I c-bet for 3/4's pot on 75% of flops I miss. I see no reason not to c-bet for 3/4's pot on a monster like this. Yum yum.
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