bassplayer45459
Sunday, October 29th, 2006, 9:05 PM
6 handed omaha hi/lo ring game. I have the button
Little background, as soon as i sat down at the table, villian criticized one of my plays and announced to the table he is playing every hand he is dealt.
- Dealt to hero (Ad Kc As 4d)
2 limpers, i raise too 2 bets, villian on my left calls, seat 3 folds, seat 4 calls...3 of us see the flop.
- Flop Kc Js 8d
Villian leads out, seat 4 folds, i raise it to 2 bets, he thinks for awhile and says "Let me guess, 3 jacks?" and just calls.
- Turn Kh Js 8d 3d
Villian checks, i bet, he calls.
- River Kc Js 8d 3d 10d
Opinions on the raise on the flop to take control and the bet on the turn? Again this would not be a play i would make without the information from him. After he says "three jacks" i figure him for a set of 8's or two pair. After the turn i think i am beat, but is leading out by putting him on a hand i think i can make him fold with my draw justified at all? or how would you have played it differently.
JacKingOff_suit
Monday, October 30th, 2006, 10:05 AM
Given that Villain is playing every hand and the pot size, I would say your plays are standard on each street.
Correct me if I am wrong on the pot size.
Preflop: 7.5 SB
Flop: 11.5 SB
Turn: 7.75 BB
socalpoker_j
Monday, October 30th, 2006, 10:06 AM
Standard... what am I missing here? By you raising the flop, you get the free card on the turn. He let's you go runner runner for free.
JacKingOff_suit
Monday, October 30th, 2006, 10:06 AM
Hmm, I saw two Kc out there, that could make some changes...
Wingman008
Monday, October 30th, 2006, 6:57 PM
I think that if we are trying to get him off his hand, a limp preflop would be better.
Otherwise I would agree and say standard.
antistuff
Monday, October 30th, 2006, 7:28 PM
is checking that turn horrible?
Swift_Psycho
Tuesday, October 31st, 2006, 2:57 PM
QUOTE (antistuff @ Monday, October 30th, 2006, 10:28 PM)

is checking that turn horrible?
Against someone admittedly playing every hand? I think so.
antistuff
Tuesday, October 31st, 2006, 3:46 PM
QUOTE (Swift_Psycho @ Tuesday, October 31st, 2006, 2:57 PM)

Against someone admittedly playing every hand? I think so.
but how about assuming he is playing well postflop?
checkymcfold
Tuesday, October 31st, 2006, 8:08 PM
QUOTE (antistuff @ Tuesday, October 31st, 2006, 7:46 PM)

but how about assuming he is playing well postflop?
very important question.
seriously though, i'd put him on KJ or so as played. betting the turn here is most often the correct play since we will like any low card or a board pair with our hand.
that said, someone who says something like "three jacks?" often has something close to that hand themselves, so i'm not betting the river unless i improve.
Swift_Psycho
Wednesday, November 1st, 2006, 2:59 PM
QUOTE (checkymcfold @ Tuesday, October 31st, 2006, 11:08 PM)

i'm not betting the river unless i improve.
This I agree with. Even if he is playing well post-flop, I will usually bet this turn with the intent to take a free showdown (until that 10d hits of course).