No-Limit Hold'em, .50 BB (10 handed) converter
MP3 ($47.85)
CO ($77.75)
Button ($47.05)
SB ($13.7)
BB ($40.67)
UTG ($49.35)
UTG+1 ($45.54)
Hero ($61.5)
MP1 ($43.25)
MP2 ($130.3)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with [Ks], [Kd]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, BB calls $1.50.
Flop: ($10.25) [Qc], [5h], [3d] (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, MP3 folds, Button calls $18, BB folds, Hero calls $9.
Turn: ($64.25) [6d] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $15, Button calls $15, Hero calls $15.
River: ($109.25) [8d] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.
Final Pot: $109.25
Full Version: did i play this hand as badly as i think?
By the way I hadn't been at table very long so didn't really have any reads on players.
Bet more then 4 BB preflop with KK
I like your flop bet, but you can't just call a raise
ESPECIALLY with a call cold of the bet and the raise
All in or fold at this point.
I'd say all in, but the button call has me worried far more.
I like your flop bet, but you can't just call a raise
ESPECIALLY with a call cold of the bet and the raise
All in or fold at this point.
I'd say all in, but the button call has me worried far more.
In a word: Yes.
In a few more words: I don't understand why you so easily gave up the aggression and then just check/called the turn and checked down to the end. I agree that you have to reraise or fold on the flop, and especially don't call the turn. As Vade said, the fact that the button is sticking around should worry you as much as MP's bets.
In a few more words: I don't understand why you so easily gave up the aggression and then just check/called the turn and checked down to the end. I agree that you have to reraise or fold on the flop, and especially don't call the turn. As Vade said, the fact that the button is sticking around should worry you as much as MP's bets.
QUOTE (Emptyeye)
In a word: Yes.
In a few more words: I don't understand why you so easily gave up the aggression and then just check/called the turn and checked down to the end. I agree that you have to reraise or fold on the flop, and especially don't call the turn. As Vade said, the fact that the button is sticking around should worry you as much as MP's bets.
In a few more words: I don't understand why you so easily gave up the aggression and then just check/called the turn and checked down to the end. I agree that you have to reraise or fold on the flop, and especially don't call the turn. As Vade said, the fact that the button is sticking around should worry you as much as MP's bets.
The button had me worried with just a call of the reraise. Since there was no draw on board I put the button on a set and figured he was slow playing.
No-Limit Hold'em, .50 BB (10 handed) converter
MP3 ($47.85)
CO ($77.75)
Button ($47.05)
SB ($13.7)
BB ($40.67)
UTG ($49.35)
UTG+1 ($45.54)
Hero ($61.5)
MP1 ($43.25)
MP2 ($130.3)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with [Ks], [Kd]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, BB calls $1.50.
I would raise more just because its at party, with that many callers it's going to be tough to play this hand no matter what. When I played at party I raised preflop 6 *BB.
Flop: ($10.25) [Qc], [5h], [3d] (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, MP3 folds, Button calls $18, BB folds, Hero calls $9.
fold or reraise
Turn: ($64.25) [6d] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $15, Button calls $15, Hero calls $15.
fold or reraise
River: ($109.25) [8d] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.
wow that was weak on all people in the pot on that river
Final Pot: $109.25
MP3 ($47.85)
CO ($77.75)
Button ($47.05)
SB ($13.7)
BB ($40.67)
UTG ($49.35)
UTG+1 ($45.54)
Hero ($61.5)
MP1 ($43.25)
MP2 ($130.3)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with [Ks], [Kd]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, BB calls $1.50.
I would raise more just because its at party, with that many callers it's going to be tough to play this hand no matter what. When I played at party I raised preflop 6 *BB.
Flop: ($10.25) [Qc], [5h], [3d] (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, MP3 folds, Button calls $18, BB folds, Hero calls $9.
fold or reraise
Turn: ($64.25) [6d] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $15, Button calls $15, Hero calls $15.
fold or reraise
River: ($109.25) [8d] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.
wow that was weak on all people in the pot on that river
Final Pot: $109.25
QUOTE (redfish)
QUOTE (Emptyeye)
In a word: Yes.
In a few more words: I don't understand why you so easily gave up the aggression and then just check/called the turn and checked down to the end. I agree that you have to reraise or fold on the flop, and especially don't call the turn. As Vade said, the fact that the button is sticking around should worry you as much as MP's bets.
In a few more words: I don't understand why you so easily gave up the aggression and then just check/called the turn and checked down to the end. I agree that you have to reraise or fold on the flop, and especially don't call the turn. As Vade said, the fact that the button is sticking around should worry you as much as MP's bets.
The button had me worried with just a call of the reraise. Since there was no draw on board I put the button on a set and figured he was slow playing.
Folding's fine also. Button definitely has a big hand, in which case you should be getting out of there way and saving your money if you put the button on a set
Results :
Hero has Ks Kd (one pair, kings).
MP1 has Jc Js (one pair, jacks).
Button has Qd 9s (one pair, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $109.25.
The 4X bb bet is standard for me with no one in the pot and I bump it up if others have already limped. My thinking is to always bet same amount preflop so they can never get any information from the size of my preflop bet. I have been hearing that a lot of people bet more preflop with big pairs so I'll have to think about that.
I've been getting hammered by sets lately and that's what I put the button on so I think I really should have folded on the flop after I got reraised and the button called. Then it confused the heck out of me when mp bet turn and button just called.
Can't say that I deserved to win it, but I'll take it
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Hero has Ks Kd (one pair, kings).
MP1 has Jc Js (one pair, jacks).
Button has Qd 9s (one pair, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $109.25.
The 4X bb bet is standard for me with no one in the pot and I bump it up if others have already limped. My thinking is to always bet same amount preflop so they can never get any information from the size of my preflop bet. I have been hearing that a lot of people bet more preflop with big pairs so I'll have to think about that.
I've been getting hammered by sets lately and that's what I put the button on so I think I really should have folded on the flop after I got reraised and the button called. Then it confused the heck out of me when mp bet turn and button just called.
Can't say that I deserved to win it, but I'll take it
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Q9 in a 50 dollar game in a raised pot
LOL
Yeah, you were damn lucky to take this one
If MP1 bets the river, would you call that as well (just curious)
LOL
Yeah, you were damn lucky to take this one
If MP1 bets the river, would you call that as well (just curious)
QUOTE (Vade)
Q9 in a 50 dollar game in a raised pot
LOL
Yeah, you were damn lucky to take this one
If MP1 bets the river, would you call that as well (just curious)
LOL
Yeah, you were damn lucky to take this one
If MP1 bets the river, would you call that as well (just curious)
Looking back on it I was being stubborn, but I called the reraise and turn bet because both were pretty small in relation to the money in pot. I guess if mp made another small bet I would have called that too :oops: .
No need to be embarassed, you won the pot, and I've won pots that I didn't deserve too
We all do
We all do
Bet more then 4 BB preflop with KK
Vade, I don't agree with this either. I'm just curious what your thinking is here. I understand the desire to protect a premium hand, but if the amount of your initial raises are going to correspond with the strength of your holdings, you're going to be pretty easy to read...
Vade, I don't agree with this either. I'm just curious what your thinking is here. I understand the desire to protect a premium hand, but if the amount of your initial raises are going to correspond with the strength of your holdings, you're going to be pretty easy to read...
QUOTE (Vade)
No need to be embarassed, you won the pot, and I've won pots that I didn't deserve too
We all do
We all do
I totally agree with this. Just try to make sure (OP) you don't play this the same way every time as a result of it being correct this once. Next time, either reraise the flop or just fold if you feel that strongly you're drawing to two outs.
QUOTE (NYIsles)
Bet more then 4 BB preflop with KK
Vade, I don't agree with this either. I'm just curious what your thinking is here. I understand the desire to protect a premium hand, but if the amount of your initial raises are going to correspond with the strength of your holdings, you're going to be pretty easy to read...
Vade, I don't agree with this either. I'm just curious what your thinking is here. I understand the desire to protect a premium hand, but if the amount of your initial raises are going to correspond with the strength of your holdings, you're going to be pretty easy to read...
I agree, I think its best to set a standard raise of 4 or 5 BB's and stick with that most of the time (got to switch it up sometimes, but not a lot in low limit party games). I'd rather raise 4BB's and get some callers, than raise 8BB's and rarely get any action. Sure, it means you'll lose more pots since those callers will occasionally suck out on you, but you'll get paid off so much more, which I think this example shows you ... I mean, Q9?! LOL.
I do agree with everyone that you should have either been more aggressive after the re-raise on the flop or let go of the hand. But hey, at least you won the pot.
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