Continuing with this, we know the drill, so here is KB2(this was also taken verbatim from my 2+2 review). The first thread got derailed because people were focusing way too much on semantics as opposed to focusing on the film, lets not let this thread turn into that again. For reference, Here is the list that I am working off of. lets get onto the film



Kill Bill Vol. 2: This is the closing chapter in Quentin Tarantino's revenge story.

This follows a more linear story line as opposed to Vol. 1 and the tempo of the film is much less fierce from Vol. 1. We don't get the barrage of characters that we do in the first Volume and we get more character development in this one too. We are given reasons to care for the players in this story and IMO the characters are more interesting. We finally get the Bride's name, but it doesn't come across as this big hullaballo. I think that it was presented right, and you then go on to the rest of the story.

The fights scenes aren't as plentiful, but in ways, are a bit better. The fight between Elle and the Bride is what that fight should be. It doesn't resort to the typical cat fight forumula that you normally see between two bitter female rivals, but there is still that element there. THe fight between Bill and the Bride also accomplishes what is supposed to also.

Some of the most interesting stuff revloves around Micheal Madsen's charatcer- Budd. He is a broken man that is just going through life as an alcoholic now. You can really feel the tension between him and bill and him and elle. We don't find out what led to his and Bill's falling out, but, the insinuation is that it had something to do with what they did to the Bride

The scenes between Bill and the Bride are great. You can really feel the Bride's hatred for him, but at the same time she still is very much in love with him. When she finally comes across him and sees her daughter for the first time, you get the feeling of the three of them being a family for that brief amount of time that they are together, and David Carradine really carries these scenes. He is this ultimate killer, a father, and a lover at the same time, and this makes for a real good dichotomy of who he really is. It also shows us to try to look beyond the assasin aspect of these people

I'd also like to address Pei Mei. He is one of those Tarantino specials. THough his scenes are probably 15-20 minutes tops, he leaves a lasting impression on you. He really represents the old values of martial arts teachers and goes about it in ways that we will find amusing. He is a very fun character and is almost reason enough to watch this film

I enjoyed this film a lot more then Vol. 1. Granted, you have to look at them as a whole, but, I do find it odd that Tarantino put more of his personal touch into this one as opposed to Vol. 1. THere is more thought put into the dialouge and character development and we are given reasons for everything behind each action by the characters

Overall: 4.25
rewatchability: This is one that I enjoy watching over and ovver again. It is definetly a film that you can bust out once a month and watch. This is definetly one though that needs to be seen by people over the age of 14.

RATINGS (out of 5):
0 - This is a complete waste of time, and you will regret wasting it
1 - don't bother unless no other options at all
2 - okay for a single watch, if you've got time
3 - Definite watch if you get a chance
4 - See it very soon, at least once before you die
5 - See it immediately, no excuses

good review, keep them coming. but i dont see any of these movies on the list that you said you were working off of.

If that is true, why is he so vindictive against her? I realize she was out to kill him, so of course he will not simply allow that to happen, but he also says she deserves her revenge, so he understands her perspective. So why does he go through so much trouble to kill her rather than just shooting her in the head and being done with it?

I also thought the breaking out of the coffin scene lasted too long.


The best part of both movies in my opinion and I'm not really a big David Carradine fan.


Definitely a memorable character; one of the reasons why 2 might be better than 1.


Actually, I do believe 2 is a better movie than 1 if we're going to separate them. However, every scene once the Bride makes it to Tokyo in Vol. 1 is highly entertaining. And I think the music in those scenes deserves a special mention.

I'm working off of the entire 250, not just the top 50

i also didnt get how in this movie you got the impression that bud respected the main character and said she deserved revenge but yet he still tried to kill her in an extremely painful way. same thing with that ellie girl. didnt really make sense.

Bud made it clear he respected her and understood why she wanted revenge, doesn't mean he would roll over and play dead for her. In fact Beatrix never did get the chance to kill him kind of ruins her revenge.

Ellie I thought made it obvious she was jealous of Beatrix and Bills relationship, and wanted her out of the picture.

If he did respect her and understand her revenge, why did he want to bury her alive instead of just shooting her?

cause he wanted her to suffer the way that bill suffered when she went awol on them


Don, I think you must've missed Budd's little soliloquy when Bill talked to him in person. He said that she deserved to exact her revenge, but she also deserved to die

kdawg you should review Oldboy next, its way too low on that bogus list, but it is on there.

how I'm gonna work this is post up all the reviews I've already done, so the aviator and igby goes down are the next two. After that what I'm gonna do is go with all of the ones that I own in TSPDT's order. So, Oldboy will definetly get reviewed, but probably not until jan at the earliest. So this will be the order after I post up Igby

in the mood for love
sideways
eternal sunshine
lost in translation
LoTR:fellowship(I will do the regular version)
Y Tu Mama Tambien
Crouching TIger
LoTR: RotK
MDB
Before Sunset(what I am thinking though is doing before sunrise first since that needs to be seen to understand Before Sunset best, even though Sunrise was in the 90s)
Adaptation
Talk to Her
Ghost World
American Splendor
The squid and the whale
Mystic River
LoTR:two towers
Royal Tennenbaums
2046
Brokeback MT
the Incredibles
the pianist
almost famous
waking life
traffic
requiem(since the aviator will already be done, obviously i won't need to do another)
good night and good luck
master and commander
munich
amelie
gosford park
capote
house of flying daggers
amores perros
gangs of NY
triplets of belleville
bad education
kinsey
maria full of grace
hotel rwanda
school of rock
high fidelity
bowling for columbine
21 grams
farenheit 9/11
hero
o brother where are thou
before night falls
saraband
gladiator
me and you and everyone we know
25th hour
broken flowers
motor cycle diaries
junebug
match point
the station agent
kung fu hustle
ray
shuan of the dead
a mighty wind
solaris
old boy
memories of murder


and from teh just missed category

the sea inside
3 burials of melquiades estrada
secretary
auto focus
downfall
seabiscuit

and I'm gonna add the memory of a killer since that film owns big time. I'm gonna try to do 2 or 3 a week til mid dec. and from there I may be able to do 5 after my semester is over

See, and I thought the scenes with Carradine drug this movie down like a lead balloon. I thought the final scenes with bill were extremelly anti climatic. If viewed as a whole, I think think it makes Kill Bill 2 look even worse, as the action peaks at the end of KB1. Granted, these are more than just action movies.. but they ARE Kung Fu movies, they are action movies, so you jsut can't have to most spectacular fight scenes so early on. The fight against bill was short and gimmicky and was that way because Carridine is completely useless these days as a physcial actor. I liked KB 1 much more than 2, altough I lthink the Pei Mei scene is the best in either movie.

The ending with Carradine was perfect, I loved his whole truth serum and the diatribe on Superman was brilliant. The way he delivers the dialogue is top notch.

Dude aren't you fancy. I am bored I am gonna zipp threw the list.

in the mood for love- I avoid films like this.
sideways- I should avoid films like this. It's fun to watch that generation. They so make me laugh. My home is in this movie.
eternal sunshine- It was on tv when i was high once. I had no idea what it was about it did make me feel more high, so four stars
lost in translation- how do you say love?
LoTR:fellowship(I will do the regular version)- a regular version? what the hell is regular about tolkien. he n uts.
Y Tu Mama Tambien- the mise on scene of the noveau spanish cinema makes my pants grow.
Crouching TIger- Aren't declerators fun kids. more decelration mastery from the masters of the decelrators and flying wire thingies.
LoTR: RotK-ditto
MDB- what? I sir am not an erudite.
Before Sunset(what I am thinking though is doing before sunrise first since that needs to be seen to understand Before Sunset best, even though Sunrise was in the 90s)- I agree
Adaptation- Who makes bad writing good. kaufman thats who.
Talk to Her- I will
Ghost World- Hello Thora Birch Birch. Get it (Birch) (Birch)
American Splendor- I tell you my oppinion but I got better things to do you *******...
The squid and the whale- Free Willy!!!
Mystic River- The burning of the withches in the witch burning scene could have been more grapphic.
LoTR:two towers-whatever.....
Royal Tennenbaums- People really did dress and act like that back then.
2046- /2 is 1022...j/k it's really 1023
Brokeback MT- When Chuck Norris drove his truck out of the ground David Carradine totaly looked like he was gonna crap his pants.
the Incredibles- Wow!
the pianist- I don't watch porn
almost famous- This film makes me cry. Ruby in Paradise is a much better film at least I feel better about my self after seeing that one. Cameron Crow You Lucky SOB!!!
waking life- you are reading it right now.
traffic- Makes you wonder how well the smart ppl did.
requiem(since the aviator will already be done, obviously i won't need to do another)- Do you watch Fraiser?
good night and good luck- Clooney is the man. You take the good you take the bad.....
master and commander- What pirates do is their bussines. And their is No Bussiness like Show Bussines
munich- wonderful. not as good as the Black Sunday Documentary Thought.. Somebody got played...got played bad.

amelie- I missed the film do to a tragic mocha accident right before the theatre was to let in Ol Chap.
gosford park- Oh my this embarrising especially with amelie above. i 'll just say I had a esspressoo issue that day.
capote- The man the myth the legend and he wasn't afraid to bust caps in your dumb butt. Yes Al Capote a true legend and hero.
house of flying daggers- See at your own risk.
amores perros.- smores rock!
gangs of NY-
triplets of belleville- You totally watch Fraisier.
bad education
kinsey
maria full of grace- You own the Fraiser DVD Box set. I just know it.
school of rock-superb ainmation
high fidelity- Oh london
21 grams- I want truck like that dude got. Hell yeah.
farenheit 9/11- Oh that George Orwell
hero- Hiya!
o brother where are thou- You take the good.....
before night falls. Scary.
saraband. The story of a girl named sara and her wacky band.
gladiator- Its the story of jesus
me and you and everyone we know- Dude. Remnds me of a cow patty at the Cow Palace. If you got that one Pm me. I will admit YOU RULE in public.
25th hour- more like some one needs a math tutor.
broken flowers. Those Bastards!
motor cycle diaries- Like I care
Rainbug
match point, set.
the station agent left
kung fu hustled karate.

ray-
shuan of the dead-
a mighty wind- Simply the most accurate and truthful account of the Folk music scene ever made period. If you disagree, i will hit you. Hard.
solaris-The Real Deal!!!
old boy- Its kind of cool. I guess.
memories of murder- more like memories of a candy ***.

and from teh just missed category

the sea inside and express your inner dumbaccery
3 burials of melquiades estrada- Damn WItches.
secretary- its ok and all.
auto focus- your so fancy. Girls or boys must swoon at magnamous intellect. Hey can I say Magnamous intellect?
downfall- nachos. yep.
seabiscuit-not as good as Crimsion Tide or Das Boot

the memory of a killer-cute

wow I did it. F that if you think I am proff readin that.

may I suggest seeing more John Waters films.