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Emptyeye
Looking to improve my game here...a few hands from my most recent session.

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is SB with [Kc], [Qc].
UTG calls, MP calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Emptyeye completes, BB checks.

KQ, suited or no, is not a hand I generally like. I know most of the board favors it, so help me out here. I have the feeling the concensus is going to be I should've raised here. I'd like to add this hand to my arsenal (Or at least become more confident in playing it), so any help is greatly appreciated.

Flop: (5 SB) [2c], [Td], [Qs] (5 players)
Emptyeye bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP folds, Button calls.

I do know when a flop has hit me, however, and I fire at it.

Turn: (4.50 BB) [Ac] (4 players)
Emptyeye bets, Emptyeye calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Bet out in spite of the ace and get raised. I call the raise, figuring he's hit the straight, but I still have 9 outs to the ace-high flush and another 4 to a split pot.

River: (10.50 BB) [4c] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, Button calls.

Bingo. Obvious bet here.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is BB with [3d], [9s].
2 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Emptyeye checks.

I like free flops.

Flop: (5 SB) [9h], [3c], [Ad] (5 players)
SB checks, Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

I especially like flopping two-pair with random cards. One of the things I know needs work is my aggression (Specifically, being aggressive in the right spots). Was the 3-bet a good move here?

Turn: (8.50 BB) [Jh] (4 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

I'll fire at it again until I get signaled to slow down.

River: (12.50 BB) [Qs] (4 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button calls.

And again.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is CO with [Qd], [Qs].
2 folds, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) [3h], [Jh], [5c] (4 players)
BB folds, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Emptyeye bets, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.20 BB) [2h] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Emptyeye bets, MP2 folds.

Post-flop overpairs are annoying, though I think I played this okay.
Final Pot: 6.20 BB

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is SB with [Th], [Ah].
UTG calls, 2 folds, UTG calls, Button calls.

Raise with ATs. Yeah, yeah , I can't explain why I like AJ or AT but not KQ. Anyway, AT is a raise-or-fold hand to me, and I do the former here.

Flop: (7 SB) [2s], [4h], [Td] (3 players)
Emptyeye bets, UTG folds, Button calls.

Hit top pair and bet it.

Turn: (4.50 BB) [Jd] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, Button calls.

Bet again despite the overcard...is this too aggressive?

River: (6.50 BB) [8c] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, Button folds.

Bet one more time and take it down.
Final Pot: 7.50 BB

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is CO with [7s], [7c].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls.

Too aggressive with the sevens? They are a Hellmuth Top-10 Hand after all... laugh.gif

Flop: (5.40 SB) [9s], [4c], [Th] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Emptyeye bets, UTG+1 folds.

Bet the (Suboptimal) flop and take it down. Not sure what I would've done had I gotten called here.
Final Pot: 3.20 BB

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is Button with [Ac], [Qh].
2 folds, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Raise the AQ.

Flop: (6.40 SB) [Th], [Kh], [Kc] (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Emptyeye bets, BB folds, MP1 folds.

Not exactly a flop I wanted to see, but I fire at it mainly because I raised preflop. Apparently it scared everyone else as much as it scared me.
Final Pot: 3.70 BB

How NOT to play an OESD:

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is Button with [9d], [Td].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (6.40 SB) [Js], [8d], [4h] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, CO calls, Emptyeye calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) [2c] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, CO folds, Emptyeye calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (9.20 BB) [9c] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP1 bets, Emptyeye calls, UTG folds.

I should definitely have raised at some point here, though I'm not sure where. I hit the 9 on the river and crying-call, praying that it's good.
Final Pot: 11.20 BB

And here's how NOT to play pocket jacks:

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is Button with [Jd], [Jh].
1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) [5c], [9d], [9s] (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Emptyeye calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) [Td] (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls, Emptyeye calls.

River: (10.70 BB) [Ad] (3 players)
BB bets, CO calls, Emptyeye calls.

I figured BB had the third nine pretty much the whole time. I chased my two-outer the whole way, and then was priced into the river call when I missed. One day I'll learn how to play Jacks when I miss. Realistically, what I should have done was either raise on the flop to see where I was at or simply fold to the bet and 18 calls before me.
Final Pot: 13.70 BB

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is BB with [Jc], [Th].
UTG calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Emptyeye checks.

I like free flops.

Flop: (6 SB) [8c], [Td], [Kd] (6 players)
SB checks, Emptyeye bets, UTG folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds.

This is what I mean when I talk about being aggressive in the right spots. whenever I hit a marginal piece of the flop in a blind, I'll bet it, and usually continue to do so right up until the river. Second pair with a paint overcard on the board isn't very good, but I bet it anyway.

Turn: (4 BB) [9s] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls.

And now I bet my straight draw.

River: (6 BB) [Kc] (2 players)
Emptyeye checks, MP2 bets, Emptyeye calls.

And miss said draw, again crying-calling and praying I'm good.

Final Pot: 8 BB

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is UTG with [Kc], [Kd].
Emptyeye raises.

Obvious preflop raise.

Flop: (5.40 SB) [Ts], [Ac], [Qc] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls.

Turn: (3.70 BB) [3s] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls.

River: (5.70 BB) [7h] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls.

I bet it all the way despite the ace on the flop. Overly aggressive, or correct given that I met no resistance along the way?
Final Pot: 7.70 BB

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is BB with [4s], [6c].
1 fold, SB completes, Emptyeye checks.

I'll take a free look at the flop.

Flop: (4 SB) [7h], [5h], [3h] (4 players)
SB checks, Emptyeye bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, SB folds.

Uh-oh. I hit my straight on a 3-suited board. I bet out, figuring that's the only way to know for sure where I'm at (And I don't want any one-card flushes getting free draws). I think I'm good with the calls...

Turn: (3.50 BB) [9c] (3 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 folds, Emptyeye calls.

Damn. Bet it again and get raised, and immediately realize I walked right into a trap (That, or UTG+1 has balls of steel).

River: (7.50 BB) [7c] (2 players)
Emptyeye checks, UTG+1 bets, Emptyeye calls.

And check-call the river. I'll break general board practice here and tell you that he did, in fact, flop the flush (Ace-high no less). After the hand, I told him "nicely played", and actually meant it--if he raises the flop, as most of us would do, I pretty confidently drop my straight right there. By waiting until the turn to check/raise, he effectively hooked me into the rest of the hand.
Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Thoughts? Analysis? "Shut up u sux"s?
DCWildcat
I really like the way you played most of these. Probably would have slowed down on the hand you had KK on the river...all those calls scream Axs, hoping the kicker is good.

Last hand you got played, but you did what was right. Does it suck that you bet into someone (after they simply call on the flop) and get raised? Yes. But with a flopped straight, you really have no other alternative.
Absolute
QUOTE (Emptyeye)
Preflop: Emptyeye is SB with [Kc], [Qc].  
UTG calls, MP calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Emptyeye completes, BB checks.  

KQ, suited or no, is not a hand I generally like. I know most of the board favors it, so help me out here. I have the feeling the concensus is going to be I should've raised here. I'd like to add this hand to my arsenal (Or at least become more confident in playing it), so any help is greatly appreciated.  

Flop: (5 SB) [2c], [Td], [Qs] (5 players)  
Emptyeye bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP folds, Button calls.  

I do know when a flop has hit me, however, and I fire at it.  

Turn: (4.50 BB) [Ac] (4 players)  
Emptyeye bets, BB calls, UTG calls, Button raises, Emptyeye calls, BB folds, UTG folds.  

Bet out in spite of the ace and get raised. I call the raise, figuring he's hit the straight, but I still have 9 outs to the ace-high flush and another 4 to a split pot.  

River: (10.50 BB) [4c] (2 players)  
Emptyeye bets, Button calls.  

Bingo. Obvious bet here.  

Final Pot: 12.50 BB


Im sorry to hear you don't like KQs.
Raise KQs when limped to you, raise KQs when its folded to you, call a raise with it! Go nuts!

Especially 6 handed, cmon.

QUOTE (Emptyeye)
PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (7 handed) converter  

Preflop: Emptyeye is BB with [3d], [9s].  
2 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Emptyeye checks.  

I like free flops.  

Flop: (5 SB) [9h], [3c], [Ad] (5 players)  
SB checks, Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls, CO raises, Button calls, SB folds, Emptyeye 3-bets, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.  

I especially like flopping two-pair with random cards. One of the things I know needs work is my aggression (Specifically, being aggressive in the right spots). Was the 3-bet a good move here?  

Turn: (8.50 BB) [Jh] (4 players)  
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.  

I'll fire at it again until I get signaled to slow down.  

River: (12.50 BB) [Qs] (4 players)  
Emptyeye bets, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button calls.  

And again.  

Final Pot: 15.50 BB


Looks fine.


QUOTE (Emptyeye)
PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (6 handed) converter  

Preflop: Emptyeye is SB with [Th], [Ah].  
UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, Emptyeye raises, 1 fold, UTG calls, Button calls.  

Raise with ATs. Yeah, yeah , I can't explain why I like AJ or AT but not KQ. Anyway, AT is a raise-or-fold hand to me, and I do the former here.  

Flop: (7 SB) [2s], [4h], [Td] (3 players)  
Emptyeye bets, UTG folds, Button calls.  

Hit top pair and bet it.  

Turn: (4.50 BB) [Jd] (2 players)  
Emptyeye bets, Button calls.  

Bet again despite the overcard...is this too aggressive?  

River: (6.50 BB) [8c] (2 players)  
Emptyeye bets, Button folds.  

Bet one more time and take it down.  
Final Pot: 7.50 BB


So we raise with A10s and not KQs? Confusing.
Anyway, everything looks good.
When are the interesting hands coming? Im gonna skip to them.


QUOTE (Emptyeye)
PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter  

Preflop: Emptyeye is Button with [9d], [Td].  
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Emptyeye calls, 1 fold, BB checks.  

Flop: (6.40 SB) [Js], [8d], [4h] (6 players)  
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, CO calls, Emptyeye calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.  

Turn: (6.20 BB) [2c] (6 players)  
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, CO folds, Emptyeye calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.  

River: (9.20 BB) [9c] (3 players)  
UTG checks, MP1 bets, Emptyeye calls, UTG folds.  

I should definitely have raised at some point here, though I'm not sure where. I hit the 9 on the river and crying-call, praying that it's good.  
Final Pot: 11.20 BB


The flop call is interesting, you will probably get various opinions on it here. I like raising, I think with two players already in and three to act behind you, the raise is better for value than just calling.
Calling the river is fine.


QUOTE (Emptyeye)
PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) converter  

Preflop: Emptyeye is Button with [Jd], [Jh].  
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, CO calls, Emptyeye raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.  

Flop: (10.40 SB) [5c], [9d], [9s] (5 players)  
BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Emptyeye calls.  

Turn: (7.70 BB) [Td] (5 players)  
BB bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls, Emptyeye calls.  

River: (10.70 BB) [Ad] (3 players)  
BB bets, CO calls, Emptyeye calls.  

I figured BB had the third nine pretty much the whole time. I chased my two-outer the whole way, and then was priced into the river call when I missed. One day I'll learn how to play Jacks when I miss. Realistically, what I should have done was either raise on the flop to see where I was at or simply fold to the bet and 18 calls before me.  
Final Pot: 13.70 BB



Raise the flop, and if know one three-bets it........
Raise the turn.
River call is fine.
wrto4556
[quote=Emptyeye]Looking to improve my game here...a few hands from my most recent session.

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is SB with [Kc], [Qc].    
UTG calls, MP calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Emptyeye completes, BB checks.

KQ, suited or no, is not a hand I generally like. I know most of the board favors it, so help me out here. I have the feeling the concensus is going to be I should've raised here. I'd like to add this hand to my arsenal (Or at least become more confident in playing it), so any help is greatly appreciated.

Flop: (5 SB) [2c], [Td], [Qs] (5 players)
Emptyeye bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP folds, Button calls.

I do know when a flop has hit me, however, and I fire at it.

Turn: (4.50 BB) [Ac] (4 players)
Emptyeye bets, Emptyeye calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Bet out in spite of the ace and get raised. I call the raise, figuring he's hit the straight, but I still have 9 outs to the ace-high flush and another 4 to a split pot.

River: (10.50 BB) [4c] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, Button calls.

Bingo. Obvious bet here.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB[/quote]


Raise this preflop. Everytime, even from the blinds.

[quote=Emptyeye]PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is BB with [3d], [9s].    
2 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Emptyeye checks.

I like free flops.

Flop: (5 SB) [9h], [3c], [Ad] (5 players)
SB checks, Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

I especially like flopping two-pair with random cards. One of the things I  know needs work is my aggression (Specifically, being aggressive in the right spots). Was the 3-bet a good move here?

Turn: (8.50 BB) [Jh] (4 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

I'll fire at it again until I get signaled to slow down.

River: (12.50 BB) [Qs] (4 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button calls.

And again.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB[/quote]

Nice hand. A C/r on the flop would be good because your hand is vulnerable. Try and knock out as many opponents as you can while you are still ahead.

[quote=Emptyeye]PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is CO with [Qd], [Qs].    
2 folds, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) [3h], [Jh], [5c] (4 players)
BB folds, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Emptyeye bets, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.20 BB) [2h] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Emptyeye bets, MP2 folds.

Post-flop overpairs are annoying, though I think I played this okay.
Final Pot: 6.20 BB

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (6 handed) converter[/quote]

Ni han.

[quote=Emptyeye]Preflop: Emptyeye is SB with [Th], [Ah].    
UTG calls, 2 folds, UTG calls, Button calls.

Raise with ATs. Yeah, yeah , I can't explain why I like AJ or AT but not KQ. Anyway, AT is a raise-or-fold hand to me, and I do the former here.

Flop: (7 SB) [2s], [4h], [Td] (3 players)
Emptyeye bets, UTG folds, Button calls.

Hit top pair and bet it.

Turn: (4.50 BB) [Jd] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, Button calls.

Bet again despite the overcard...is this too aggressive?

River: (6.50 BB) [8c] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, Button folds.

Bet one more time and take it down.
Final Pot: 7.50 BB[/quote]

You raise ATs but not KQs. Silly bastard. :-) Well played. Yes, the turn bet was good.

[quote=Emptyeye]PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is CO with [7s], [7c].    
1 fold, UTG+1 calls.

Too aggressive with the sevens? They are a Hellmuth Top-10 Hand after all... laugh.gif

Flop: (5.40 SB) [9s], [4c], [Th] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Emptyeye bets, UTG+1 folds.

Bet the (Suboptimal) flop and take it down. Not sure what I would've done had I gotten called here.
Final Pot: 3.20 BB[/quote]

OK. You played this well, but I don't think you know why. Because only one person is in the pot with you and you are in the CO a raise will get you heads up. Isolation. But, if one other person had entered this pot before the action was on you, a raise would be -EV.

[quote=Emptyeye]PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is Button with [Ac], [Qh].    
2 folds, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Raise the AQ.

Flop: (6.40 SB) [Th], [Kh], [Kc] (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Emptyeye bets, BB folds, MP1 folds.

Not exactly a flop I wanted to see, but I fire at it mainly because I raised preflop. Apparently it scared everyone else as much as it scared me.
Final Pot: 3.70BB[/quote]

Nice play. What do you do when you are called?

[quote=Emptyeye]How NOT to play an OESD:

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is Button with [9d], [Td].    
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (6.40 SB) [Js], [8d], [4h] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, CO calls, Emptyeye calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) [2c] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, CO folds, Emptyeye calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (9.20 BB) [9c] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP1 bets, Emptyeye calls, UTG folds.

I should definitely have raised at some point here, though I'm not sure where. I hit the 9 on the river and crying-call, praying that it's good.
Final Pot: 11.20 BB[/quote]

No, raising wouldn't be for value anywhere in this hand. Fold the river.

[quote=Emptyeye]And here's how NOT to play pocket jacks:

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is Button with [Jd], [Jh].    
1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) [5c], [9d], [9s] (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Emptyeye calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) [Td] (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls, Emptyeye calls.

River: (10.70 BB) [Ad] (3 players)
BB bets, CO calls, Emptyeye calls.

I figured BB had the third nine pretty much the whole time. I chased my two-outer the whole way, and then was priced into the river call when I missed. One day I'll learn how to play Jacks when I miss. Realistically, what I should have done was either raise on the flop to see where I was at or simply fold to the bet and 18 calls before me.
Final Pot: 13.70 BB[/quote]

You got to raise this flop, bro. The hand would be much easier to play with the info given from a raise.

[quote=Emptyeye]PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is BB with [Jc], [Th].    
UTG calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Emptyeye checks.

I like free flops.

Flop: (6 SB) [8c], [Td], [Kd] (6 players)
SB checks, Emptyeye bets, UTG folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds.

This is what I mean when I talk about being aggressive in the right spots. whenever I hit a marginal piece of the flop in a blind, I'll bet it, and usually continue to do so right up until the river. Second pair with a paint overcard on the board isn't very good, but I bet it anyway.

Turn: (4 BB) [9s] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls.

And now I bet my straight draw.

River: (6 BB) [Kc] (2 players)
Emptyeye checks, MP2 bets, Emptyeye calls.

And miss said draw, again crying-calling and praying I'm good.

Final Pot: 8 BB[/quote]

This looks OK. The pot is pretty small, though. I want to fold somewhere but cant think of the right place.

[quote=Emptyeye]PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is UTG with [Kc], [Kd].    
Emptyeye raises.

Obvious preflop raise.

Flop: (5.40 SB) [Ts], [Ac], [Qc] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls.

Turn: (3.70 BB) [3s] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls.

River: (5.70 BB) [7h] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls.

I bet it all the way despite the ace on the flop. Overly aggressive, or correct given that I met no resistance along the way?
Final Pot: 7.70 BB[/quote]

check/call the river.

[quote=Emptyeye]PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is BB with [4s], [6c].    
1 fold, SB completes, Emptyeye checks.

I'll take a free look at the flop.

Flop: (4 SB) [7h], [5h], [3h] (4 players)
SB checks, Emptyeye bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, SB folds.

Uh-oh. I hit my straight on a 3-suited board. I bet out, figuring that's the only way to know for sure where I'm at (And I don't want any one-card flushes getting free draws). I think I'm good with the calls...

Turn: (3.50 BB) [9c] (3 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 folds, Emptyeye calls.

Damn. Bet it again and get raised, and immediately realize I walked right into a trap (That, or UTG+1 has balls of steel).

River: (7.50 BB) [7c] (2 players)
Emptyeye checks, UTG+1 bets, Emptyeye calls.

And check-call the river. I'll break general board practice here and tell you that he did, in fact, flop the flush (Ace-high no less). After the hand, I told him "nicely played", and actually meant it--if he raises the flop, as most of us would do, I pretty confidently drop my straight right there. By waiting until the turn to check/raise, he effectively hooked me into the rest of the hand.
Final Pot: 9.50 BB[/quote]

Anyone like 3-beting this turn?
Absolute
QUOTE (wrto4556)
Anyone like 3-beting this turn?


A better question I think is...
How do you feel about UTG+1 slowplaying the nuts on the flop? With two behind him who would be forced to call two cold. Is this good?

As for the turn, I like raising it. I am trying to think though, of hands UTG+1 could have that he would call the flop with and raise on the turn. A-9 seems silly. And he would raise the flop with 9-9. Seems like the turn raise really puts him on a better straight or a flush.
wrto4556
QUOTE (Absolute)
. Seems like the turn raise really puts him on a better straight or a flush.


Probably.
KDawgCometh
Looking to improve my game here...a few hands from my most recent session.

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Emptyeye is SB with [Kc], [Qc].
UTG calls, MP calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Emptyeye completes, BB checks.

KQ, suited or no, is not a hand I generally like. I know most of the board favors it, so help me out here. I have the feeling the concensus is going to be I should've raised here. I'd like to add this hand to my arsenal (Or at least become more confident in playing it), so any help is greatly appreciated.

normally I like raising with KQ anywhere if there are two limpers and I'm teh first to raise. In a situation like you have completing is the better idea as your out of position and there are gonna be five to the flop. BTW don't ever call two cold with KQo, jusst live by it

Flop: (5 SB) [2c], [Td], [Qs] (5 players)
Emptyeye bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP folds, Button calls.

I do know when a flop has hit me, however, and I fire at it.

CheckRaise this. Your in good position to do it and its a good enough board to do it on

Turn: (4.50 BB) [Ac] (4 players)
Emptyeye bets, Emptyeye calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Bet out in spite of the ace and get raised. I call the raise, figuring he's hit the straight, but I still have 9 outs to the ace-high flush and another 4 to a split pot.

I like your play here. nice, and good thought process too

River: (10.50 BB) [4c] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, Button calls.

Bingo. Obvious bet here.

I wonder if you can get a CR here. hmmm, maybe not

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

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Preflop: Emptyeye is BB with [3d], [9s].
2 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Emptyeye checks.

I like free flops.

And you have SIK, ahh the power of SIK

Flop: (5 SB) [9h], [3c], [Ad] (5 players)
SB checks, Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

I especially like flopping two-pair with random cards. One of the things I know needs work is my aggression (Specifically, being aggressive in the right spots). Was the 3-bet a good move here?

yes, yes, and oh yeah, yes. SSSSIIIIIIKKKKKKK

Turn: (8.50 BB) [Jh] (4 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

I'll fire at it again until I get signaled to slow down.

River: (12.50 BB) [Qs] (4 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button calls.

And again.

oh yeah SIK baby

Final Pot: 15.50 BB


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Preflop: Emptyeye is SB with [Th], [Ah].
UTG calls, 2 folds, UTG calls, Button calls.

Raise with ATs. Yeah, yeah , I can't explain why I like AJ or AT but not KQ. Anyway, AT is a raise-or-fold hand to me, and I do the former here.

you were definetly right to raise

Flop: (7 SB) [2s], [4h], [Td] (3 players)
Emptyeye bets, UTG folds, Button calls.

Hit top pair and bet it.

Turn: (4.50 BB) [Jd] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, Button calls.

Bet again despite the overcard...is this too aggressive?

how would a Jack help them, your fine keep on firing until told otherwise

River: (6.50 BB) [8c] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, Button folds.

Bet one more time and take it down.
Final Pot: 7.50 BB

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Preflop: Emptyeye is CO with [7s], [7c].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls.

Too aggressive with the sevens? They are a Hellmuth Top-10 Hand after all... laugh.gif

nope. I make this play too.

Flop: (5.40 SB) [9s], [4c], [Th] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Emptyeye bets, UTG+1 folds.

Bet the (Suboptimal) flop and take it down. Not sure what I would've done had I gotten called here.

you fire again if they check to you, that's what you do

Final Pot: 3.20 BB


How NOT to play an OESD:

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Preflop: Emptyeye is Button with [9d], [Td].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (6.40 SB) [Js], [8d], [4h] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, CO calls, Emptyeye calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

umm, why no free card riase?

Turn: (6.20 BB) [2c] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, CO folds, Emptyeye calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (9.20 BB) [9c] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP1 bets, Emptyeye calls, UTG folds.

I should definitely have raised at some point here, though I'm not sure where. I hit the 9 on the river and crying-call, praying that it's good.
Final Pot: 11.20 BB

And here's how NOT to play pocket jacks:

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Preflop: Emptyeye is Button with [Jd], [Jh].
1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) [5c], [9d], [9s] (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Emptyeye calls.


You must raise this and call the threebet and look to fold teh turn if bet at again


Turn: (7.70 BB) [Td] (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls, Emptyeye calls.

River: (10.70 BB) [Ad] (3 players)
BB bets, CO calls, Emptyeye calls.

I figured BB had the third nine pretty much the whole time. I chased my two-outer the whole way, and then was priced into the river call when I missed. One day I'll learn how to play Jacks when I miss. Realistically, what I should have done was either raise on the flop to see where I was at or simply fold to the bet and 18 calls before me.
Final Pot: 13.70 BB

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Preflop: Emptyeye is BB with [Jc], [Th].
UTG calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Emptyeye checks.

I like free flops.

Flop: (6 SB) [8c], [Td], [Kd] (6 players)
SB checks, Emptyeye bets, UTG folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds.

This is what I mean when I talk about being aggressive in the right spots. whenever I hit a marginal piece of the flop in a blind, I'll bet it, and usually continue to do so right up until the river. Second pair with a paint overcard on the board isn't very good, but I bet it anyway.

Turn: (4 BB) [9s] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls.

And now I bet my straight draw.

River: (6 BB) [Kc] (2 players)
Emptyeye checks, MP2 bets, Emptyeye calls.

And miss said draw, again crying-calling and praying I'm good.

Final Pot: 8 BB

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Preflop: Emptyeye is UTG with [Kc], [Kd].
Emptyeye raises.

Obvious preflop raise.

Flop: (5.40 SB) [Ts], [Ac], [Qc] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls.

Turn: (3.70 BB) [3s] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls.

River: (5.70 BB) [7h] (2 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 calls.

I bet it all the way despite the ace on the flop. Overly aggressive, or correct given that I met no resistance along the way?

nope fine
Final Pot: 7.70 BB

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Preflop: Emptyeye is BB with [4s], [6c].
1 fold, SB completes, Emptyeye checks.

I'll take a free look at the flop.

Flop: (4 SB) [7h], [5h], [3h] (4 players)
SB checks, Emptyeye bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, SB folds.

Uh-oh. I hit my straight on a 3-suited board. I bet out, figuring that's the only way to know for sure where I'm at (And I don't want any one-card flushes getting free draws). I think I'm good with the calls...

Turn: (3.50 BB) [9c] (3 players)
Emptyeye bets, MP2 folds, Emptyeye calls.

Damn. Bet it again and get raised, and immediately realize I walked right into a trap (That, or UTG+1 has balls of steel).

River: (7.50 BB) [7c] (2 players)
Emptyeye checks, UTG+1 bets, Emptyeye calls.

And check-call the river. I'll break general board practice here and tell you that he did, in fact, flop the flush (Ace-high no less). After the hand, I told him "nicely played", and actually meant it--if he raises the flop, as most of us would do, I pretty confidently drop my straight right there. By waiting until the turn to check/raise, he effectively hooked me into the rest of the hand.
Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Thoughts? Analysis? "Shut up u sux"s?
NormanHaupt
[quote=wrto4556]

I figured BB had the third nine pretty much the whole time. I chased my two-outer the whole way, and then was priced into the river call when I missed. One day I'll learn how to play Jacks when I miss. Realistically, what I should have done was either raise on the flop to see where I was at or simply fold to the bet and 18 calls before me.
Final Pot: 13.70 BB[/quote]

You got to raise this flop, bro. The hand would be much easier to play with the info given from a raise.[/quote]


How do you figure raising on the end of the line gives you information? Those fish in the middle are gonna call since they already have cash in the pot- unless you mean the aggressor either calling or reraising.. duh, ignore, I just woke up.
Emptyeye
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Emptyeye wrote:
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Preflop: Emptyeye is Button with [Ac], [Qh].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Emptyeye raises, 1 fold, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Raise the AQ.

Flop: (6.40 SB) [Th], [Kh], [Kc] (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Emptyeye bets, BB folds, MP1 folds.

Not exactly a flop I wanted to see, but I fire at it mainly because I raised preflop. Apparently it scared everyone else as much as it scared me.
Final Pot: 3.70BB


Nice play. What do you do when you are called?


If I get called? Probably fire again on the turn (Particularly if I hit my ace and/or queen). The third king probably raises me here with two hearts on board (Unless he's got a full house of some kind or the unlikely quads), in which case I either fold or call the raise and check/fold the turn. A call tells me that a king is likely not out there, so all my overs and the gutshot draw (At best; at worst it would be the non-heart overs/gutshot) are more than likely good.

As far as the hand where I flopped the straight on the 3-suited board, 3-betting the turn is an interesting idea, but like I said, I figured (And was correct, though I know I shouldn't base all my play on the fact I was correct this one time) I had walked into the flush when he raised there. This was fairly early in the session, and I had seen nothing that would indicate to me he would try a c/r with something like 2-pair or a set, especially on a board like that.

Thanks for the input everyone. Thus far most of it seems to agree with my hindsight analysis, which is good (Even if the play at the time wasn't; I'm still annoyed over the way I played the Jacks). So thus far I know I need to work on aggression and playing KQ. Obviously it varies from situation to situation, but the one sentence summary would be to treat KQ like I do AT or AJ, correct?
Absolute
Treat KQs more like you would AJo. than A10
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