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KDawgCometh
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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [8 icon_suit_heart.gif ], [8 icon_suit_diamond.gif ].
2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) [8 icon_suit_spade.gif ], [7 icon_suit_spade.gif ], [3 icon_suit_diamond.gif ] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) [K icon_suit_spade.gif ] (3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (13.50 BB) [J icon_suit_diamond.gif ] (3 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB


reads: sb: is utter crap. He is generally a calling station(I had seen him call three cold only to fold the flop with no riase). He doesn't neccessarily have the flush draw, but I did wonder with how he played this hand.

BB: solid TAGtype playerwho was capable of making a play at a pot. He norlmally played good cards and considering on the fact that he was at the table for at the most 40 hands I definetly needed to show him respect.

should I have raised the turn or was I right to call it down
Emptyeye
From what I see, raise the turn, call a 3-bet. It's possible SB is on the draw, but calling stations don't usually wake up like that on just a draw; I'm guessing he hit two pair or MAYBE an underset on the flop (If he really is a calling station like you say).
wrto4556
If the SB is passive he's not raising on a flush draw...it's too advanced for him.

Pop it up on the turn and see what happens.

I also don't like the raise preflop. Limp in and get more money in the pot.
Absolute
I think the raise PF is based entirely on the mood of the table. I think there are situations in which raising 8-8 from this position is more profitable than limping with it. IIRC, I think this is a hand Sklansky talks about specifically in regards to its PF play in early position. Ill trust KDawg made a good judgment about the table in this case.



I am curious about how either of you feel about C/R the flop here. Would it not usually be for an extra couple bets against a PF aggressor who is TAG behind you?

Raising the turn seems better (to see where you are), but I am a little bit drunk and probably see a lot of situations as betting ones at this point. I'm curious to hear why you think just calling here is better.
DCWildcat
This is a stupid question, but what do you mean by "TAG?"
XXEddie
not too many people are going to cap w/ a flush draw, raise the turn
wrto4556
QUOTE (XXEddie)
not too many people are going to cap w/ a flush draw, raise the turn


Correction: Not too many bad people are goingto cap with a flush draw. I cap every time if I have an equity edge.
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