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SuitedAces21
Anyone else gonna see this tommorow?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/
keith crime
totally psyched for it
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (keith crime @ Thursday, October 5th, 2006, 8:03 AM) *
totally psyched for it


Me too. I'm a little worried that Leo wont be able to pull it off, but even if thats true, the rest of the cast will make up for him.
Ron_Mexico
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Thursday, October 5th, 2006, 12:07 PM) *
Me too. I'm a little worried that Leo wont be able to pull it off, but even if thats true, the rest of the cast will make up for him.


At least he has Marky Mark to make him look good.


should be a good movie.

I haven't been to the movies in nearly 2 years, and even I'll go see this.
KDawgCometh
I'm definetly looking forward to it as its a remake of one of my favorite films( Infernal Affairs). I have no doubt that I will be happy with the end result
_OutKicked_
I can hardly wait. I'm expecting to have to get there early.
runthemover
Infernal Affairs is awesome. this almost certainly will be as well. the only thing that sucks is the earliest show at the movie theatre I go to is 1145
brvheart
Just saw it.

:Thumbs up Face:
runthemover
yea it was berry good. I'm not sure if I like infernal affairs more or not. I'll have to digest this for a while
powerpoker
QUOTE (runthemover @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 7:50 PM) *
yea it was berry good. I'm not sure if I like infernal affairs more or not. I'll have to digest this for a while

thought it was great, everyone put on a solid performance
JMoney2681
QUOTE (powerpoker @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 8:34 PM) *
thought it was great, everyone put on a solid performance

The movie was awesome. Good acting, good story line, good everything. Leo pulled it off well. Damon seemed to play a good "slime ball" character. Nicholson is just Nicholson. *thumbs up*
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (runthemover @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 9:50 PM) *
yea it was berry good. I'm not sure if I like infernal affairs more or not. I'll have to digest this for a while



yea, this is my take too. I think that I need to see it again because I was comparing it way too much to IA when watching it, and while its a remake, there are some significant differences between them. THough all of the key plot points are there
JMoney2681
QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 8:53 PM) *
yea, this is my take too. I think that I need to see it again because I was comparing it way too much to IA when watching it, and while its a remake, there are some significant differences between them. THough all of the key plot points are there


Internal Affairs? I think I know what I am watching tonight. Thanks fellas. And I don't think it will be as good as The Departed, but I will see.
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (JMoney2681 @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 10:58 PM) *
Internal Affairs? I think I know what I am watching tonight. Thanks fellas. And I don't think it will be as good as The Departed, but I will see.


well, one thing to remember about IA is that its actually a three part series, but, the departed was a remake of IA. IA is already a legendary Hong Kong film, and it was only released like 4 or 5 years ago
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 9:03 PM) *
well, one thing to remember about IA is that its actually a three part series, but, the departed was a remake of IA. IA is already a legendary Hong Kong film, and it was only released like 4 or 5 years ago

hmmm I'll have to check it out....

Also, Leo is a fine actor... just because an actor is super famous, doesn't mean he's an Affleck. He's a great actor who makes great choices in roles/dirrectors to work with.
JMoney2681
QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 9:03 PM) *
well, one thing to remember about IA is that its actually a three part series, but, the departed was a remake of IA. IA is already a legendary Hong Kong film, and it was only released like 4 or 5 years ago

The one with Gere and Baldwin right? That is the one to watch right? It's a 3 part series!?
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (JMoney2681 @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 11:20 PM) *
The one with Gere and Baldwin right? That is the one to watch right? It's a 3 part series!?



how do you get Gere and Baldwin from me pointing out that its from Hong Kong? No, it has Andy Lau(from house of flying daggers) and Tony Leung(from hero and in the mood for love) in the roles that Damon and Leo played respectively. Nicholson did a much better job then Eric Tsang, which was just to be expected as Nicholson is one of the greatest actors of all time


edit: I just noticed that you thought it was internal affairs. No, its called Infernal affairs
JMoney2681
QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 9:29 PM) *
how do you get Gere and Baldwin from me pointing out that its from Hong Kong? No, it has Andy Lau(from house of flying daggers) and Tony Leung(from hero and in the mood for love) in the roles that Damon and Leo played respectively. Nicholson did a much better job then Eric Tsang, which was just to be expected as Nicholson is one of the greatest actors of all time
edit: I just noticed that you thought it was internal affairs. No, its called Infernal affairs

LMAO! Oh INFERNAL AFFAIRS

I typed in internal affairs, saw something about a "cop" in the description and thought that was it, lol.
runthemover
QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 9:03 PM) *
well, one thing to remember about IA is that its actually a three part series, but, the departed was a remake of IA. IA is already a legendary Hong Kong film, and it was only released like 4 or 5 years ago

JMoney it actually is Infernal Affairs not internal. It's a play on the infernal nature of the situation both characters are in.

somehow when I first watched them a few years ago my friends let me watch 2 then 1 then 3. for those not in the know, 2 is a prequel. And, in my opinon 2 is on par (if not better!) than the original.

I'd need to watch departed again but I think I like Frank Costello as the villain better than Sam . Sam is more comedic (although I think the actor usually plays comedic roles?) than Frank.

As usual Alec Baldwin was good. Everytime I see this guy he gets more respect from me.
JMoney2681
QUOTE (runthemover @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 9:41 PM) *
JMoney it actually is Infernal Affairs not internal. It's a play on the infernal nature of the situation both characters are in.

somehow when I first watched them a few years ago my friends let me watch 2 then 1 then 3. for those not in the know, 2 is a prequel. And, in my opinon 2 is on par (if not better!) than the original.

I'd need to watch departed again but I think I like Frank Costello as the villain better than Sam . Sam is more comedic (although I think the actor usually plays comedic roles?) than Frank.

As usual Alec Baldwin was good. Everytime I see this guy he gets more respect from me.

Well no one could play the Frank Costello character any better than Nicholson. So there are 3 parts to Infernal Affair? Geeze, can I rent them at a block buster or am I screwed?
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (runthemover @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 11:41 PM) *
I'd need to watch departed again but I think I like Frank Costello as the villain better than Sam . Sam is more comedic (although I think the actor usually plays comedic roles?) than Frank.



I definetly agree with this. Frank was very scary and you fully believed him as a typical american mob boss. I don't know how the triads work in Hong Kong and mainland china, so its hard to say. Maybe a guy like sam becomes the boss because of his cunning and wit as opposed to brute force scariness. Damon was great, but he didn't have the smugness or entitlement that Andy Lau had in IA and that was kinda missing for me. Damon seemed more rough around the edges whereas Andy Lau was smooth and suave
runthemover
Just in case, there are SPOILERS in almost all posts below so don't come complaining. I mean why would u open a thread about a movie you haven't seen in the first place but yea.

QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 9:48 PM) *
I definetly agree with this. Frank was very scary and you fully believed him as a typical american mob boss. I don't know how the triads work in Hong Kong and mainland china, so its hard to say. Maybe a guy like sam becomes the boss because of his cunning and wit as opposed to brute force scariness. Damon was great, but he didn't have the smugness or entitlement that Andy Lau had in IA and that was kinda missing for me. Damon seemed more rough around the edges whereas Andy Lau was smooth and suave

to me damon didnt seem to have as much of the duality that andy lau had. Andy lau really seemed to struggle with his situation. where he was trying to be a good guy (remember that scene with the wife writing her book not knowing what type of guy her character was). either way they are both bad guys.

I definitely agree with Sam being more cunning and smart (This is really shown in IA2) whereas Frank was just relentless as the departed showed by what he did to stay in power. "in the old days we would just kill everybody: and his affiliation with the FBI

QUOTE (JMoney2681 @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 9:45 PM) *
Well no one could play the Frank Costello character any better than Nicholson. So there are 3 parts to Infernal Affair? Geeze, can I rent them at a block buster or am I screwed?

well 1 and 2 are on DVD. I got them on netflix last month to re-watch before the departed came out. I don't think #3 is on dvd yet, I originally watched a downloaded divx version so I'm sure you can find it somewhere
JMoney2681
QUOTE (runthemover @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 9:59 PM) *
well 1 and 2 are on DVD. I got them on netflix last month to re-watch before the departed came out. I don't think #3 is on dvd yet, I originally watched a downloaded divx version but I'm sure you can find it somewhere

Ah, I see, ty sir.
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (runthemover @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 11:59 PM) *
to me damon didnt seem to have as much of the duality that andy lau had. Andy lau really seemed to struggle with his situation. where he was trying to be a good guy (remember that scene with the wife writing her book not knowing what type of guy her character was). either way they are both bad guys.



MORE SPOILERS FOR THOSE THAT ACTUALLY THINK GOING INTO A THREAD ABOUT A FILM WILL NOT HAVE SPOILERS, and there are spoilers about infernal affairs here too

I think part of the biggest problem of the Damon/Lau situation was that Damon and Leo were both trying to get the same girl while Lau had his own girl and Leung had his situations with his ex(woefully no info on her at all, and from what I've heard, none in either of the sequels) and his odd realtionship with the shrink. I think part of that was that Scorsese didn't need to have leo mention that he was a cop since Wahlberg's character obviously knew, while in IA both of the guys who knew his identity were dead by the end of the film. But with Yan telling the shrink that he was a cop was a key point IMO as it still showed that he was always a good guy and you didn't have Leo constantly reminding us about that, while you have Damon reminding us constantly about the fact that he had always been working for the other side.

Damon's non grappling also bothered me, but that was also his character as he was a rough kid from the neighborhood while Lau's character was reluctant to be a cop in teh first place. What did work was the shock though at the end with Leo's and Leung's character's being killed as the entire theater gasped when that happened just like I gasped when Leung was killed. It was probably hard for me to watch that as i knew what was going to happen, so that major point for me was taken away. I'm a little drunk right now, so I'm basically rambling at this point
runthemover
totally agree with your post. the only thing shocking to me was that he was killed at the bottom of the elevator
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (runthemover @ Saturday, October 7th, 2006, 12:20 AM) *
totally agree with your post. the only thing shocking to me was that he was killed at the bottom of the elevator



yea, that was kinda weird. It took away from a little added suspense of having them both team together and the other guy telling him that he was a bit of a failure in the boss' mind. What I like about IA was that you didn't see the death there at the end, u saw the aftermath and heard the shot,but I think that also goes into how Andy Lau was working his character as this suave and slimy dude whereas Damon was a toughass
keith crime
Just saw it and i;m confused by some stuff

what was the symbolism of the gold dome about?

why did Alec Baldwin put his face in a bunch of ice water at one point

why would they stick leo in there when they already had a cop in there - and did he give leo the wrong address on purpose?

the girl knew leo was a cop as that was part of his deal right? I just wasn't sure if she was seeing him as a cop or as a con.

I also didn't get how the other rat in the police force knew about Damon if he didn't know about him since nicholson was dead

I really enjoyed it but it sort of didn't make sense at the end - I'm not even quite sure why Damon would be so upset to find out that Nicholson was an FBI mole. However that is something that Baldwin's character should have known - ok now none of it makes sense to me

help
Ron_Mexico
saw the movie, I enjoyed it.

again, I'm not really a deep thinker so I can't go into motive, theory or anything else. I just know I enjoyed it.


as to Keith, he was irritated that Jack was an FBI mole because he knew that he'd eventually give him up to save his own hide. Just a guess
ripptyde
nobody has mentioned Mark Wahlbergs performance. He stole every scene he was in. hilarious and his last appearance in the movie was a nice twist.
CrackofmyACE
QUOTE
Wahlberg almost steals the film as a pit bull of a Statie -- every time he shows up you start grinning -- and Nicholson does steal everything that's not nailed down. Frank Costello could be Jack Torrance from ``The Shining" given a new lease on life and scraped clean of all human scruple. He's a joyfully vulgar psycho, a creature of pure id. You don't try to understand this guy -- as someone says, quoting Sigmund Freud, the Irish ``are the only people impervious to psychoanalysis" -- you just run like hell.
- Ty Burr (Boston Globe)


I like the sound of this one.

I've refrained from reading this thread until after I see this tonight.... if all goes well with my date I won't get to read it til tommorrow.
Suited_Up
I saw it yesterday, and now that you mention it Keith....

Some of that doesn't really make sense to me either.

But I can answer a few things... Alec Baldwin with the ice... I think it was just part of his quirky character. Which I love when he plays those roles.

The girl didn't know he was a cop. She was dating him thinking he was an ex cop/ ex-con... not knowing about his relationship with nicholson though either. I think it was a very don't ask, don't tell relationship.

As for the other rat in the police (I know him as Chase Edmonds).... but I can't figure that one out either.



Anyway... I still think the movie was awesome.

and Mark Wahlberg is the man!
runthemover
QUOTE (Suited_Up @ Sunday, October 8th, 2006, 11:18 PM) *
As for the other rat in the police (I know him as Chase Edmonds).... but I can't figure that one out either.

I didn't get how chase had his hand back, but that's another story. To be serious for a moment, earlier in the movie when Damon is using the pay phone, Chase (I totally forgot his character's name or the actor's name) sees him coming out.

I think we are to assume that either Chase figures out something is fishy with Damon, why the hell are you in a pay phone if you have a cell? or (more likely) that Chase knows about Damon from Frank (remember the line: "You think you were the only one" and was possibly told about this to backup/keep tabs on Damon
JMoney2681
QUOTE (ripptyde @ Sunday, October 8th, 2006, 1:13 PM) *
nobody has mentioned Mark Wahlbergs performance. He stole every scene he was in. hilarious and his last appearance in the movie was a nice twist.

I'm sorry, usually the word "twist" when used to describe an event in a movie, means that it is something "unexpected." If you didn't know Damon was getting snuffed at the end, you're slow. If you actually believed Damon was living, then I got some things to sell you. (And no, prior to The Departed, I did not watch "Infernal Affairs") It was just pretty obvious to me. It was also pretty obvious that Leo was going to die at the end too. I just have a great feel for where movies are going. I didn't know that the black guy was going to die, but I knew Leo and Damon would. And I also knew that as soon as Shane said, "What, you think you're the only one? We gotta stick together," I said to myself, "Great, now you're dead too." I just know these things...Obvious to me.

QUOTE (runthemover @ Sunday, October 8th, 2006, 11:25 PM) *
Chase knows about Damon from Frank (remember the line: "You think you were the only one" and was possibly told about this to backup/keep tabs on Damon

Exactly. He knew about Damon.

QUOTE (keith crime @ Saturday, October 7th, 2006, 11:40 PM) *
I also didn't get how the other rat in the police force knew about Damon if he didn't know about him since nicholson was dead

This is the part that got me too. If Shane, lol, knew that Damon was a "bad" guy, then how did Damon not know that Shane was a "bad" bad guy too? Small leak, but a great freaking film.
keith crime
So what's with the Golden Dome?
Petoria
QUOTE (JMoney2681 @ Monday, October 9th, 2006, 3:44 AM) *
I'm sorry, usually the word "twist" when uses to describe an event in a movie, means that it is something "unexpected." If you didn't know Damon was getting snuffed at the end, you're slow. If you actually believed Damon was living, then I got some things to sell you. (And no, prior to The Departed, I did not watch "Infernal Affairs") It was just pretty obvious to me. It was also pretty obvious that Leo was going to die at the end too. I just have a great feel for where movies are going. I didn't know that the black guy was going to die, but I knew Leo and Damon would. And I also knew that as soon as Shane said, "What, you think you're the only one? We gotta stick together," I said to myself, "Great, now you're dead too." I just know these things...Obvious to me.


Ok, I walk out to get a popcord refill, and two bitches are talking about how surprised they were that Leo got shot at the end. I was pissed.
Suited_Up
QUOTE (Petoria @ Monday, October 9th, 2006, 10:34 AM) *
Ok, I walk out to get a popcord refill, and two bitches are talking about how surprised they were that Leo got shot at the end. I was pissed.


Get a bigger popcorn.

And if you need a refill after that.... then stop being a fatty. wink.gif
JMoney2681
QUOTE (Petoria @ Monday, October 9th, 2006, 8:34 AM) *
Ok, I walk out to get a popcord refill, and two bitches are talking about how surprised they were that Leo got shot at the end. I was pissed.

How the hell could you leave during the last 20 minutes of a suspense movie like this one? I had to piss like a race horse after downing a large Sierra Mist, but I hung in there until the end like a champ.
CardWarfare
QUOTE (JMoney2681 @ Monday, October 9th, 2006, 10:35 PM) *
How the hell could you leave during the last 20 minutes of a suspense movie like this one? I had to piss like a race horse after downing a large Sierra Mist, but I hung in there until the end like a champ.

After I saw this movie the first time, I pissed for literally 1.5 minutes straight. I was looking at my watch. I had to go so bad throughout the entire thing but refused to get up. I was either going to hold it, or sit in my own urine for the rest of the movie.



That said, I saw this for the second time tonight, and I have to say I enjoyed it more. I caught a lot of things that I didn't catch the first time, I didn't feel as if my bladder was going to rupture, and I was seeing it with a female prospect.

Good night, great movie.
JoeyJoJo
I thoroughly enjoyed this movie and all the characters in it. I plan on seeing it again.

For those who have seen Infernal Affairs, should I check that out now while The Departed is still fresh in my mind or would it be better to wait a few months?
JMoney2681
QUOTE (CardWarfare @ Tuesday, October 10th, 2006, 12:35 AM) *
After I saw this movie the first time, I pissed for literally 1.5 minutes straight. I was looking at my watch. I had to go so bad throughout the entire thing but refused to get up. I was either going to hold it, or sit in my own urine for the rest of the movie.
That said, I saw this for the second time tonight, and I have to say I enjoyed it more. I caught a lot of things that I didn't catch the first time, I didn't feel as if my bladder was going to rupture, and I was seeing it with a female prospect.

Good night, great movie.

Thanks for the advice, I think I'm going to see it again with my lady today.
runthemover
QUOTE (JoeyJoJo @ Tuesday, October 10th, 2006, 9:15 AM) *
I thoroughly enjoyed this movie and all the characters in it. I plan on seeing it again.

For those who have seen Infernal Affairs, should I check that out now while The Departed is still fresh in my mind or would it be better to wait a few months?

I'm not sure this question can be answered. I saw IA a couple years ago and made sure to rewatch the first two before watching the departed. I'm not sure that waiting would do anything.

Well you know what I changed my mind this is the answer. you should watch IA cuz it's a good movie then you should watch IA2 (it's a prequel just as good as the original IMO)
JMoney2681
So anyway, what's up with the Gold Dome? It has to do with his childhood with Frank?
keith crime
And it took me a while to finally, we took a while on that shot, ultimately it's the nature of, it's, well, without giving out the story, it's what's in the beginning of the frame and then as the rat is revealed, it's the image of the statehouse itself, the gold dome, the sense of, for me, well, a throwback of the old gangster genre films at the end of Scarface, “the world is yours”, which is a shot, Tony Montana is shot in the street, there's a shot, a shot of a sign in the movie that says the world is yours, globe, I think the end of Little Caesar is the same way, so for me, or the end of “White Heat”, on the top of the world, well the top of the world to him was that Beacon Hill and in a sense the gold dome of the statehouse was it near it, represents that, but it also represents that for me as the film developed a sense of paranoia and betrayal and one person never knowing who the other person is or what the other person is doing or if you can believe anybody and it kind of reflects the world know, the America that we know now, post September 11th. And so all those elements are in there, but first on an entertainment level as a reference back to the old gangster genre.


Damon: I was also going to say that it's also like the end of The Hard Way. Times Square and they're running around. A lot of neon.

Monahan: Well, what I was thinking at first was that after such an intense bloody ending, we could go out with a little bit of a joke on the simplest level. There's also the idea of the rat behind the wall of Colin's supposedly perfect world. And it was made to work. It worked beautifully, I think.
CardWarfare
Did anyone else get a lil chub when "Comfortably Numb" kicked in?
JMoney2681
QUOTE (CardWarfare @ Thursday, October 12th, 2006, 1:27 AM) *
Did anyone else get a lil chub when "Comfortably Numb" kicked in?

I wont lie, I'm guilty lol. I'm not a huge fan of Pink Floyd, but I do love that song, and it just fits so well in the movie.
myenemy
This move ****ing ruled!!!!!!!!!
CrackofmyACE
few things I picked up on...

- when we first meet Matt Damon as a kid he is leaving the local variety store in Southie with a bag of groceries Costello made the storeowner give him.....he has groceries in his arms when he gets capped in the final scene, full of similar food products: milk, bread etc

- During the classroom scene in the beginning when they're learning patterns of gunshot wounds, the instructor is describing what a bullet to the head will do to the brain etc... in terms of the spray effect the contents would have ... just about everyone gets his head blown off at the end... coincidence? ha

- Paraphrasing Costello in the beginning ... "they tell ya you either grow up to be a cop or a criminal... but I ask this: When you're facing a loaded gun, is there really a difference?" ...... foreshadows the crazy ending where noone really knows who is who for sure

just my .02
JMoney2681
QUOTE (CrackofmyACE @ Thursday, October 12th, 2006, 10:05 PM) *
few things I picked up on...

- when we first meet Matt Damon as a kid he is leaving the local variety store in Southie with a bag of groceries Costello made the storeowner give him.....he has groceries in his arms when he gets capped in the final scene, full of similar food products: milk, bread etc

Good observation, didn't catch that one.
CardWarfare
QUOTE (keith crime @ Wednesday, October 11th, 2006, 8:02 PM) *
And it took me a while to finally, we took a while on that shot, ultimately it's the nature of, it's, well, without giving out the story, it's what's in the beginning of the frame and then as the rat is revealed, it's the image of the statehouse itself, the gold dome, the sense of, for me, well, a throwback of the old gangster genre films at the end of Scarface, “the world is yours”, which is a shot, Tony Montana is shot in the street, there's a shot, a shot of a sign in the movie that says the world is yours, globe, I think the end of Little Caesar is the same way, so for me, or the end of “White Heat”, on the top of the world, well the top of the world to him was that Beacon Hill and in a sense the gold dome of the statehouse was it near it, represents that, but it also represents that for me as the film developed a sense of paranoia and betrayal and one person never knowing who the other person is or what the other person is doing or if you can believe anybody and it kind of reflects the world know, the America that we know now, post September 11th. And so all those elements are in there, but first on an entertainment level as a reference back to the old gangster genre.


Damon: I was also going to say that it's also like the end of The Hard Way. Times Square and they're running around. A lot of neon.

Monahan: Well, what I was thinking at first was that after such an intense bloody ending, we could go out with a little bit of a joke on the simplest level. There's also the idea of the rat behind the wall of Colin's supposedly perfect world. And it was made to work. It worked beautifully, I think.



I've read and re-read the bolded part several times and I still don't think I'm getting it all. It must be a quote of someone speaking, and speaking either while doing something else or shooting heroin, because the speech is really broken and it's making it difficult to pick up on everything said..

Or maybe I'm retarded.
keith crime
it's scorcese he's basically saying that the apartment with the view of the gold dome was symbolic to damon's character of making it
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