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bdc30
Just wonder what the official company line is or will be now that
Party and Stars have basically come out and said they will not be
doing business with U.S. residents shortly?
Big Mike Watters
I would like to know what Ongame is gonna do as well. And sooner, rather than later. If I'm gonna get screwed out of the Classic, I don't want to wait around to find out.
krup24
Bob, a quick response here would be appreciated.
FCP Bob
I'll give a quick response as Krup has requested. These are my own personal feelings.

In the short term nothing has changed and the new legislation to my understanding doesn't change whether playing poker is legal or not for Americans.

There's a 270 day time period for the banking industry to comply with the regulations and they are strongly opposed to this.

We don't know what the fallout will be but the On Game Network has a much higher percentage of non-American players then most of the other large sites do.

To my knowledge the current plan for both FCP and the ON Game Network is to continue to allow Americans to play but I haven't heard anything officially.
Waffles2003
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Monday, October 2nd, 2006, 1:20 AM) *
Just wonder what the official company line is or will be now that
Party and Stars have basically come out and said they will not be
doing business with U.S. residents shortly?

where did u read this? i havent received anything from stars regarding this.
Big Mike Watters
There are links in a couple of other threads. Party is confirmed pretty much. Stars...only what was on gambling911.com or something.
GamblinLeaf
QUOTE (Big Mike Watters @ Monday, October 2nd, 2006, 11:20 AM) *
There are links in a couple of other threads. Party is confirmed pretty much. Stars...only what was on gambling911.com or something.


Party has made it official with a filing they made with the London Stock Exchange this morning, stating that they would withdraw their U.S. business when the bill is signed.

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/LSECWS/...&source=RNS


Pacific also made it official: sad.gif

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15095619/


Stars has not made an official decision yet. Lee Jones made a post this morning at PocketFives stating the following:

http://www.pocketfives.com/9FEF5CAC-8289-4...AFCD5B87B0.aspx


Paradise/SportingBet initially indicated that they were going to follow 888.com's lead, but they have since gone back on that, deciding instead to stay in the U.S. market until further notice:

http://www.gambling911.com/Online-Poker-Pa...ker-100206.html


I have been looking, but have been unable to find any official word or notice from anyone at OnGame.

It appears that UB, WSEX, Bodog and Absolute are staying in the U.S. market no matter what.

FWIW, I deposited and played at both UB and Paradise this morning with no problems.
Big Mike Watters
The poker sites that come out and say they are staying in the US will reap the benefits like no other. How many players are gonna be shut out at Party, Pacific, and 888.com? MILLIONS.

I WANT TO HEAR SOMETHING OFFICIAL FROM ONGAME. FCP Bob said what he said...and that is cool...but in the end, it's gonna be Ongame's decision.
krup24
QUOTE (FCP Info @ Monday, October 2nd, 2006, 7:10 AM) *
I'll give a quick response as Krup has requested. These are my own personal feelings.

In the short term nothing has changed and the new legislation to my understanding doesn't change whether playing poker is legal or not for Americans.

There's a 270 day time period for the banking industry to comply with the regulations and they are strongly opposed to this.

We don't know what the fallout will be but the On Game Network has a much higher percentage of non-American players then most of the other large sites do.

To my knowledge the current plan for both FCP and the ON Game Network is to continue to allow Americans to play but I haven't heard anything officially.


Thanks Bob I appreciate it

I'm sure you'll post when you hear more
scoutertb
It is more than a little disturbing that there has been no official position from Ongame. All of the major sites have made statements to their customers. Daniel has been very quick to pop off when he feels others have been wrong about positions they have taken. How about some word from him now about his site.
bdc30
QUOTE (scoutertb @ Tuesday, October 3rd, 2006, 4:02 AM) *
It is more than a little disturbing that there has been no official position from Ongame. All of the major sites have made statements to their customers. Daniel has been very quick to pop off when he feels others have been wrong about positions they have taken. How about some word from him now about his site.


As Info posted in another thread, DN no longer "owns" Fcp.
He won't be making any policy statements on this one.

Anything we hear will have to come from ongame, and if past experience
is any indication, their statement will probably freeze and crash half way
in to them stating it...
scoutertb
While I recognize that Daniel does not “own” FCP, his name and image are the anchors of this site. Any action by Ongame will certainly reflect on his name and reputation.

Given the way he has passed judgment on other players actions and the actions of American politicians, I would have thought that he could post some statement as the “spokesman” for this site. The only statement we have from Daniel since this action is a review of his fantasy hockey draft.
FCP Bob
Here is a statment that reflects FCP's position.



Full Contact Poker is aware of the recent online gaming news coming out of Washington D.C. and remains business as usual.

The United States Congress has recently passed legislation that aims to make it illegal for U.S. banks to process transactions related to online gaming. It does not, however, change the legality of individuals playing online games such as poker. We want to assure you that the games at Full Contact Poker are still available and that you can continue to enjoy the site as always.

Full Contact Poker is legally regulated and licensed in Curacao and will continue to offer its services to anyone around the world.

Your funds are completely safe and secure and you are welcome to play with or withdraw your funds at anytime as usual.

Our highest priority is to offer you the best player service possible. If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us. If anything changes, we’ll certainly let you know.
bdc30
QUOTE (scoutertb @ Tuesday, October 3rd, 2006, 7:32 AM) *
While I recognize that Daniel does not “own” FCP, his name and image are the anchors of this site. Any action by Ongame will certainly reflect on his name and reputation.

Given the way he has passed judgment on other players actions and the actions of American politicians, I would have thought that he could post some statement as the “spokesman” for this site. The only statement we have from Daniel since this action is a review of his fantasy hockey draft.


He's already posted his thoughts and opinions on the law, in the general
forum in a thread asking if he could be charged for his involvement.
I'm sure you can find it if you look.
XX44466XX
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Tuesday, October 3rd, 2006, 5:14 AM) *
As Info posted in another thread, DN no longer "owns" Fcp.


Really? Since when?



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QUOTE (FCP Info @ Tuesday, October 3rd, 2006, 8:40 AM) *
Here is a statment that reflects FCP's position.
Full Contact Poker is aware of the recent online gaming news coming out of Washington D.C. and remains business as usual.

The United States Congress has recently passed legislation that aims to make it illegal for U.S. banks to process transactions related to online gaming. It does not, however, change the legality of individuals playing online games such as poker. We want to assure you that the games at Full Contact Poker are still available and that you can continue to enjoy the site as always.

Full Contact Poker is legally regulated and licensed in Curacao and will continue to offer its services to anyone around the world.

Your funds are completely safe and secure and you are welcome to play with or withdraw your funds at anytime as usual.

Our highest priority is to offer you the best player service possible. If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us. If anything changes, we’ll certainly let you know.

Bob, you & FCP are #1-TY.
bdc30
QUOTE (XX44466XX @ Thursday, October 5th, 2006, 12:28 AM) *
Really? Since when?
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You can put your little icon_hand.gif away there donk.

http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/about.php

About FullContactPoker.com
Our goal is to make Full Contact Poker your online poker community.

Launched in 2003 by poker professional Daniel Negreanu, www.fullcontactpoker.com has enjoyed tremendous growth largely based on Daniel's highly popular poker journal/blog and lively chat room/forum.

In December 2005, Daniel Negreanu sold the domain www.fullcontactpoker.com to Big Stack Enterprises (BSE), a Curacao corporation. He then signed a consulting agreement with BSE to help guide many new and exciting changes to FCP. BSE currently utilizes trusted and reliable software from the prestigious On Game Network, allowing FCP members to play poker against one another for play and real money.

In addition, BSE has established a stand-alone team of customer support specialists dedicated to providing FCP customers with the highest levels of customer support in the industry. FCP strives to provide the coolest online poker promotions, fantastic customer support and Full Contact with Daniel Negreanu. FCP is more than an online poker room, we are your poker community.

---pwnd.
brvheart
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Friday, October 6th, 2006, 9:22 AM) *
About FullContactPoker.com
Our goal is to make Full Contact Poker your online poker community.

Launched in 2003 by poker professional Daniel Negreanu, www.fullcontactpoker.com has enjoyed tremendous growth largely based on Daniel's highly popular poker journal/blog and lively chat room/forum.

In December 2005, Daniel Negreanu sold the domain www.fullcontactpoker.com to Big Stack Enterprises (BSE), a Curacao corporation. He then signed a consulting agreement with BSE to help guide many new and exciting changes to FCP. BSE currently utilizes trusted and reliable software from the prestigious On Game Network, allowing FCP members to play poker against one another for play and real money.

In addition, BSE has established a stand-alone team of customer support specialists dedicated to providing FCP customers with the highest levels of customer support in the industry. FCP strives to provide the coolest online poker promotions, fantastic customer support and Full Contact with Daniel Negreanu. FCP is more than an online poker room, we are your poker community.


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ROFL... prestigious... that's a good one.
jooka
http://www.bwin.ag/page.aspx?view=adhocb_13_10_06

So I assume this will include FCP?
kep1
Why haven't all of the Ongame skins given official statements or contacted their members through email yet? This is outrageous that they are keeping everyone in the dark about this issue.
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