RhinestoneCowboy
Tuesday, September 19th, 2006, 6:02 PM
Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
ConverterStack sizes:UTG: $203.50
CO: $103.55
Button: $241.55
SB: $93.40
Hero: $99
Pre-flop: (
5 players) Hero is BB with
3 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.
Flop:

(
$2, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
Turn: 
(
$2, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
River: 
(
$2, 2 players)
SB bets $2,
Hero raises to $10,
SB raises to $25, BB??.
aim786
Tuesday, September 19th, 2006, 7:35 PM
Do you really think he has JT here?
Money022
Tuesday, September 19th, 2006, 7:41 PM
Call.
GWCGWC
Tuesday, September 19th, 2006, 7:41 PM
are you asking if you call or push?
i just call here. He may have the nut str8 but he may be as weak as 2pair.
Since there was no betting to define any type of hand, no reason to get crazy with it.
just call.
Naismith
Tuesday, September 19th, 2006, 10:01 PM
I think you're leaving a lot of money on the table if you just call. I think this is much more frequently two pair than a straight and even if it's the straight, only one of the three straight possibilities beats you.
Spence
Tuesday, September 19th, 2006, 10:04 PM
Call or raise to $45-50 and fold to push. Or make a crying call, it's up to you.
I like the call more in that situation though.
RhinestoneCowboy
Wednesday, September 20th, 2006, 4:15 AM
I was the SB in the hand with J10o. The "Hero" called my raise and I was left wondering if I could've gotten more from him. The pot was very small to begin with, and he made a substantial raise on my pot sized bet. It was impossible to put him on the 2nd nuts, so I didn't think a push would work.
Given the wide range the "Hero" could hold here, was raising to 25 the correct amount?
For the record, I probobly go broke on that hand. I was hoping that the average .5/1 would do the same to double me up..
Scott3705
Wednesday, September 20th, 2006, 4:20 AM
QUOTE (RhinestoneCowboy @ Wednesday, September 20th, 2006, 4:15 AM)

I was the SB in the hand with J10o. The "Hero" called my raise and I was left wondering if I could've gotten more from him. The pot was very small to begin with, and he made a substantial raise on my pot sized bet. It was impossible to put him on the 2nd nuts, so I didn't think a push would work.
Given the wide range the "Hero" could hold here, was raising to 25 the correct amount?
For the record, I probobly go broke on that hand. I was hoping that the average .5/1 would do the same to double me up..
Isn't that just a standard reraising amount. 2.5x's the bet? You basically announced you have a big hand, so you'd like to get two pair hands to still be enticed to call.
You probably should. I think he leaves a ton of money in the pot by not reraising.
lastly, bet the flop.
RhinestoneCowboy
Wednesday, September 20th, 2006, 5:02 AM
Bet the flop?
I've got a lot to learn about this game. I don't go after a lot of 2bb pots with nothing. When it is a battle of the blinds I am usually very weak and fold anything less that TP as to not get involved in a big pot with a marginal hand and no information on the opponents holdings...
Should I have popped it to 40 to try to make it look more like a bluff?
Scott3705
Wednesday, September 20th, 2006, 5:16 AM
QUOTE (RhinestoneCowboy @ Wednesday, September 20th, 2006, 5:02 AM)

Bet the flop?
I've got a lot to learn about this game. I don't go after a lot of 2bb pots with nothing. When it is a battle of the blinds I am usually very weak and fold anything less that TP as to not get involved in a big pot with a marginal hand and no information on the opponents holdings...
I agree with you that I rarely call w/ second pair in a battle of the blinds cause I don't like getting involved, but it's easy not to get involved when you have absolutely nothing.
QUOTE
Should I have popped it to 40 to try to make it look more like a bluff?
Betting a lot no longer looks like a bluff to anyone. It looks like a desperation value bet from a huge hand.
RhinestoneCowboy
Wednesday, September 20th, 2006, 5:31 AM
Raise to 25, Raise to 40, Push?
DonkSlayer
Wednesday, September 20th, 2006, 5:49 AM
Listen to Scott.
And, just call. J10 beats you. People that are advocating raising, because "there's a lot of money left on the table if you call"...
If we re-raise, are we getting called with 2 pair often enough that it makes the move +Ev against a chop/loss to J10?
Scott3705
Wednesday, September 20th, 2006, 6:30 AM
QUOTE (RhinestoneCowboy @ Wednesday, September 20th, 2006, 5:31 AM)

Raise to 25, Raise to 40, Push?
Push probably gets a fold from the second nuts here. Again, don't get hung up on the amount $25 is the right bet, possibly 30. Anything more, and people start folding big hands. If this player is capable of just calling your raise, he is capable of folding two pair to a bigger raise.
Peak01
Wednesday, September 20th, 2006, 10:56 AM
I'm just calling here. I agree with Scott and bet here on the flop.
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