DonkSlayer
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:44 AM
So, if I acknowledge the Christ died for my sins and that he is the son of God, but don't really like him or God, do I still get into heaven?
If I'm a Muslim, is it like Judaism where Heaven is the sum of faithfullness and good works, or is there something offerred by God or something I can do to assure salvation?
Do Hindus and Buddhists just get re-incarnated a brazillion times or is there an eventual Nirvana? If there is, why do we have repeated incarnations of the Dalai Lama?
SHYTCAKES this was supposed to be in religion. Requested a thread move.
Fred Sanford
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:49 AM
Jus look upata da sky ata good Loard an sey
Elizabeth!!!! Ima commin ta joinya honey!!!!
he let ya right in
GWCGWC
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:53 AM
It's based on faith.
Canuckickstan
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:55 AM
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 11:44 AM)

SHYTCAKES this was supposed to be in religion. Requested a thread move.
Straight to hell !!!
ajs510
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:56 AM
Richmond, VA US
Revise | New Directions
Heaven Heights, MA US
Revise | New Directions
Total Est. Time: 9 hours, 42 minutes
Total Est. Distance: 557.98 miles
1: Start out going SOUTHWEST on N ALLEN AVE toward PARK AVE. <0.1 miles Map
2: Make a U-TURN at PARK AVE onto N ALLEN AVE. <0.1 miles Map
3: Enter next roundabout and take 1st exit onto MONUMENT AVE. Pass through 1 roundabout. 0.8 miles Map
4: Turn RIGHT onto N BOULEVARD / VA-161. 1.2 miles Map
5: Merge onto I-95 N via the ramp on the LEFT. 91.1 miles Map
6: Merge onto I-395 N via EXIT 170A-B toward WASHINGTON / I-495 / TYSONS CORNER. 1.1 miles Map
7: Merge onto I-495 N / CAPITAL BELTWAY via EXIT 170B toward TYSONS CORNER (Crossing into MARYLAND). 29.8 miles Map
8: Merge onto I-95 N via EXIT 27 toward BALTIMORE / NEW YORK (Portions toll) (Crossing into DELAWARE). 94.0 miles Map
9: Merge onto I-295 N toward NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE / DEL MEM BR / NJ-NY (Crossing into NEW JERSEY). 6.4 miles Map
10: I-295 N becomes NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N (Portions toll). 73.0 miles Map
11: Keep RIGHT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward CARS / TRUCKS-BUSES (Portions toll). 32.9 miles Map
12: Keep LEFT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward EXITS 15W - 18W / I-280 / GEO WASHINGTON BR / RT-3 / MEADOWLANDS SPORTS COMPLEX (Portions toll). 10.8 miles Map
13: Keep RIGHT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward FORT LEE / G WASHINGTON BR / US-46 (Portions toll). 1.5 miles Map
14: Keep RIGHT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE / LOWER LEVEL / FORT LEE / LOCAL. 3.1 miles Map
15: Keep LEFT to take I-95 N toward G W BRIDGE UPPER LEVEL / US-1 N / US-9 N (Portions toll) (Crossing into NEW YORK). 10.5 miles Map
16: Take the HUTCHINSON PKWY NORTH exit- EXIT 9. <0.1 miles Map
17: Merge onto HUTCHINSON RIVER PKWY N via the exit on the LEFT. 1.7 miles Map
18: Merge onto I-95 N via EXIT 6 toward NEW HAVEN (Portions toll) (Passing through CONNECTICUT- then crossing into RHODE ISLAND). 160.3 miles Map
19: Merge onto I-195 E via EXIT 20 toward EAST PROVIDENCE / CAPE COD (Crossing into MASSACHUSETTS). 28.0 miles Map
20: Merge onto MA-140 N via EXIT 13B toward TAUNTON. 9.1 miles Map
21: Take the CHACE RD exit- EXIT 8- toward ASSONET. 0.2 miles Map
22: Turn LEFT onto CHACE RD. 0.2 miles Map
23: Turn LEFT onto COUNTY RD. 1.1 miles Map
24: Turn RIGHT onto GERARD AVE. 0.1 miles Map
25: End at Heaven Heights, MA US Map
Total Est. Time: 9 hours, 42 minutes Total Est. Distance: 557.98 miles
Ester
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:56 AM
Fred Sanferd!
You know nutin about no bible talk I know my bibles
It dont sey nutin bout no heathin gettin in tha perly gates
RhinestoneCowboy
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:58 AM
Buy a stairway.
Fred Sanford
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 10:00 AM
QUOTE (Ester @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:56 AM)

Fred Sanferd!
You know nutin about no bible talk I know my bibles
It dont sey nutin bout no heathin gettin in tha perly gates
Esta if yo eva made it ta heavens
Noah wood look around tryin ta find out where tha otha gorrilla fell offta ark
Iz gonna give you one cross yo perly teeth
you ole BAT
renaedawn
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 10:02 AM
QUOTE (RhinestoneCowboy @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 12:58 PM)

Buy a stairway.
Winner.
Royal_Tour
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 10:05 AM
No such thing as heaven.
Universe is 12 - 18 billion years old it started with a giant explosion and everhting including galaxies are moving away from each other at a very fast rate. eventually everthing will fold on itself and it will start all over again billions of years from now.
Imagine a grain of sand on a beach, imagine a grain in a hand full., how many grains? thousands? hundreds of thousands? now imagine every grain on every beach in the entire world.
Multiply that by 1 million and you'l start to understand just how many stars our out there.
where are we as humans? we evolved over time, are we here for a reason? of course not, we'll continue to grow and perhaps our planet is destined for doom. maybe a black hole, maybe a meteor, maybe just killing ourselves.
what happens when we die?
probably a bright light similar to that of a heaven, but its the lack of oxygen goin to our brains, at this point our minds slip into a dream state where we think we see our relatives, and loved ones, our souls leaving our bodies, but thats the last few seconds we have left while unconsious, a dream only take seconds, and this explains peoples visions of god with near death experiences.
digitalmonkey
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 10:30 AM

Heaven is a place on earth.
DonkSlayer
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 10:39 AM
Ha to everyone. Ok, serious answer time now.
digitalmonkey
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 10:58 AM
QUOTE (Royal_Tour @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 2:05 PM)

No such thing as heaven.
Universe is 12 - 18 billion years old it started with a giant explosion and everhting including galaxies are moving away from each other at a very fast rate. eventually everthing will fold on itself and it will start all over again billions of years from now.
Imagine a grain of sand on a beach, imagine a grain in a hand full., how many grains? thousands? hundreds of thousands? now imagine every grain on every beach in the entire world.
Multiply that by 1 million and you'l start to understand just how many stars our out there.
where are we as humans? we evolved over time, are we here for a reason? of course not, we'll continue to grow and perhaps our planet is destined for doom. maybe a black hole, maybe a meteor, maybe just killing ourselves.
what happens when we die?
probably a bright light similar to that of a heaven, but its the lack of oxygen goin to our brains, at this point our minds slip into a dream state where we think we see our relatives, and loved ones, our souls leaving our bodies, but thats the last few seconds we have left while unconsious, a dream only take seconds, and this explains peoples visions of god with near death experiences.
I can see the heaven in your eyes.
crowTrobot
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 12:58 PM
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 11:39 AM)

Ha to everyone. Ok, serious answer time now.
you didn't ask a serious question
Ron_Mexico
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 2:24 PM
Heaven isn't too far away
closer to it every day
no matter what your friends might say
mcsoupman
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 3:07 PM
Whoa'o'o,
Heaven let you light shine down.
ricker
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 3:57 PM
QUOTE (ajs510 @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 10:56 AM)

Richmond, VA US
Revise | New Directions
Heaven Heights, MA US
Revise | New Directions
Total Est. Time: 9 hours, 42 minutes
Total Est. Distance: 557.98 miles
1: Start out going SOUTHWEST on N ALLEN AVE toward PARK AVE. <0.1 miles Map
2: Make a U-TURN at PARK AVE onto N ALLEN AVE. <0.1 miles Map
3: Enter next roundabout and take 1st exit onto MONUMENT AVE. Pass through 1 roundabout. 0.8 miles Map
4: Turn RIGHT onto N BOULEVARD / VA-161. 1.2 miles Map
5: Merge onto I-95 N via the ramp on the LEFT. 91.1 miles Map
6: Merge onto I-395 N via EXIT 170A-B toward WASHINGTON / I-495 / TYSONS CORNER. 1.1 miles Map
7: Merge onto I-495 N / CAPITAL BELTWAY via EXIT 170B toward TYSONS CORNER (Crossing into MARYLAND). 29.8 miles Map
8: Merge onto I-95 N via EXIT 27 toward BALTIMORE / NEW YORK (Portions toll) (Crossing into DELAWARE). 94.0 miles Map
9: Merge onto I-295 N toward NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE / DEL MEM BR / NJ-NY (Crossing into NEW JERSEY). 6.4 miles Map
10: I-295 N becomes NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N (Portions toll). 73.0 miles Map
11: Keep RIGHT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward CARS / TRUCKS-BUSES (Portions toll). 32.9 miles Map
12: Keep LEFT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward EXITS 15W - 18W / I-280 / GEO WASHINGTON BR / RT-3 / MEADOWLANDS SPORTS COMPLEX (Portions toll). 10.8 miles Map
13: Keep RIGHT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward FORT LEE / G WASHINGTON BR / US-46 (Portions toll). 1.5 miles Map
14: Keep RIGHT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE / LOWER LEVEL / FORT LEE / LOCAL. 3.1 miles Map
15: Keep LEFT to take I-95 N toward G W BRIDGE UPPER LEVEL / US-1 N / US-9 N (Portions toll) (Crossing into NEW YORK). 10.5 miles Map
16: Take the HUTCHINSON PKWY NORTH exit- EXIT 9. <0.1 miles Map
17: Merge onto HUTCHINSON RIVER PKWY N via the exit on the LEFT. 1.7 miles Map
18: Merge onto I-95 N via EXIT 6 toward NEW HAVEN (Portions toll) (Passing through CONNECTICUT- then crossing into RHODE ISLAND). 160.3 miles Map
19: Merge onto I-195 E via EXIT 20 toward EAST PROVIDENCE / CAPE COD (Crossing into MASSACHUSETTS). 28.0 miles Map
20: Merge onto MA-140 N via EXIT 13B toward TAUNTON. 9.1 miles Map
21: Take the CHACE RD exit- EXIT 8- toward ASSONET. 0.2 miles Map
22: Turn LEFT onto CHACE RD. 0.2 miles Map
23: Turn LEFT onto COUNTY RD. 1.1 miles Map
24: Turn RIGHT onto GERARD AVE. 0.1 miles Map
25: End at Heaven Heights, MA US Map
Total Est. Time: 9 hours, 42 minutes Total Est. Distance: 557.98 miles
Has to be a mistake...there's no possible way you get to heaven through New Jersey.
CobaltBlue
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:58 PM
QUOTE (Royal_Tour @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 1:05 PM)

are we here for a reason? of course not, we'll continue to grow and perhaps our planet is destined for doom.
So what's the point? What's your motivation?
timwakefield
Friday, September 15th, 2006, 12:25 AM
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:44 AM)

Do Hindus and Buddhists just get re-incarnated a brazillion times or is there an eventual Nirvana? If there is, why do we have repeated incarnations of the Dalai Lama?
Out of compassion the Dalai Lama decided that he would continue to be reincarnated on earth so that he could spread understanding, or something along those lines.
Filesharer
Friday, September 15th, 2006, 2:31 AM
QUOTE (ricker @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 4:57 PM)

Has to be a mistake...there's no possible way you get to heaven through New Jersey.
But you can get to hell.
TenaciousMe
Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 5:31 PM
Eh, Christianity is the only religion where faith determines your salvation. Everything else has some type of good deed or meditation type thing along with it.
You can believe that Jesus died for your sins, but it doesn't really do any good unless you put complete faith into it. Meaning; if you've got complete faith in him, you probably won't be going around raping women and setting things on fire, so deeds naturally follow along, but aren't specifically required. Whether you're religious or not though, it's always good to help someone.
Loismustdie
Thursday, September 28th, 2006, 8:11 AM
QUOTE (TenaciousMe @ Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 6:31 PM)

Eh, Christianity is the only religion where faith determines your salvation. Everything else has some type of good deed or meditation type thing along with it.
You can believe that Jesus died for your sins, but it doesn't really do any good unless you put complete faith into it. Meaning; if you've got complete faith in him, you probably won't be going around raping women and setting things on fire, so deeds naturally follow along, but aren't specifically required. Whether you're religious or not though, it's always good to help someone.
You will want to do good deeds but they are not required but if you don't want to do good deeds then that means you must not be a good christian?
It blows my mind how this actually becomes doctrine.
Flack_attack
Thursday, September 28th, 2006, 4:10 PM
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Thursday, September 28th, 2006, 12:11 PM)

You will want to do good deeds but they are not required but if you don't want to do good deeds then that means you must not be a good christian?
It blows my mind how this actually becomes doctrine.
It blows my mind how you call yourself a Christian yet worship three Gods.
Loismustdie
Friday, September 29th, 2006, 12:17 AM
QUOTE (Flack_attack @ Thursday, September 28th, 2006, 5:10 PM)

It blows my mind how you call yourself a Christian yet worship three Gods.
What are you talking about? I never said that, not once.
Flack_attack
Friday, September 29th, 2006, 6:40 PM
So you do not worship Jesus?
TenaciousMe
Friday, September 29th, 2006, 7:22 PM
I think Flack_attack just jizzed on your argument, again, Lois.
Everyone has opinions, yours just .................particularly suck.
suicideking
Friday, October 6th, 2006, 5:14 AM
Read the brothers Karamazov. Particularly the chapters, Rebellion, and The Grand Inquisitor. Enjoy.
Braveheart91
Saturday, October 7th, 2006, 1:32 AM
Loved The Brothers Karamazov (although I was disappointed in the ending, Dmitri got hosed) but what point exactly are you trying to demonstrate by referencing Dostoevsky (arguably one Russia's greatest christian writers)?
Sluggo
Sunday, October 8th, 2006, 11:30 AM
http://godisimaginary.com/video1.htmContained in this video are the eight steps that Jesus spoke of in the bible.
suicideking
Monday, October 9th, 2006, 1:04 PM
QUOTE (Braveheart91 @ Saturday, October 7th, 2006, 1:32 AM)

Loved The Brothers Karamazov (although I was disappointed in the ending, Dmitri got hosed) but what point exactly are you trying to demonstrate by referencing Dostoevsky (arguably one Russia's greatest christian writers)?
Pretty much just pointing out the chapters that I mentioned because Ivan pretty much says, yes God exists, but f him, here's your 'ticket to Heaven' back, it isn't worth it. I think it has more meaning if you read the book, than just my quick one sentence interpretation of it.
Loismustdie
Monday, October 9th, 2006, 6:37 PM
QUOTE (Sluggo @ Sunday, October 8th, 2006, 12:30 PM)

http://godisimaginary.com/video1.htmContained in this video are the eight steps that Jesus spoke of in the bible.
Idiotic. I stopped listening at the 2nd step.
Sluggo
Monday, October 9th, 2006, 6:58 PM
Why are you so close-minded? Would you please address what was idiotic about the video?
twin7589
Monday, October 9th, 2006, 10:37 PM
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:44 AM)

So, if I acknowledge the Christ died for my sins and that he is the son of God, but don't really like him or God, do I still get into heaven?
If I'm a Muslim, is it like Judaism where Heaven is the sum of faithfullness and good works, or is there something offerred by God or something I can do to assure salvation?
Do Hindus and Buddhists just get re-incarnated a brazillion times or is there an eventual Nirvana? If there is, why do we have repeated incarnations of the Dalai Lama?
SHYTCAKES this was supposed to be in religion. Requested a thread move.
If you Don't Like Jesus ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Then How Would You Expect 2 Spend (Your) Eternity W/ Him in The King-Dom
of Heaven
Loismustdie
Monday, October 9th, 2006, 10:52 PM
QUOTE (Sluggo @ Monday, October 9th, 2006, 7:58 PM)

Why are you so close-minded? Would you please address what was idiotic about the video?
Anybody that is so stupid as to think that the scripture where christ tells the man to sell all of his possesions means we need to sell all of our possesions doesn't get it,misses the point entirely, and has no buisness spouting anything to do with God or christ. The point was that it was the one thing he couldn't do- all of us have that, most of us anyway, and it's different for everybody. I get that, all the christians I know get that- the only people who don't are people looking to find any fallacy, no matter how idiotic, in the bible and the easiest way to deal with that is just recognize them for what they are and move on. Real simple.
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