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DonkSlayer
So, if I acknowledge the Christ died for my sins and that he is the son of God, but don't really like him or God, do I still get into heaven?

If I'm a Muslim, is it like Judaism where Heaven is the sum of faithfullness and good works, or is there something offerred by God or something I can do to assure salvation?

Do Hindus and Buddhists just get re-incarnated a brazillion times or is there an eventual Nirvana? If there is, why do we have repeated incarnations of the Dalai Lama?

SHYTCAKES this was supposed to be in religion. Requested a thread move.
Fred Sanford
Jus look upata da sky ata good Loard an sey




Elizabeth!!!! Ima commin ta joinya honey!!!!



he let ya right in
GWCGWC
It's based on faith.
Canuckickstan
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 11:44 AM) *
SHYTCAKES this was supposed to be in religion. Requested a thread move.



Straight to hell !!!
ajs510
Richmond, VA US
Revise | New Directions


Heaven Heights, MA US
Revise | New Directions

Total Est. Time: 9 hours, 42 minutes
Total Est. Distance: 557.98 miles




1: Start out going SOUTHWEST on N ALLEN AVE toward PARK AVE. <0.1 miles Map

2: Make a U-TURN at PARK AVE onto N ALLEN AVE. <0.1 miles Map

3: Enter next roundabout and take 1st exit onto MONUMENT AVE. Pass through 1 roundabout. 0.8 miles Map

4: Turn RIGHT onto N BOULEVARD / VA-161. 1.2 miles Map

5: Merge onto I-95 N via the ramp on the LEFT. 91.1 miles Map

6: Merge onto I-395 N via EXIT 170A-B toward WASHINGTON / I-495 / TYSONS CORNER. 1.1 miles Map

7: Merge onto I-495 N / CAPITAL BELTWAY via EXIT 170B toward TYSONS CORNER (Crossing into MARYLAND). 29.8 miles Map

8: Merge onto I-95 N via EXIT 27 toward BALTIMORE / NEW YORK (Portions toll) (Crossing into DELAWARE). 94.0 miles Map

9: Merge onto I-295 N toward NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE / DEL MEM BR / NJ-NY (Crossing into NEW JERSEY). 6.4 miles Map

10: I-295 N becomes NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N (Portions toll). 73.0 miles Map

11: Keep RIGHT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward CARS / TRUCKS-BUSES (Portions toll). 32.9 miles Map

12: Keep LEFT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward EXITS 15W - 18W / I-280 / GEO WASHINGTON BR / RT-3 / MEADOWLANDS SPORTS COMPLEX (Portions toll). 10.8 miles Map

13: Keep RIGHT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward FORT LEE / G WASHINGTON BR / US-46 (Portions toll). 1.5 miles Map

14: Keep RIGHT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE / LOWER LEVEL / FORT LEE / LOCAL. 3.1 miles Map

15: Keep LEFT to take I-95 N toward G W BRIDGE UPPER LEVEL / US-1 N / US-9 N (Portions toll) (Crossing into NEW YORK). 10.5 miles Map

16: Take the HUTCHINSON PKWY NORTH exit- EXIT 9. <0.1 miles Map

17: Merge onto HUTCHINSON RIVER PKWY N via the exit on the LEFT. 1.7 miles Map

18: Merge onto I-95 N via EXIT 6 toward NEW HAVEN (Portions toll) (Passing through CONNECTICUT- then crossing into RHODE ISLAND). 160.3 miles Map

19: Merge onto I-195 E via EXIT 20 toward EAST PROVIDENCE / CAPE COD (Crossing into MASSACHUSETTS). 28.0 miles Map

20: Merge onto MA-140 N via EXIT 13B toward TAUNTON. 9.1 miles Map

21: Take the CHACE RD exit- EXIT 8- toward ASSONET. 0.2 miles Map

22: Turn LEFT onto CHACE RD. 0.2 miles Map

23: Turn LEFT onto COUNTY RD. 1.1 miles Map

24: Turn RIGHT onto GERARD AVE. 0.1 miles Map

25: End at Heaven Heights, MA US Map

Total Est. Time: 9 hours, 42 minutes Total Est. Distance: 557.98 miles
Ester
Fred Sanferd!



You know nutin about no bible talk I know my bibles



It dont sey nutin bout no heathin gettin in tha perly gates
RhinestoneCowboy
Buy a stairway.
Fred Sanford
QUOTE (Ester @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:56 AM) *
Fred Sanferd!
You know nutin about no bible talk I know my bibles
It dont sey nutin bout no heathin gettin in tha perly gates




Esta if yo eva made it ta heavens



Noah wood look around tryin ta find out where tha otha gorrilla fell offta ark



Iz gonna give you one cross yo perly teeth





you ole BAT
renaedawn
QUOTE (RhinestoneCowboy @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 12:58 PM) *
Buy a stairway.


Winner.
Royal_Tour
No such thing as heaven.

Universe is 12 - 18 billion years old it started with a giant explosion and everhting including galaxies are moving away from each other at a very fast rate. eventually everthing will fold on itself and it will start all over again billions of years from now.

Imagine a grain of sand on a beach, imagine a grain in a hand full., how many grains? thousands? hundreds of thousands? now imagine every grain on every beach in the entire world.
Multiply that by 1 million and you'l start to understand just how many stars our out there.

where are we as humans? we evolved over time, are we here for a reason? of course not, we'll continue to grow and perhaps our planet is destined for doom. maybe a black hole, maybe a meteor, maybe just killing ourselves.
what happens when we die?
probably a bright light similar to that of a heaven, but its the lack of oxygen goin to our brains, at this point our minds slip into a dream state where we think we see our relatives, and loved ones, our souls leaving our bodies, but thats the last few seconds we have left while unconsious, a dream only take seconds, and this explains peoples visions of god with near death experiences.
digitalmonkey


Heaven is a place on earth.
DonkSlayer
Ha to everyone. Ok, serious answer time now.
digitalmonkey
QUOTE (Royal_Tour @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 2:05 PM) *
No such thing as heaven.

Universe is 12 - 18 billion years old it started with a giant explosion and everhting including galaxies are moving away from each other at a very fast rate. eventually everthing will fold on itself and it will start all over again billions of years from now.

Imagine a grain of sand on a beach, imagine a grain in a hand full., how many grains? thousands? hundreds of thousands? now imagine every grain on every beach in the entire world.
Multiply that by 1 million and you'l start to understand just how many stars our out there.

where are we as humans? we evolved over time, are we here for a reason? of course not, we'll continue to grow and perhaps our planet is destined for doom. maybe a black hole, maybe a meteor, maybe just killing ourselves.
what happens when we die?
probably a bright light similar to that of a heaven, but its the lack of oxygen goin to our brains, at this point our minds slip into a dream state where we think we see our relatives, and loved ones, our souls leaving our bodies, but thats the last few seconds we have left while unconsious, a dream only take seconds, and this explains peoples visions of god with near death experiences.



I can see the heaven in your eyes.
crowTrobot
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 11:39 AM) *
Ha to everyone. Ok, serious answer time now.



you didn't ask a serious question
Ron_Mexico



Heaven isn't too far away
closer to it every day
no matter what your friends might say
mcsoupman
Whoa'o'o,
Heaven let you light shine down.
ricker
QUOTE (ajs510 @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 10:56 AM) *
Richmond, VA US
Revise | New Directions


Heaven Heights, MA US
Revise | New Directions

Total Est. Time: 9 hours, 42 minutes
Total Est. Distance: 557.98 miles
1: Start out going SOUTHWEST on N ALLEN AVE toward PARK AVE. <0.1 miles Map

2: Make a U-TURN at PARK AVE onto N ALLEN AVE. <0.1 miles Map

3: Enter next roundabout and take 1st exit onto MONUMENT AVE. Pass through 1 roundabout. 0.8 miles Map

4: Turn RIGHT onto N BOULEVARD / VA-161. 1.2 miles Map

5: Merge onto I-95 N via the ramp on the LEFT. 91.1 miles Map

6: Merge onto I-395 N via EXIT 170A-B toward WASHINGTON / I-495 / TYSONS CORNER. 1.1 miles Map

7: Merge onto I-495 N / CAPITAL BELTWAY via EXIT 170B toward TYSONS CORNER (Crossing into MARYLAND). 29.8 miles Map

8: Merge onto I-95 N via EXIT 27 toward BALTIMORE / NEW YORK (Portions toll) (Crossing into DELAWARE). 94.0 miles Map

9: Merge onto I-295 N toward NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE / DEL MEM BR / NJ-NY (Crossing into NEW JERSEY). 6.4 miles Map

10: I-295 N becomes NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N (Portions toll). 73.0 miles Map

11: Keep RIGHT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward CARS / TRUCKS-BUSES (Portions toll). 32.9 miles Map

12: Keep LEFT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward EXITS 15W - 18W / I-280 / GEO WASHINGTON BR / RT-3 / MEADOWLANDS SPORTS COMPLEX (Portions toll). 10.8 miles Map

13: Keep RIGHT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward FORT LEE / G WASHINGTON BR / US-46 (Portions toll). 1.5 miles Map

14: Keep RIGHT to take I-95 N / NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE N toward GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE / LOWER LEVEL / FORT LEE / LOCAL. 3.1 miles Map

15: Keep LEFT to take I-95 N toward G W BRIDGE UPPER LEVEL / US-1 N / US-9 N (Portions toll) (Crossing into NEW YORK). 10.5 miles Map

16: Take the HUTCHINSON PKWY NORTH exit- EXIT 9. <0.1 miles Map

17: Merge onto HUTCHINSON RIVER PKWY N via the exit on the LEFT. 1.7 miles Map

18: Merge onto I-95 N via EXIT 6 toward NEW HAVEN (Portions toll) (Passing through CONNECTICUT- then crossing into RHODE ISLAND). 160.3 miles Map

19: Merge onto I-195 E via EXIT 20 toward EAST PROVIDENCE / CAPE COD (Crossing into MASSACHUSETTS). 28.0 miles Map

20: Merge onto MA-140 N via EXIT 13B toward TAUNTON. 9.1 miles Map

21: Take the CHACE RD exit- EXIT 8- toward ASSONET. 0.2 miles Map

22: Turn LEFT onto CHACE RD. 0.2 miles Map

23: Turn LEFT onto COUNTY RD. 1.1 miles Map

24: Turn RIGHT onto GERARD AVE. 0.1 miles Map

25: End at Heaven Heights, MA US Map

Total Est. Time: 9 hours, 42 minutes Total Est. Distance: 557.98 miles


Has to be a mistake...there's no possible way you get to heaven through New Jersey.
CobaltBlue
QUOTE (Royal_Tour @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 1:05 PM) *
are we here for a reason? of course not, we'll continue to grow and perhaps our planet is destined for doom.

So what's the point? What's your motivation?
timwakefield
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:44 AM) *
Do Hindus and Buddhists just get re-incarnated a brazillion times or is there an eventual Nirvana? If there is, why do we have repeated incarnations of the Dalai Lama?



Out of compassion the Dalai Lama decided that he would continue to be reincarnated on earth so that he could spread understanding, or something along those lines.
Filesharer
QUOTE (ricker @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 4:57 PM) *
Has to be a mistake...there's no possible way you get to heaven through New Jersey.


But you can get to hell.

TenaciousMe
Eh, Christianity is the only religion where faith determines your salvation. Everything else has some type of good deed or meditation type thing along with it.

You can believe that Jesus died for your sins, but it doesn't really do any good unless you put complete faith into it. Meaning; if you've got complete faith in him, you probably won't be going around raping women and setting things on fire, so deeds naturally follow along, but aren't specifically required. Whether you're religious or not though, it's always good to help someone.
Loismustdie
QUOTE (TenaciousMe @ Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 6:31 PM) *
Eh, Christianity is the only religion where faith determines your salvation. Everything else has some type of good deed or meditation type thing along with it.

You can believe that Jesus died for your sins, but it doesn't really do any good unless you put complete faith into it. Meaning; if you've got complete faith in him, you probably won't be going around raping women and setting things on fire, so deeds naturally follow along, but aren't specifically required. Whether you're religious or not though, it's always good to help someone.



You will want to do good deeds but they are not required but if you don't want to do good deeds then that means you must not be a good christian?

It blows my mind how this actually becomes doctrine.
Flack_attack
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Thursday, September 28th, 2006, 12:11 PM) *
You will want to do good deeds but they are not required but if you don't want to do good deeds then that means you must not be a good christian?

It blows my mind how this actually becomes doctrine.


It blows my mind how you call yourself a Christian yet worship three Gods.
Loismustdie
QUOTE (Flack_attack @ Thursday, September 28th, 2006, 5:10 PM) *
It blows my mind how you call yourself a Christian yet worship three Gods.


What are you talking about? I never said that, not once.
Flack_attack
So you do not worship Jesus?
TenaciousMe
I think Flack_attack just jizzed on your argument, again, Lois.

Everyone has opinions, yours just .................particularly suck.
suicideking
Read the brothers Karamazov. Particularly the chapters, Rebellion, and The Grand Inquisitor. Enjoy.
Braveheart91
Loved The Brothers Karamazov (although I was disappointed in the ending, Dmitri got hosed) but what point exactly are you trying to demonstrate by referencing Dostoevsky (arguably one Russia's greatest christian writers)?
Sluggo
http://godisimaginary.com/video1.htm

Contained in this video are the eight steps that Jesus spoke of in the bible.
suicideking
QUOTE (Braveheart91 @ Saturday, October 7th, 2006, 1:32 AM) *
Loved The Brothers Karamazov (although I was disappointed in the ending, Dmitri got hosed) but what point exactly are you trying to demonstrate by referencing Dostoevsky (arguably one Russia's greatest christian writers)?


Pretty much just pointing out the chapters that I mentioned because Ivan pretty much says, yes God exists, but f him, here's your 'ticket to Heaven' back, it isn't worth it. I think it has more meaning if you read the book, than just my quick one sentence interpretation of it.
Loismustdie
QUOTE (Sluggo @ Sunday, October 8th, 2006, 12:30 PM) *
http://godisimaginary.com/video1.htm

Contained in this video are the eight steps that Jesus spoke of in the bible.


Idiotic. I stopped listening at the 2nd step.
Sluggo
Why are you so close-minded? Would you please address what was idiotic about the video?
twin7589
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 9:44 AM) *
So, if I acknowledge the Christ died for my sins and that he is the son of God, but don't really like him or God, do I still get into heaven?

If I'm a Muslim, is it like Judaism where Heaven is the sum of faithfullness and good works, or is there something offerred by God or something I can do to assure salvation?

Do Hindus and Buddhists just get re-incarnated a brazillion times or is there an eventual Nirvana? If there is, why do we have repeated incarnations of the Dalai Lama?

SHYTCAKES this was supposed to be in religion. Requested a thread move.


If you Don't Like Jesus ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...


Then How Would You Expect 2 Spend (Your) Eternity W/ Him in The King-Dom

of Heaven
Loismustdie
QUOTE (Sluggo @ Monday, October 9th, 2006, 7:58 PM) *
Why are you so close-minded? Would you please address what was idiotic about the video?


Anybody that is so stupid as to think that the scripture where christ tells the man to sell all of his possesions means we need to sell all of our possesions doesn't get it,misses the point entirely, and has no buisness spouting anything to do with God or christ. The point was that it was the one thing he couldn't do- all of us have that, most of us anyway, and it's different for everybody. I get that, all the christians I know get that- the only people who don't are people looking to find any fallacy, no matter how idiotic, in the bible and the easiest way to deal with that is just recognize them for what they are and move on. Real simple.
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