mikeysong
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 1:17 PM
I'm looking to buy a few $10-20 bottles of red wine. Any suggestions please? Thanks
dna4ever
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 1:19 PM
QUOTE (mikeysong @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 4:17 PM)

I'm looking to buy a few $10-20 bottles of red wine. Any suggestions please? Thanks

wow nice man, what's the special occassion?
....Ian....
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 1:20 PM
suggestion? grow some balls and drink some beer (or bourbon)
but seriously, i dont drink wine
MasterLJ
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 1:23 PM
Red Tail Shiraz is pretty damn good. It's an Aussie wine and is cheap.
gobears
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 1:29 PM
Not all the picks are red wines but there's quite a few in the link below from wine spectator.
You can also go to wine.com and check out their top rated wines that are under $20.
Wine Spectator Picks under $15
mikeysong
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 2:26 PM
QUOTE (dna4ever @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 2:19 PM)

wow nice man, what's the special occassion?
no special special occasion. Just celebrating a few things:
1) junior year of college
2) living in apartment instead of a dorm, so no stupid alcohol rules + we have a bookshelf w/a glass case that could use some wine bottles

3) liquor store right at the end of my block
4) roommate who has sister's 21 yr id
5) the 1,000 win from the steelers

ty gobears for the link and lj for the suggestion, i'll buy a bottle of red tail
ian - I'm also getting a 24pack of corona, no worries, manhood still in tact
ShakeZuma
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 2:36 PM
I just got really confused...
are you a girl? or are you a guy with a female roomate? or do you have a roomate who looks far too feminine?
mikeysong
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 2:52 PM
i'm a guy, my roommate's a girl, but that's besides the point
what's wrong w/drinking wine?
DrawingDeadInDM
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 3:09 PM
QUOTE (mikeysong @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 2:52 PM)

i'm a guy, my roommate's a girl, but that's besides the point
what's wrong w/drinking wine?
Nothing--if you suck pecker.
KDawgCometh
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 3:27 PM
QUOTE (MasterLJ @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 4:23 PM)

Red Tail Shiraz is pretty damn good. It's an Aussie wine and is cheap.
please never chime in on a wine thread ever again
okay, OP lemme try to help u out. If I were you, I'd increase my price range to being up to 30 as there are some real quality reds in the 20-30 range that you would miss out on
as far as shiraz/syrah, I'd go with a greg norman estates limestone coast shiraz. really good and very affordable. Penfolds makes some really good shiraz's too and are in the 20-30 range.
pinot noir- kim crawford is usually a very tasty one that is affordable. Though I really prefer the 2004 over the 2005. that is about it in the price range that is good value that I can think of.
france- I am a big bordeaux fan, and you can find some good values there, but you will have to do a lot of experimenting as there are a lot of small labels. Generally try to avoid 2002 for all of french reds because that was a very wet summer and led to a generally weak harvest. YOu can find a fair amount of decent rhones in your price range, namely look for chateanuf-du-pape, its a solid winery and even their lower grade wines are solid
mikeysong
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 3:39 PM
QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 4:27 PM)

please never chime in on a wine thread ever again
okay, OP lemme try to help u out. If I were you, I'd increase my price range to being up to 30 as there are some real quality reds in the 20-30 range that you would miss out on
as far as shiraz/syrah, I'd go with a greg norman estates limestone coast shiraz. really good and very affordable. Penfolds makes some really good shiraz's too and are in the 20-30 range.
pinot noir- kim crawford is usually a very tasty one that is affordable. Though I really prefer the 2004 over the 2005. that is about it in the price range that is good value that I can think of.
france- I am a big bordeaux fan, and you can find some good values there, but you will have to do a lot of experimenting as there are a lot of small labels. Generally try to avoid 2002 for all of french reds because that was a very wet summer and led to a generally weak harvest. YOu can find a fair amount of decent rhones in your price range, namely look for chateanuf-du-pape, its a solid winery and even their lower grade wines are solid
ty, very very helpful. Ok, so up to 30range it is
dapokerbum
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 3:39 PM
J. Lohr Cabernet is quite good and i believe it is $12 a bottle
Nikki_N
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 3:41 PM
When it comes to wine, compared to Keith, I know nothing, and usually take my wine recommendations from him. I do have one I like pretty well though for about 11 dollars a bottle (I think).
It is Rex-Goliath California Pinot Noir.
KDawgCometh
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 3:45 PM
QUOTE (dapokerbum @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 6:39 PM)

J. Lohr Cabernet is quite good and i believe it is $12 a bottle
i agree with this. In general its hard to find good cabernets for under $40
o yea, OP, check out Argyle Pinot Noir, I'm pretty sure its in the under 30 range
mikeysong
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 3:51 PM
alrighty
so a list for those who are also interested in wines up to $30
greg norma estates limestone coast shiraz
penfolds shiraz
pinot noir - kim crwaford 2004
bordeaux - chateanuf-du-pape, no 2002 wines
J. Lohr Cabernet
Argyle Pinot Noir
Rex-Goliath California Pinot Noir
gobears
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 4:26 PM
QUOTE (Nikki_N @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 4:41 PM)

I do have one I like pretty well though for about 11 dollars a bottle (I think).
It is Rex-Goliath California Pinot Noir.
That's a good one - you can get it at Safeway when they have it on sale for around $7 (excellent value)
MisterB
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 4:37 PM
The best Cabernet I have drank that was under $30 was
TURNBULL 03'
The 02 is ok, 01 is solid, but the 03' cannot be touched. It might be hard to find though.
Other than that its kind of a tossup because there is so much to consider when picking a redwine.
What do you prefer, shiraz, cabernet, pinot noir, syrah?
And if you say zinfindel quit drinking wine
Nikki_N
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 4:39 PM
QUOTE (MisterB @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 8:37 PM)

The best Cabernet I have drank that was under $30 was
TURNBULL 03'
The 02 is ok, 01 is solid, but the 03' cannot be touched. It might be hard to find though.
Other than that its kind of a tossup because there is so much to consider when picking a redwine.
What do you prefer, shiraz, cabernet, pinot noir, syrah?
And if you say zinfindel quit drinking wine
Pinot Noir for me for red.
Chardonnay for white. Though the Matua Sauv. Blanc that Keith likes is fantastic.
LongLiveYorke
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 4:48 PM
QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 7:27 PM)

okay, OP lemme try to help u out.
Thanks, K Dawg. If you have any more suggestions for affordable wine, feel free to post them here. I enjoy wine but know next to nothing about it.
yergan
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 4:53 PM
QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 3:45 PM)

i agree with this. In general its hard to find good cabernets for under $40
Im gonna have to disagree. There are plenty of great cabernets in the 10 - 20 AUS$ range (7 - 15 US$).
Prices in america might be a bit different to here in Oz though.
alf13
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 10:32 PM
QUOTE (mikeysong @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 5:17 PM)

I'm looking to buy a few $10-20 bottles of red wine. Any suggestions please? Thanks

Look dude...
A great wine...and it's only $12 or so...
Casillero del Diablo (Cabernet Sauvignon)
Great red.
mk
Wednesday, September 13th, 2006, 4:38 AM
QUOTE (MisterB @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 7:37 PM)

And if you say zinfandel quit drinking wine
nothin wrong with a good zin. red, not white, mind you. imo, one of the best under $15, easily accessible bottles you can buy is a ravenswood zin.
also, this is probably the best $12 bottle i've ever tasted:
http://www.normanvineyards.com/html/2003_z...del_classic.htmi bought a case at a tasting last year.
ajs510
Wednesday, September 13th, 2006, 4:42 AM

4 bucks.
Entrepeneur
Wednesday, September 13th, 2006, 5:50 AM
For Cab's, I agree that the J. Lohr is a great wine under 20.
Estancia also is very good.
As for Shiraz, the Mad Fish Shiraz (Aussie) was on the wine spectator's list and I really love that one. We had it at Stoney River (Their recommendation) and I then had the local store order some. Think it's around $15 here (Nashville), but it's a great wine.
Spend $45 at Costco or Sam's and you can pick up a Jordan Cab which is one of the big boys, but may not be worth it just yet.
Take the $15 you were going to spend, play no limit party poker .10/.25 for 1 hour and then spend that $45 on the Jordan.
Or play me heads up and in 5 minutes you'll have whatever amount you need.
(just realized I'm a rookie..the sucker at the table).
DonkSlayer
Wednesday, September 13th, 2006, 6:52 AM
Smoking Loon Shiraz is the best stuff ever for under $20 a bottle. I don't know how widely-distributed it is but we have it hear in Richmond.
Shiraz, Syrah, Petit Syrah, etc. If you want to be diversified in your tastes, I would suggest not drinking these, because if you get hooked, that's it. No more merlot, CS, etc.. Mmmm....
thehidden
Wednesday, September 13th, 2006, 6:59 AM
QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 4:27 PM)

please never chime in on a wine thread ever again
okay, OP lemme try to help u out. If I were you, I'd increase my price range to being up to 30 as there are some real quality reds in the 20-30 range that you would miss out on
as far as shiraz/syrah, I'd go with a greg norman estates limestone coast shiraz. really good and very affordable. Penfolds makes some really good shiraz's too and are in the 20-30 range.
pinot noir- kim crawford is usually a very tasty one that is affordable. Though I really prefer the 2004 over the 2005. that is about it in the price range that is good value that I can think of.
france- I am a big bordeaux fan, and you can find some good values there, but you will have to do a lot of experimenting as there are a lot of small labels. Generally try to avoid 2002 for all of french reds because that was a very wet summer and led to a generally weak harvest. YOu can find a fair amount of decent rhones in your price range, namely look for chateanuf-du-pape, its a solid winery and even their lower grade wines are solid
Excellent choices Kdawg...I esspecially love the flame of Yellow Tail, i bought a bottle once and it was corked...problem being it was a 2005 vintage AND had a plastic cork...the wine sucks, and unless you are going to pop 100$ down for the black lable Wolfblass it's not worth it.
You can actually get a very nice penfolds (2000-2002) chiraz for 10-15 here, but they are harder to find.
OP if by any chance you get canadian wines in your liqor store, stay away from most Ontario Wines unless you like Shat...but there is one brand that is decent and it's Naked Grape Chiraz, not bad for a 10$ wine.
btw to people who don't like wine, blow me!
AAsnake88
Wednesday, September 13th, 2006, 8:40 AM
Many good suggestions, however I've seen no recommendations of Italian wines. Here's a few for you:
Ruffino Fonte Al Sole, it's under $20 and a blend of mostly Sangiovese with some Merlot...very tasty.
Ruffino Riserva Ducale tan label is in the $20-30 range and and excellent bottle for a widely available Chianti. (The gold label is great, but that's around $40 if you care to splurge)
Villa Antinori Toscana Rosso, under $20, considered to be a "table wine", as in everyday type of wine, is something to consider as well.
There are many different Tuscan wines, and if you do like any of the above suggestions you can pretty safely choose from the section of the wine shop where you find these for other similar varietals without being disappointed. If you happen to come across any D.O.C.G. (you will find this pinkish label over the top of the bottle) chianti from the 1997 or 1999 vintage, pick it up. You will be more than pleased.
yergan
Wednesday, September 13th, 2006, 4:21 PM
The only problem I find with French / Italian wines (and Im probably biased being Australian) is consistency.
When you buy a $10 australian wine, you get a wine worth $10.
When you buy a $10 french wine, you could get a wine worth $25, or something that should be sold for $2. Too unpredictable IMHO.
sharkbite
Wednesday, September 13th, 2006, 5:03 PM
My advice: try a bunch. Find a variety/region you like and try a few different things. Figure out first whether you like merlots, pinot noirs, shiraz, cabs, zinfandels (not the pink fruit juice crap) or whatever. Then try a few different bottles within your price range.
I've never gotten into French wines because I just find it all very confusing. But if you decide you like Australian Shirazes, for example, try four or five different ones from around Australia. Try a Cab/Shiraz blend. Try a Californian.
The best advice I ever got about wines: there's only one thing you need to know about any wine. Whether you like it or not.
yergan
Wednesday, September 13th, 2006, 6:31 PM
QUOTE (sharkbite @ Wednesday, September 13th, 2006, 5:03 PM)

The best advice I ever got about wines: there's only one thing you need to know about any wine. Whether you like it or not.
QFT.
theresa113
Wednesday, September 13th, 2006, 6:44 PM
Don't buy Florida wine. That is my solid advice.
Now for my unsolid advice... buy the ones with the pretty label or bottle. This way, if you do not like wine, you have a bud vase.
mk
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 5:13 AM
QUOTE (sharkbite @ Wednesday, September 13th, 2006, 8:03 PM)

I've never gotten into French wines because I just find it all very confusing.
Try a few decent French whites. They typically taste much cleaner than American whites because they often process in stainless steel, whereas American makers tend to use oak.
RhinestoneCowboy
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 5:34 AM
I think they have a couple flavors that are red...

I am posting this because it came up in a search for "Boone's Farm"
MasterLJ
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 10:34 AM
QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 4:27 PM)

please never chime in on a wine thread ever again
Thank you Dictator KDawg.
FCP - "Home of the Debatable Opinion™"
"Your favorite color, is
NOT red!"
KDawgCometh
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 12:41 PM
QUOTE (MasterLJ @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 1:34 PM)

Thank you Dictator KDawg.
FCP - "Home of the Debatable Opinion™"
"Your favorite color, is NOT red!"
awww, were you hurt by the fact that you were giving crappy wine advice and got called out on it, here's a cookie to make you feel better
MasterLJ
Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 12:53 PM
QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 1:41 PM)

awww, were you hurt by the fact that you were giving crappy wine advice and got called out on it, here's a cookie to make you feel better

Nah... wine snobbism is my pet peave. People swear there isn't wine that other people might enjoy that is less than $30. I actually first tried Red Tail as a guest on a $16 million estate in Virginia, and enjoyed it along with my host. I'm not here to name drop, but while tasting wine in her kitchen there was a picture of her kitchen on the cover of Better Homes And Garden, so the woman has some sort of taste. So believe it or not, many walks of life enjoy wine that isn't so pricey. It's not like I recommended Frazier.
Consider it a lover's quarrel. I still love you.
P.S. I like Oatmeal Raisin cookies.
MisterB
Friday, September 15th, 2006, 12:25 AM
QUOTE (MasterLJ @ Thursday, September 14th, 2006, 4:53 PM)

Nah... wine snobbism is my pet peave. People swear there isn't wine that other people might enjoy that is less than $30. I actually first tried Red Tail as a guest on a $16 million estate in Virginia, and enjoyed it along with my host. I'm not here to name drop, but while tasting wine in her kitchen there was a picture of her kitchen on the cover of Better Homes And Garden, so the woman has some sort of taste. So believe it or not, many walks of life enjoy wine that isn't so pricey. It's not like I recommended Frazier.
Consider it a lover's quarrel. I still love you.
P.S. I like Oatmeal Raisin cookies.
Visiting Martha Stewart while she was in Jail and the guards brought you a bottle while you cooked spaghettios on her single stove-top does not count.
Have all the oatmeal raisin cookies you want. Spaghettios and in Jail are the only 2 combinations to go with RedTail
crazyIvan
Friday, September 15th, 2006, 2:38 PM
Don't forget to try out some Oregon and Washington reds. There are some nice (not great, but nice enjoyable) stuff from this area.
Canoe Ridge and Columbia Crest come to mind. Again, not great wines, but very drinkable.
If you want to step up a bit in price, Pepper Bridge makes an excellent Cab, imo.
CrackofmyACE
Friday, September 15th, 2006, 5:30 PM
I'm a cab guy myself
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