Fudgepackers deny Bears request to interview Tom Clemets.

Yeah, that was a dick move.

Like the Gaines Adams trade wasn't tragic enough on it's own, now he died.

I have yet to hear how though.

Heart attack, enlarged heart. If he was having pulmonary issues, probably why he hasn't lived up to his potential.

I always find it odd that these professional athletes can have an undetected condition like this. You never hear about someone having to retire because they detect an enlarged heart - you only hear about it when a guy dies.

Well crap.

Guess Lovie didn't listen to you Kurt.


Lots of former head coaches on this staff.



Looking forward to the Greatest Show on the shittiest Turf in the NFL.

Oh boy, I'm excited. I wonder if we could get Brandon Marshall for a second round pick...

Congratulations Bears fans!

Mike Martz is god. Now go get you some kind of offensive line and you're competing for the Superbowl next year.

My first 5 fantasy draft picks next year:

Jay Cutler
Matt Forte
Bears WR1
Bears WR2
Bears WR3

He doesn't listen to anyone. In fact, reports early on were that Angelo told him no to Martz without even an interview, then they paraded in a bunch of nobodies, and got denied by 2 or 3 people, and seemingly he had no choice but to bring him in.

Either this man will make miracles happen, or he'll completely crash and burn, and I kinda don't mind either way. I just hope when things go south, that Angelo is on the hook too, because he's the real problem.

Was he god in Detroit and San Francisco?

Also, how do we get an O-Line with no draft picks?

Umm, yes he was god in Detroit. Look what he turned Kitna into, and Roy Williams hasn't exactly lit it up in Dallas. What happened the year after Martz was gone? 0 wins.

In San Francisco, they had JT O'Sullivan at quarterback, and still went from the last offense in the league the previous year to about a middle of the pack.

And don't forget Vermeil used his system in KC when they had the best offense in the league for about 3 years.

Mike Martz is god.

nice

I hope you're right.

You know, I guess I'm a sports optimist. Who knew? I'm excited about Martz, and I still am hopeful about cutler .

It is way way way way way too early to throw dirt on Jay Cutler.

And I, for one, feel that the Cutler/Martz marriage is a good one.

I'm more worried about the receivers having to learn a massive playbook, especially Hester.

It all comes down to what can be done to short up the O-line. Without a workable 5 in the trench, everything else goes to shit. Provided they can figure their shit out there, I like bringing martz in.

My wish list. Forget the fact we decided to pay Hester WR money. Put him on PR/KR, focus on these tasks.....and if he's up to the challenge, give him the Az-Hakim role in the slot this year. Simpler routes, lots of iso-coverage, it's clearly his best chance for success. It was foolhardy thinking he'd be a 1/2 WR.....but I think he's got real potential gamechanging special teams and then doing the same out of the slot sporadically on offense. I would love to see the bears pursue acquiring issac bruce or torry holt on the cheap. Both are good veteran receivers....obviously well out of their prime, but versed in the martz offense and able to be a veteran WR figure to these young kids, both in general and in teaching this offense. I want to see Bennett in the gym all off season bulking up. Get thick. I want him hines ward-esque.

It really, truly all comes down to the offensive line though. Angelo lost a HUGE gamble by thinking Orlando Pace would be servicable. Kruetz is another year older, we have no draft picks. Every pick they have better go to OL or Secondary. And hopefully we can strike gold there and find an actual servicable vet before training camp.

Brandon Manumaleuna signed for 5 years.

Peppers on his way to town with his agent.


Chester Taylor coming to town today.




It's better than draft day!!

They better not let them leave without ink meeting paper.

Chester Taylor would be a nice surprise.

Then... SAFETY PLEASE! Also not liking these rumors about Olsen being on the trade block, because there's a real good chance Martz is only here for a year. In most other systems, Olsen is valuable.

fyp. but seriously, if the Bears can get all three, mad props. that is doing your job as a GM. Bears are legit.

Looks that way. I swear aliens took over the bodies of the front office staff. This is unprecedented for the Bears.

Taylor signed.


Word on the radio is that the Bears are packaging Olsen and Julio Iglesias for Brandon Marshall.

What radio?

Seattle is bringing him in tomorrow to try and get a deal done. Which basically gives Denver the 6th pick in the draft.



Also, all 3 guys are signed now. Peppers, Taylor, Manumaleuna.

WOOT!

If I was Seattle I would be offering Denver my bad first round pick (in the teens I believe) not the 6th pick.

lmfao at the idea that Denver would give up Marshall for a 2nd year WR with zero track record and an underachieving TE. give me a break.

I think the Bears are looking for a 2nd round pick or something like that for Olsen. Need a safety and the draft is safety deep.

rofl.

670 or 1000...my bro heard it




This is the same team that made the Cutler trade...

Was definitely 1000, I've had 670 on most of the day.

Definitely recommend skipping 1000 altogether, that rumor solidifies that, lol. Especially since the Bears are still claiming they're not looking to trade him, but sources inside say they're trying super hard. But as long as they're hiding it, I don't see actual names coming out yet.

I hope this guy is right...

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id...hine-in-chicago

They dream.

They could maybe get a 4th round pick for Olsen.

getting peppers is great though.

Well, some picks this year would be nice.

What a joke!

I know it's preseason game 1, but all week they've said they'll play a quarter, maybe more, being a new offense and all. They give Cutler one series and 2 passes!!

you god damn rube! why do people fall for this every year. THe only preseason game even worth watching (for hte starters) is the 3rd game, and even that's debatable.

*Fingers crossed*

I have no clue what I'm gonna see on Sunday.

hmm I always forget that I started this thread. I hate the NFL. I must have been drunk back then.

RESTORE THE ROAR!

People are going to bitch about the call, and second guess it ( though not as much as if they would have lost) but lovie smith 100 percent made the right call going for it 4th and goal from the 1 in the 8th minute of the 4th quarter, and for the first time I was proud to have him as the bears coach for making that call. I'm a lovie guy from here on out.

You can call it ballsy all day long, but not taking the lead late in the 4th is pretty stupid.

No, no it's not brv. It's not stupid, and I didn't call it ballsy either, and while it is "ballsy" to go with the correct mathematical play in the face of overwhelming public sentiment and conventional wisdom, what I would call it actually is " smart"

here's one site talking about it already, I hope others go into it further



http://www.advancednflstats.com/2010/09/lovies-blunders.html




Kicking the field goal actually gives the bears a lower chance to win the game than going for it on forth down, there for not stupid. You may not agree with the play, and the wp's might not be quite accurate, but at worst, at the very, very very worst, his decision was a coin flip, and if it's a coinflip, it's not a stupid decision, it's a meaningless one.


Further on in the article, the guy argues that smith's decision to punt on fourth and 7 later on in 4th quarter was a much larger error, given how little time was left on the board, and how little utility there is kicking a ball from the 38.

LOL - He'll be coaching at North Texas State next year. He's awful.



I concur.




Then please explain why they didn't go for it on 4th and 3 on the first drive of the game after Forte got stopped on 3rd and 1? The offensive line is bad.




I agree here. At least take the 5 yard delay of game penalty...

They should of, they made an error.

also, it's not like this was a short amount of time left in the game. If you kick the field goal, you then have to kick the ball off to the lions with 9 minutes left. They are, on average, going to get the ball back at the 35 ( which is much, much different than the 1) and have a chance to make an evern bigger play on the kick off return. So they have 9 minutes to move down the field, which is plenty of time.. even if they fail, they can put, make a defensive stand and get the ball back. And also, because it's a 2 point game, they only need to get it into field goal range. 9 minutes is plenty of time for that. That's why the bear's winning percentage is only 59% by kicking that field goal. Going for it there gives the bears a 5 point lead if they succeed, and if they fail the lions are in a much worse position on the one yard line ( for obvious reasons) they don't get a free kick off return, and have to run a conservative offense making it highly likely to punt, the resultant punt would put the bears almost in field goal position already, and with less time left on the clock.


I know conventional wisdom says " you take the points, the points are the points" but conventional wisdom is often wrong.

That article just proves that Lovie is an idiot.

They say that a 19 yard FG is made only 68% of the time? Is that even possible? Are they talking about Robbie Gould or the league average? Because if they are talking about the league average, then their math is flawed.

Also, they are obviously showing that Lovie went for it without even considering the math. (or Gould's history at 19 yards) Since he didn't go for the more obvious 4th down play later.

EDIT: I see you already saw this and agree with me.

EDIT 2: Wade Phillips kicks twice on 4th down from his side of the field last night. I hate Wade Phillips. How have the Cowboys not fired him?

No no no. You read it wrong. 4th and goal conversions from the 1 are 68%.

and I concede that Lovie might have made the right call for the wrong reason, but i was still pleased to see it.

Average stats don't really matter. Nothing happening in that game was really average. Offensive line is awful, the Lions hadn't gotten a first down in what? 2 quarters? I think you take the lead while you can, because clearly we couldn't score no matter what we were doing. It's like he completely forgot the last 5 drives we had with amazing field position and no points.

Even if you half the chance of making the first down ( which is preposterous), the difference in wp of going and not going for it becomes a coin flip., not the stupidest decision ever and worth vilifying him about.

That's always possible.