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Suited_Up
QUOTE (DrawingDeadInDM @ Monday, September 14th, 2009, 11:54 AM) *
He threw more balls to Earl Bennet than Hester, Olsen and Forte combined. That might be a problem.

As a Packers fan, I think their biggest problem was not using Forte enough/properly. They weren't patient enough with the run and only one pass thrown his way? Really?


I agree with this completely. Forte had like 80% of the plays last year. I have no idea what happened there.


Also God Dammit Urlacher!!
bigkg
yessssss
Suited_Up
Oh, Hi Johnny Knox.... Nice to meet you! smile.gif
BigDMcGee
3 local stations showed the Browns/broncos game instead of chicago-steelers game. That made me happy. 4
MaxStPolish
Bump for awesomeness. I said in the pre-season that even if we want to think that the bears are truly a super bowl contender , I would be a very happy camper if they were 2-2 after the 1st four games of the season, and would be estatic if they were 3-1. I mean GB in lambeau in prime time, super bowl champs at home, and then travel to always rough seattle to start a season. Just insane. They did the dirty work going 2-1, now they gotta handle it against Detroit and it's 3-1 going into the bye week, which is a huge A+. Wouldn't mind seeing a laugher of a win this week though. Three very taxing games so far for this team. Will be in attendance!!
Suited_Up
QUOTE (MaxStPolish @ Thursday, October 1st, 2009, 3:09 PM) *
Bump for awesomeness. I said in the pre-season that even if we want to think that the bears are truly a super bowl contender , I would be a very happy camper if they were 2-2 after the 1st four games of the season, and would be estatic if they were 3-1. I mean GB in lambeau in prime time, super bowl champs at home, and then travel to always rough seattle to start a season. Just insane. They did the dirty work going 2-1, now they gotta handle it against Detroit and it's 3-1 going into the bye week, which is a huge A+. Wouldn't mind seeing a laugher of a win this week though. Three very taxing games so far for this team. Will be in attendance!!


Even with 4 picks in that first game, they had the lead at the end too.

3-1 going into the Bye. biggrin.gif

Very much needed bye week, half the team is freakin injured.
MaxStPolish
QUOTE (Suited_Up @ Monday, October 5th, 2009, 10:23 AM) *
Even with 4 picks in that first game, they had the lead at the end too.

3-1 going into the Bye. biggrin.gif

Very much needed bye week, half the team is freakin injured.


yup, timing is everything.

Now to cheer for the packers for possibly the first time in my life.

Go pack go? LOL

53+ points total would give me a free 50 bucks too!!!
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (MaxStPolish @ Monday, October 5th, 2009, 5:58 PM) *
yup, timing is everything.

Now to cheer for the packers for possibly the first time in my life.

Go pack go? LOL

53+ points total would give me a free 50 bucks too!!!



The only thing that could possibly ever get me to root for the pack is Favre playing on the Vikings. That's like the ONLY way.
leftygolfer
Lovie is the worst.

Can't change the D up a little?


"We get off the bus running"

"Rex is our quarterback"





Bears don't make the playoffs next year. He's gone.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (leftygolfer @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 8:27 AM) *
Lovie is the worst.

Can't change the D up a little?


"We get off the bus running"

"Rex is our quarterback"





Bears don't make the playoffs next year. He's gone.



Shanahan 1 time dealer.
Jadaki
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 3:22 PM) *
Shanahan 1 time dealer.


He will be coaching the Cowboys next year, sorry.
brvheart
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 3:24 PM) *
He will be coaching the Cowboys next year, sorry.


I would prefer Schottenheimer.
El Guapo
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 2:12 PM) *
I would prefer Schottenheimer.



I too would prefer Schottenheimer to coach Dallas.
leftygolfer
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 3:22 PM) *
Mike Holmgren - 1 time dealer.


FYP. Just another stake in the heart of Packers fans. It would be so fun.

QUOTE (El Guapo'/braveheart date='Monday, October 26th, 2009, 4:29 PM) *
I too would prefer Schottenheimer to coach Dallas.


You can have him
Jadaki
QUOTE (leftygolfer @ Tuesday, October 27th, 2009, 3:03 AM) *
You can have him


No thanks.
JoeyJoJo
QUOTE (leftygolfer @ Tuesday, October 27th, 2009, 2:03 AM) *
You can have him

Guapo is a Bears fan.
brvheart
I find everyone's distaste for M.S. to be hilarious.
SGFULTON83
However, Schottenheimer's success in the regular season combined with his disappointing record in post-season play has led some pundits to label him as a coach who "can't win in the playoffs." The January 8, 2005 loss to the Jets brought his career playoff record to 5-12 (.294). In his 12 post-season appearances, Shottenheimer's teams have failed to win a playoff game eight times and a Shottenheimer coached team has not won a playoff game since the 1993 season.

This may be the reason most don't want him to coach their team.
BigDMcGee
LOL @ "can't win the big game" So dumb. He ran into better teams, and HOF players and that some how makes him a bad coach.
brvheart
QUOTE (SGFULTON83 @ Tuesday, October 27th, 2009, 5:44 PM) *
However, Schottenheimer's success in the regular season combined with his disappointing record in post-season play has led some pundits to label him as a coach who "can't win in the playoffs." The January 8, 2005 loss to the Jets brought his career playoff record to 5-12 (.294). In his 12 post-season appearances, Shottenheimer's teams have failed to win a playoff game eight times and a Shottenheimer coached team has not won a playoff game since the 1993 season.

This may be the reason most don't want him to coach their team.


...and, in my extremely humble opinion, that makes 'most' of the people complete idiots. The only person that should have been fired from the Chargers is A.J. Smith.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (brvheart @ Tuesday, October 27th, 2009, 10:30 PM) *
...and, in my extremely humble opinion, that makes 'most' of the people complete idiots. The only person that should have been fired from the Chargers is A.J. Smith.



I think MS being a "Choking" coach is one of the biggest jokes of all time. People place so much importance on tiny sample size, and don't ever take into account variance. In the playoffs, you are only playing good teams, often teams that are better than you, and if not, you are rarely better than a 60-40 favorite over another playoff team. Judging Marty's success as a coach, because he's been unlucky ( or just lost to better teams) is absurd. I think the fact that he has transformed multiple teams into playoff teams, over and over again at many different locations, is a much greater indication of his talent.
brvheart
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, October 28th, 2009, 3:11 AM) *
I think MS being a "Choking" coach is one of the biggest jokes of all time. People place so much importance on tiny sample size, and don't ever take into account variance. In the playoffs, you are only playing good teams, often teams that are better than you, and if not, you are rarely better than a 60-40 favorite over another playoff team. Judging Marty's success as a coach, because he's been unlucky ( or just lost to better teams) is absurd. I think the fact that he has transformed multiple teams into playoff teams, over and over again at many different locations, is a much greater indication of his talent.


It's painful to listen to the 'public' on many issues. I would probably be hospitalized due to happiness if Jerry Jones hired MS.

There are certain head coaches that, as long as they are associated with a team, that team will digress. It's like clockwork and I can't, for the life of me, figured out why owners don't understand this. If you hire Norv Turner or Wade Philips your team will naturally become more awful. Other coaches are exactly the opposite.
leftygolfer
QUOTE (JoeyJoJo @ Tuesday, October 27th, 2009, 10:23 AM) *
Guapo is a Bears fan.




orly?





Guap...any time you are in town. Hit me up for tickets.
Suited_Up
QUOTE (leftygolfer @ Thursday, October 29th, 2009, 2:07 PM) *
orly?





Guap...any time you are in town. Hit me up for tickets.


Hey, I'm ALWAYS in town!



Also.... I'd take Cowher.
BigDMcGee
Listen, any dreams of the bears hiring a name coach are just dreams. They've never, ever done it in their entire history. They will just do what they usually do, hire some no name assistant from the steelers or colts or something, someone they don't have to pay big money. Book it.
leftygolfer
The Bears are who we thought they were.




Kurt...may have a bunch of tickets soon.





Hello Mike Holmgren?
Suited_Up
QUOTE (leftygolfer @ Monday, November 9th, 2009, 8:53 AM) *
The Bears are who we thought they were.


Kurt...may have a bunch of tickets soon.


Hello Mike Holmgren?



Yeah, that was probably the worst I've ever seen the Defense play.
BigDMcGee
I've never seen them go away from a bears game at half time before. So that was nice. I couldn't even sweat Warner/fitz for fantasy reasons.


Nice penalty btw, Harris. Smart play.
GeneralGeeWhiz
awaiting bigD's response....

oh and...

x5. ty Cutler.
Suited_Up
You can thank Hester for one, The referee for one, and defensive pass interference for one.

So thanks to Cutler for 2x.
CaneBrain
QUOTE (Suited_Up @ Friday, November 13th, 2009, 9:26 AM) *
You can thank Hester for one, The referee for one, and defensive pass interference for one.

So thanks to Cutler for 2x.



Yeah but he still did not play great (though that missed PI call was BAD). His receivers dont get a lot of separation and his o-line is a sieve. At least the defense re-appeared.
leftygolfer
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Friday, November 13th, 2009, 8:55 AM) *
Yeah but he still did not play great (though that missed PI call was BAD). His receivers dont get a lot of separation and his o-line is a sieve. At least the defense re-appeared.



This week...
JoeyJoJo
QUOTE (Suited_Up @ Friday, November 13th, 2009, 6:26 AM) *
You can thank Hester for one, The referee for one, and defensive pass interference for one.

So thanks to Cutler for 2x.

I only sort of saw the highlights. Which one was the referee one? Regarding the pass interference, doesn't the defensive player have a right to go after the ball as well? It looked to me like the defensive player just got there first. But, like I said, I only sort of saw the highlights.


QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Friday, November 13th, 2009, 6:55 AM) *
At least they got to play against a horrible offense.

FYP?
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (GeneralGeeWhiz @ Thursday, November 12th, 2009, 11:38 PM) *
awaiting bigD's response....



My response is I'm glad my cable company doesn't have NFL network. This game would have depressed me.

QUOTE (JoeyJoJo @ Friday, November 13th, 2009, 9:57 AM) *
FYP?



Tough. Tough.... but fair.
DrawingDeadInDM
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Friday, November 13th, 2009, 6:55 AM) *
Yeah but he still did not play great (though that missed PI call was BAD). His receivers dont get a lot of separation and his o-line is a sieve. At least the defense re-appeared.


..against a mediocre offense.
Suited_Up
There was a play where Hester was coming across the middle and the ref ended up right in front of him a few feet before he got to the spot where Cutler put the ball, and it went to a SF player instead.

I think the PI was because the defensive player knocked the offensive player off his line, which is a big no-no.

I agree Cutler didn't have a great game, but he got them downfield on most drives, those 2 redzone INT's were bad and mostly on him, but he's putting drives together.

Regardless, he is absolutely the least of the problems on offense. You could put any QB in the league back there and there's no way we're better than .500.
BigDMcGee
He's still very young. We have a terrible offensive line, and a terrible wr corps. I've tried to be as open minded as I could about this season, given those things... willing to write off the whole season, should it be necessary, because I think he is such a stud talent. But... I'm begging to get this sinking dread in my stomach that the jay cutler trade is going to be one of the biggest debacles of all time, like epic. I'm trying to ignore it, trying to give him time. But jesus. ****ing. Christ.
leftygolfer
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, November 23rd, 2009, 3:15 AM) *
He's still very young. We have a terrible offensive line, and a terrible wr corps. I've tried to be as open minded as I could about this season, given those things... willing to write off the whole season, should it be necessary, because I think he is such a stud talent. But... I'm begging to get this sinking dread in my stomach that the jay cutler trade is going to be one of the biggest debacles of all time, like epic. I'm trying to ignore it, trying to give him time. But jesus. ****ing. Christ.



But he will be 28 before he has a real offensive coordinator. Culter is starting to get the Lovie "deer in the headlights look".

Lots of holes to fill. I think the biggest question will be how long Angelo is around. The talent evaluation is pathetic.

If Lovie doesn't make the playoffs next year, it's back to a whole new coaching staff and starting from ground 0.
leftygolfer
Let the Cato June era begin!
BigDMcGee
Don't give up on cutler yet, boys. Great game.
bmtphs05
4 TD's to 1 INT. Where has this Cutler been?

What an exciting game to watch.

Adrian Peterson finally comes up with a costly fumble. It was a matter of time.
RISEorFall
QUOTE (bmtphs05 @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 10:11 PM) *
Where has this Cutler been?

well when you have no running game, bad O-line, and your best receiver was a DB 2 years ago, it's hard to do a lot. not that he hasn't made some really bad decisions on his own. i havent seen many bears games being in the south, but on paper i'd guess that's a big part of it. A whole offseason to work with his young recievers and TEs and beef up the line a bit and the Bears can have a really good offense. the guy was a Pro Bowl QB.

since the super bowl a few years ago the defense has been terrible every game i've seen, if I were a Bears fan id be much more worried about fixing that.
Suited_Up
It helps when the receivers run the correct routes most of the time. Even though there was 1 or 2 bad ones today, not nearly as many.

Shocked Gould missed that kick though.
DrawingDeadInDM
QUOTE (RISEorFall @ Monday, December 28th, 2009, 9:20 PM) *
well when you have no running game, bad O-line, and your best receiver was a DB 2 years ago, it's hard to do a lot. not that he hasn't made some really bad decisions on his own. i havent seen many bears games being in the south, but on paper i'd guess that's a big part of it. A whole offseason to work with his young recievers and TEs and beef up the line a bit and the Bears can have a really good offense. the guy was a Pro Bowl QB.

since the super bowl a few years ago the defense has been terrible every game i've seen, if I were a Bears fan id be much more worried about fixing that.


"Now, granted..I don't really have any first hand knowledge of what I just spoke of, but..."

Sorry man. Just kinda funny.
leftygolfer
Press conference scheduled for today at 2.


My thoughts:


Lovie will be staying, however will give up D coordinator job.


Turner and Pep Hamilton get launched.


Bears will again hire coordinators with no prior experience and go cheap.
leftygolfer
From the Chicago Tribune:

The Bears have fired offensive coordinator Ron Turner, as well as offensive line coach Harry Hiestand, quarterbacks coach Pep Hamilton and tight ends coach Rob Boras, according to a league source.

The Bears will keep receivers coach Darryl Drake and running backs coach Tim Spencer. Drake's receivers were the most criticized group coming into the 2009 season, but performed much better than expected. Spencer had to deal with Matt Forte running on a bad knee and inconsistent play from the offensive line.

Also, sources differ on the role that assistant Rod Marinelli will play. While one league source expected Marinelli to become defensive coordinator -- and he is believed to have discussed the post with head coach Lovie Smith on Monday -- it appears the Bears will look elsewhere to fill the position.

Turner's dismissal was expected in light of the team's offensive struggles during a 7-9 season. He still will be regarded as one of the most productive offensive coordinators in the team's history after helping the Bears reach Super Bowl XLI. But Turner's fifth consecutive year as the team's offensive coordinator (and ninth total) went south despite the addition of quarterback Jay Cutler.

Turner was one of the first assistants the team met with Tuesday morning. Turner's offense finished 23rd in the NFL (310.3 yards per game) and 29th in rushing offense (93.3 yards per game) this season. During the Super Bowl season, the Bears were tied for 15th in yards per game (324.9) and tied for second with 26.7 points per game.

The cold relationship between Turner and Cutler did not help Turner's situation

Hiestand, who declined to comment about his dismissal, figured to be gone if Turner was no longer in the mix. The offensive line didn't make much improvement from last season despite the additions of Orlando Pace, Frank Omiyale, and Kevin Shaffer, although Omiyale, Shaffer, and Chris Williams showed progress at the end of the season.

Meanwhile, Joe Cullen, Marinell's defensive line coach when Marinelli was the head coach of the Detroit Lions, was spotted at Halas Hall last week and could take over the Bears' defensive line if Marinelli is promoted to coordinator.

In 2006, the Lions suspended Cullen after he was arrested twice, once on a drunk-driving charge and the other on a charge of driving naked through a fast-food drive-through lane.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (leftygolfer @ Tuesday, January 5th, 2010, 12:41 PM) *
Meanwhile, Joe Cullen, Marinell's defensive line coach when Marinelli was the head coach of the Detroit Lions, was spotted at Halas Hall last week and could take over the Bears' defensive line if Marinelli is promoted to coordinator.

In 2006, the Lions suspended Cullen after he was arrested twice, once on a drunk-driving charge and the other on a charge of driving naked through a fast-food drive-through lane.

OMG YES!
BigDMcGee
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4799863
QUOTE
It appears the Chicago Bears won't have a shortage of candidates to replace Ron Turner, who was fired as offensive coordinator on Tuesday.


Former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis is interested in the possibility of coming to Chicago, and he is currently holding off pursuing a similar role with the Kansas City Chiefs because of Tuesday's developments at Halas Hall, according to a source close to the Bears.
leftygolfer

QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, January 6th, 2010, 12:15 AM) *
Fat Charlie




I approve. Martz too.
Suited_Up
Martz would be a disaster. Gotta think about the personnel.

Fewell will be the D-Coord though.
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