Full Tilt Poker Game #964907944: $15,000 Guarantee (6341683), Table 5 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:14:38 ET - 2006/09/03
Seat 1: truprodigy (4,580)
Seat 2: koreys (5,090)
Seat 3: Agent STEALTH (3,320)
Seat 4: mojoworld (2,735)
Seat 5: royyaleflush (3,090)
Seat 6: myxomatosized (3,270)
Seat 7: majorchaos64 (2,885)
Seat 8: shibainu2 (2,330)
Seat 9: The_Dean221 (5,260)
mojoworld posts the small blind of 20
royyaleflush posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to myxomatosized [Ah Ac]
myxomatosized calls 40
majorchaos64 folds
shibainu2 folds
The_Dean221 folds
truprodigy calls 40
koreys folds
Agent STEALTH folds
mojoworld folds
royyaleflush checks
*** FLOP *** [Tc 9c Jh]
royyaleflush bets 80
myxomatosized raises to 400
truprodigy folds
royyaleflush calls 320
*** TURN *** [Tc 9c Jh] [Kc]
royyaleflush checks
myxomatosized checks
*** RIVER *** [Tc 9c Jh Kc] [4h]
royyaleflush checks
myxomatosized bets 500
royyaleflush has 15 seconds left to act
royyaleflush calls 500
*** SHOW DOWN ***
myxomatosized shows [Ah Ac] (a pair of Aces)
royyaleflush shows [Jd 9h] (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
royyaleflush wins the pot (1,940) with two pair, Jacks and Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,940 | Rake 0
Board: [Tc 9c Jh Kc 4h]
Seat 1: truprodigy folded on the Flop
Seat 2: koreys didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Agent STEALTH (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: mojoworld (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: royyaleflush (big blind) showed [Jd 9h] and won (1,940) with two pair, Jacks and Nines
Seat 6: myxomatosized showed [Ah Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: majorchaos64 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: shibainu2 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: The_Dean221 didn't bet (folded)


i know my first mistake was not raising before the flop. i figured, someone might get frisky and decide to raise. anyway, i think raising would have been much better. i certainly would have raised in late position to make it look like a steal.

my second mistake was cheking the turn. looking back there was no way he would have called such a large raise on the flop with the flush draw. maybe with a hand like JQ. but in the moment two pair wasn't even in my mind i was afraid of the flush and the straight. but if i was in this situation again, i think representing the flush here could have taken down the pot. on the other hand... this is quite a scary board for pocket aces. any queen makes a straight.... do you guys think you'd have to be phil hellmuth here to lay down the aces? or would it have been foolish to lay them down? is it too likely he's got a pair of jacks or a pair and a draw? on the other hand was a slowplay here on his part with a big hand that likely? could i have put him on a hand like he had and scared him off by representing a flush or a straight? i think representing here is very dangerous given all the possibilites but also very profitable given all the possibilities. what i mean is, no matter what he has, unless he's got the JQ or clubs, something out there can beat him. the fact that the Kc was both a straight card and a flush card tells me, he wasn't exaclt thrilled with what he had, pretty much no matter what he had.

anyway what do you all think? how would you have played this?

Use a converter. Makes it easier to see.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $20/$40
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $3270
UTG+1: $2885
MP1: $2330
MP2: $5260
MP3: $4580
CO: $5090
Button: $3320
SB: $2735
BB: $3090

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero calls, 3 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, 3 folds, BB checks.

Flop: T 9 J ($140, 3 players)
BB bets $80, Hero raises to $400, MP3 folds, BB calls.

Turn: K ($940, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: 4 ($940, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $500, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: $1940

slowplaying the AA UTG isn't horrible especially is table is laggy. As for the hand.

You raised too much on the flop here and villian still called. King on turn basically sucks since it also completes flush so I like the check. I don't see any sense in in value betting the river here cause I don't think its possible for villian to call with anything that doesn't beat us so I check behind the river as well

Raise preflop. I hate open limping with aces. Actually, I hate open limping.

Flop is fine.

Turn is a big scare card, but I think he would have to bet there unless he just hit the flush. It appears that he didn't like the turn, but hard to say.
Whatever happens, I don't think you are ahead. For him to call that reraise on the flop meant he had a made hand or he had a draw. The made hands still beat you and every possible draw beats you.

You have picked up a gutshot and the nut flush draw, so I like betting. If he has 2 pair or a set he will have to fold to a big bet, and if he has the straight he can't raise you with the flush hitting.

Given that you checked the turn, I don't know if betting the river is of any value unless you bet big. He is likely to call $500 with almost every hand that he calls the flop raise with. If you want to take this, you have to bet more. AA cannot be the best hand here.

i think that limp reraising with aces at a laggy table it good but you need to make a larger range of hands that you will do it with.

lets say like

aa kk qq 75% of the time

and then like aks, aqs, some of the time.

thanks for the converter. although it was a tourney not a ring game, which effects strategy quite a bit.

i probably should have checked it down on the river. but he checked it to me twice and i was holding AA! i guess i'm not hugely experienced and this has never happened and i wasn't thinking all that clearly. i guess i put him on like a pair of jacks and the Kc scared him off of betting. so the bet on the river in my mind was a value bet. although you're right he probably couldn't have called with anything worse than two pair.

thanks for your thoughs

Limp-re-raising w/ AA is a fine play w/ a couple conditions.

1.) You've got to have a good enough read on the table to reasonably assume somebody will raise behind you.

2.) If nobody does raise behind you, you've got to let it go when the board gets too scary and it looks like you're beat.