Zach6668
Sunday, August 27th, 2006, 7:04 PM
There's about 48 people left, 18 pay, but I want 1st, and the avg stack is T5800.
I just got moved to this table, so no reads.
Anyone down with my flop play?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed)
Hand History Converter Tool from
FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)
CO (t9568)
Button (t2287)
SB (t2040)
Hero (t6880)
UTG (t4760)
UTG+1 (t10365)
MP1 (t8160)
MP2 (t4540)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A

, K

.
UTG calls t200,
UTG+1 raises to t400, MP1 calls t400,
4 folds,
Hero raises to t1500, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t1100, MP1 folds.
Flop: (t3700) T

, 6

, 7
(2 players)Hero bets t5380 (All-In)...
Actuary
Sunday, August 27th, 2006, 7:39 PM
I'd either smooth call preflop, raise to 2500, or push.
I'm not pushing the flop
so basicly, I don't like it
Zach6668
Sunday, August 27th, 2006, 11:05 PM
QUOTE (Actuary @ Sunday, August 27th, 2006, 11:39 PM)

blah
Didn't mean to include results, edit your post for me...
Actuary
Sunday, August 27th, 2006, 11:29 PM
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Sunday, August 27th, 2006, 11:05 PM)

Didn't mean to include results, edit your post for me...
hey..
It's not "blah!" it's my real opinion of the preflop and flop!
Zach6668
Sunday, August 27th, 2006, 11:51 PM
QUOTE (Actuary @ Monday, August 28th, 2006, 3:29 AM)

hey..
It's not "blah!" it's my real opinion of the preflop and flop!
Yeah, but if I leave the quote in, then it gives the results
simo_8ball
Monday, August 28th, 2006, 2:08 AM
Push preflop. There is $1300 in the middle already, and any other raise committs you too greatly. Calling is my second choice, and I think it is a less volatile play. Basically on the flop you are only playing then with TPTK or better.
Push>Call>Big Raise>>>>Raise to 1500.
167-169
Monday, August 28th, 2006, 2:22 AM
Lately I've been really hating ak. The play here for me would be to push preflop and hope they fold.
The flop bet is suicidal. You have to be sure on your read and HOPE your opponent folds. If he calls you would ask yourself, why didn't I just stick it all in preflop.
I tell myself that cause I look the hand afterwards and say to myself that I didn't play the hand wrong. Raising so small is almost begging for action. The early min raiser scares me too. Pushing and taking the dead money is much safer, if they call at worst you are in a coinflip. If they do happen to have aa & kk well, thats tournament poker and probably worth the risk.
copernicus
Monday, August 28th, 2006, 2:34 PM
Push pre-flop. AK isnt a hand I want to play OOP and the more we can chase the better. As it is you did manage to get it HU so maybe your play is better up to that point though.
Pushing the flop? what calls that you can beat? What folds that beats you? Yeah it prices out a flush draw, but what are you protecting?
small pots for small hands.
Zach6668
Monday, August 28th, 2006, 2:37 PM
QUOTE (copernicus @ Monday, August 28th, 2006, 6:34 PM)

Push pre-flop. AK isnt a hand I want to play OOP and the more we can chase the better. As it is you did manage to get it HU so maybe your play is better up to that point though.
Pushing the flop? what calls that you can beat? What folds that beats you? Yeah it prices out a flush draw, but what are you protecting?
small pots for small hands.
I like to judge the play by results. I don't know what you are talking about
copernicus
Monday, August 28th, 2006, 3:12 PM
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Monday, August 28th, 2006, 6:37 PM)

I like to judge the play by results. I don't know what you are talking about

Which were?
Zach6668
Monday, August 28th, 2006, 3:43 PM
QUOTE (copernicus @ Monday, August 28th, 2006, 7:12 PM)

Which were?
He folded.
(I'm sure an sw wasn't need in my post above, right?)
copernicus
Monday, August 28th, 2006, 3:45 PM
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Monday, August 28th, 2006, 7:43 PM)

He folded.
(I'm sure an sw wasn't need in my post above, right?)
lol, no, none needed
Actuary
Monday, August 28th, 2006, 5:59 PM
aren't we to deep to make pushing the best play on the preflop?
simo_8ball
Monday, August 28th, 2006, 6:06 PM
Pot is 1300. We do have enough to make a standard raise, but AKo is not a good hand to play for a flop out of position. If we make a standard raise we end up with a pot the size of our remaining stack (or more if we get more than 1 caller), and any miss on the flop makes it really awkward to play.
subsin
Monday, August 28th, 2006, 6:17 PM
there are times where i made the same play, hoping he missed the flop and i could take it down with my Ak high, times where ive made the play and have gotten called, its all about read, i give him mid-pp or aj-aq
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