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zsta2k6
Hi, this is the official thread for the FCPPC low buyin event. If you couldnt figure out that from the title, go kill yourself. Now that I got that out of the way, onto business. All announcements and such for this event will now be made here instead of the original thread found here.

Here is the website where you can find schedules, results, and more...
http://home.comcast.net/~zsta2k5/FCPPC/index.htm

Below is all the information in the original thread...

Money is due by the end of August
If you do not pay by then, your seat will be forfeited.

To pay, first, you must put the buyin amount ($50 or $250) into your cashiers account, then email bob at pokermanager@fullcontactpoker.com with your forum and poker room name, and buyin, from the email address listed under your poker account. he will then extract the money from your account, let me know, and you will be in. Please note he has a player list, so no trying to sneak in!

Format: Based off of Poker Superstars 2/3
24 players, each playing 5, 6 player prelim matches, with points given for finishing position.
The top 16 advance into 4 seeded groups of 4, who will play 2 matches each, top 2 finishers in each group advance.
Those 8 will be split into 2 groups of 4 and will play one match each, top 2 advancing to the semis.
Semis are a best 2 of 3 heads up match, with the winners advancing to the best 3 of 5 finals.

Schedule: 90% sure Prelim matches will take place on weeknights (excluding wednesday) between 9-10 EST starting after labor day. Saturday is also possible but not preferred.
Players will play once a week during prelims, each playing 5 matches, playing everyone else at least once hopefully. Round of 20 will take place in week 6 and 7, same schedule, once again each player playing once a week.
Week 8 will close out with the 2 quarterfinal matches, the two semifinal best of 3 series, and closing with the best of 5 finale. As this schedule is so spread out, the low and high buyin events will more than likely be run simultaniously.

RULES:
Table Setup:
Game - No Limit Hold'em
Buy in - $5+.50
Blind Structure - Slow (15 minute levels)
Starting Chip Stack - 1,500

Tournament Structure:
This is a multi-round tournament with 32 entrants

Preliminary Stage - Each player plays 5 preliminary matches against 7 opponents, with points given for place.
1st-10 pts
2nd-8 pts
3rd-6 pts
4th-5 pts
5th-4 pts
6th-2 pts
7th-1 pt
8th-0 pt
The top 20 will advance to the next round.

Round of 20 - Players will be grouped together based on place in the preliminary stage.
Each group will play one five handed match, the winner advances to the quarterfinals.
Then the group will play one four handed match, the winner of that also advances to the quarterfinals.

Quarterfinals - Players will be grouped together based on place in the round of 20.
Each group will play one match, with the top 2 in each group moving onto the semifinals.

Semifinals - The winner of one quarterfinal will be paired against the 2nd place finisher of the other.
Each pair will play a best of three heads-up series with the winner advancing to the finals.

Finals - The two semifinal winners will play a best of five heads-up series to determine the winner of the tournament.

Payout Structure:
Preliminary win: $40 (20 winners)
Round of 20 win: $40 (8 winners)
Quarterfinal top 2: $80 (4 winners)
Semifinal win: $80 (2 winners)
Final Win: $160 (one winner)

General Tournament Rules:
Groupings - Preliminary groupings will be randomly assigned using a specialized program written in Java which I will make available for download.

Tiebreakers - At the table - In the event two players are knocked out in the same hand, the player entering the hand with more chips will place higher. In the event the players have the same amount of chips when eliminated, the players will take the average of the points awarded. For example, with four players left, two players with the same amount of chips are knocked out, the players will each be awarded 3rd place for 4 points (3rd + 4th, divided by 2).

In the preliminary - In the event two or more players have the same amount of points, the tiebreakers will be as follows
1. Wins
2. 2nd place finishes
3. 3rd place finishes
4. 4th place finishes
5. Head to head place (place in groups where matches were played together)
In the event the players are still tied after these tiebreakers, and the 20th and 21th position are involved in a tie, a tiebreaking match will take place. If 20th and 21th place are not involved, a tiebreaking match is optional, and may be played by the tied players if they wish.

In the Quarterfinal - In the event two or more players have the same amount of points, the tiebreakers will be the same as the preliminary tiebreakers.

Substitutions:
One substitution will be allowed during the preliminary stage. I must be notified by email or PM at least one hour before the match or your substitute will not be allowed to compete.

Consolation Tournament:
The 12 people eliminated in the round of 20 of the high buy in will be invited to play in a $350 added tournament. This tournament will follow standard rules. Buyin and payout are still yet to be decided.
brvheart
What does the title of this thread mean?
zsta2k6
QUOTE (brvheart @ Friday, August 25th, 2006, 5:38 PM) *
What does the title of this thread mean?

I think we have an new opening in the event... who wants to fill his spot?

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DonkSlayer
So was the original money just a reservation or what? Since we have to still buyin to the sng's...
brvheart
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Monday, August 28th, 2006, 12:01 PM) *
So was the original money just a reservation or what? Since we have to still buyin to the sng's...



I was wondering this as well after reading the OP. And, if true, that will make this venture a little more expensive than I was planning. It will still be a blast though... and I'm looking forward to it.
zsta2k6
QUOTE (brvheart @ Monday, August 28th, 2006, 1:24 PM) *
I was wondering this as well after reading the OP. And, if true, that will make this venture a little more expensive than I was planning. It will still be a blast though... and I'm looking forward to it.


The original money is the buyin to the event, however, it is the nature of this kind of contest that people who are already mathematically eliminated to decide to save $5 and not show up for their last matches. This would be unfair to the people in that match as it would cut into their winnings. So, to break it down, $25 is for the event prize pool, and $25 is a 'security deposit' if you will, insurance that you will show up. For every match you show up for, you get $5 of that deposit back. It will end up being more expensive in the short term, as you will have to buy in yourself. However, after the finals when the payouts happen, your deposit will be returned to you. Simply put, whatever you spend on buyins, will be reimbursed to you throughout the entire tournament. Theoretically, you could spend $80 on buyins in this tournament, on top of the $50 you paid for the tournament. However, not only would you have already gotten a little bit for your efforts, the entire $80 would be paid back to you after the finals.
brvheart
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Monday, August 28th, 2006, 12:45 PM) *
The original money is the buyin to the event, however, it is the nature of this kind of contest that people who are already mathematically eliminated to decide to save $5 and not show up for their last matches. This would be unfair to the people in that match as it would cut into their winnings. So, to break it down, $25 is for the event prize pool, and $25 is a 'security deposit' if you will, insurance that you will show up. For every match you show up for, you get $5 of that deposit back. It will end up being more expensive in the short term, as you will have to buy in yourself. However, after the finals when the payouts happen, your deposit will be returned to you. Simply put, whatever you spend on buyins, will be reimbursed to you throughout the entire tournament. Theoretically, you could spend $80 on buyins in this tournament, on top of the $50 you paid for the tournament. However, not only would you have already gotten a little bit for your efforts, the entire $80 would be paid back to you after the finals.

Thank you for the detailed explanation.
XX44466XX
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Monday, August 28th, 2006, 10:45 AM) *
The original money is the buyin to the event, however, it is the nature of this kind of contest that people who are already mathematically eliminated to decide to save $5 and not show up for their last matches. This would be unfair to the people in that match as it would cut into their winnings. So, to break it down, $25 is for the event prize pool, and $25 is a 'security deposit' if you will, insurance that you will show up. For every match you show up for, you get $5 of that deposit back. It will end up being more expensive in the short term, as you will have to buy in yourself. However, after the finals when the payouts happen, your deposit will be returned to you. Simply put, whatever you spend on buyins, will be reimbursed to you throughout the entire tournament. Theoretically, you could spend $80 on buyins in this tournament, on top of the $50 you paid for the tournament. However, not only would you have already gotten a little bit for your efforts, the entire $80 would be paid back to you after the finals.

Bonus.
tobytobey
Is the league full? I only ask because of the people dropping out in the original thread.
zsta2k6
QUOTE (tobytobey @ Tuesday, August 29th, 2006, 8:16 AM) *
Is the league full? I only ask because of the people dropping out in the original thread.


yes. There have been a few people who have dropped, but there is a decent sized alternates list just in case.
jowest
time is going way to slow. I wish this would start already so I can win.
DonkSlayer
QUOTE (jowest @ Wednesday, August 30th, 2006, 12:59 PM) *
time is going way to slow. I wish this would start already so I can win.



Seriously. I don't keep much money on FCP and I'm about to waste it all if I don't get to start playing these soon.
zsta2k6
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Wednesday, August 30th, 2006, 2:04 PM) *
Seriously. I don't keep much money on FCP and I'm about to waste it all if I don't get to start playing these soon.


week from tomorrow <cue dramatic music>
brvheart
Has everyone paid in the low buy in? Payments were due today, no?
DonkSlayer
I pizzaid.
Kei
Anybody willing to switch their first day with me? Fridays aren't that great for me, so I'd appreciate if I could get my first match in on Mon, Tues, or Thurs by swapping with someone. Anyone interested?
sloshr
QUOTE (Kei @ Friday, September 1st, 2006, 4:41 PM) *
Anybody willing to switch their first day with me? Fridays aren't that great for me, so I'd appreciate if I could get my first match in on Mon, Tues, or Thurs by swapping with someone. Anyone interested?

I would swap, if it is allowed. Friday would work better for me, and it would stop me from having to play the same guy 5 times.
XX44466XX
QUOTE (sloshr @ Friday, September 1st, 2006, 10:43 PM) *
I would swap, if it is allowed. Friday would work better for me, and it would stop me from having to play the same guy 5 times.

Sound scared to me.

JS.
zsta2k6
QUOTE (sloshr @ Saturday, September 2nd, 2006, 1:43 AM) *
I would swap, if it is allowed. Friday would work better for me, and it would stop me from having to play the same guy 5 times.


alright... swap made... will be reflected in the next schedule update.
Yoda
Who actually creates these tables/games? Are the players responsible for getting it going? Will it be there waiting for us?
EStormOk
If at all possible at this point I really need to change my first match. I play on Thursday the first match and it is almost impossible for me to make it. So if anyone that is playing on the 8th (Friday) I would like to switch to the 7th (Thursday) let me know.
Golden
Hate to say it guys, but I have to withdraw. Scheduling.
XX44466XX
QUOTE (Golden @ Monday, September 4th, 2006, 2:14 AM) *
Hate to say it guys, but I have to withdraw. Scheduling.

Have Mommy TiVo your Samurai Jack for you.
zsta2k6
Unfortunately, due to 12 people that signed up not paying, I am forced to push this back. The tournament will hopefully now start on the 18th (the scheduled week 2) with week one matches being pushed back to the current round of 20. The tournament will go on as long as we get 24 people, which shouldnt be a problem.


QUOTE (Yoda @ Sunday, September 3rd, 2006, 11:51 AM) *
Who actually creates these tables/games? Are the players responsible for getting it going? Will it be there waiting for us?


it will be there waiting for you under the private sit and go section... it will be created by user FCP_Stars_Lo
DonkSlayer
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Tuesday, September 5th, 2006, 2:33 AM) *
Unfortunately, due to 12 people that signed up not paying, I am forced to push this back. The tournament will hopefully now start on the 18th (the scheduled week 2) with week one matches being pushed back to the current round of 20. The tournament will go on as long as we get 24 people, which shouldnt be a problem.
it will be there waiting for you under the private sit and go section... it will be created by user FCP_Stars_Lo



How about we don't sign people up officially until they get their money in? I'm tired of waiting.
Wandigo
So it's not starting this week? I was gonna say EStorm, I'll switch you my Friday for your Thursday if it's still starting this week.
cdipierr
FYI, on the schedule, I note my "FCP Poker Name" is blank. It's actually "PLogan". Please update when you have a chance.

Still in and ready to go.
EStormOk
QUOTE (Wandigo @ Tuesday, September 5th, 2006, 10:11 AM) *
So it's not starting this week? I was gonna say EStorm, I'll switch you my Friday for your Thursday if it's still starting this week.


Thanks Wandigo. I am actually glad we are not playing this week. If I still have to play on a Thursday later on, I may still need someone to swap with.

I would like to suggest that we get this to either 20 or 24 or whatever number works and then start it as soon as possible. ZSTA can adjust the payouts to keep them in the same ratio as listed.

I am afraid if this drags out much longer we will end up not having this.
zsta2k6
QUOTE (cdipierr @ Tuesday, September 5th, 2006, 4:27 PM) *
FYI, on the schedule, I note my "FCP Poker Name" is blank. It's actually "PLogan". Please update when you have a chance.

Still in and ready to go.


yeah, I have everyone's poker name who has paid, waiting on more final rosters to reupdate tho. Thanks.
jowest
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Tuesday, September 5th, 2006, 1:31 PM) *
yeah, I have everyone's poker name who has paid, waiting on more final rosters to reupdate tho. Thanks.


you don't have mine and I paid on time!

poker name is jowest0
zsta2k6
QUOTE (jowest @ Tuesday, September 5th, 2006, 7:54 PM) *
you don't have mine and I paid on time!

poker name is jowest0



did I seriously use 'tho' damn, I must have been screwed up at work. Anyways, if your poker name does not show up on the website, it is because I havent updated the player list.
brvheart
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Tuesday, September 5th, 2006, 9:58 AM) *
How about we don't sign people up officially until they get their money in? I'm tired of waiting.


QFT... this totally sucks.
Canuckickstan
QUOTE (brvheart @ Tuesday, September 5th, 2006, 11:08 PM) *
QFT... this totally sucks.



Could sign up and pay today if there is room on the alternate list. I'm not afraid !! icon_eh.gif
zsta2k6
QUOTE (Canuckickstan @ Wednesday, September 6th, 2006, 8:05 PM) *
Could sign up and pay today if there is room on the alternate list. I'm not afraid !! icon_eh.gif


pm sent, you are in if you want
acesfull333
Sorry guys/gals,

Been away from the forum for a week or so... I was on the alternates, but missed my callup...

However, since it was pushed back, I'm now in...

About to send my money now...

Chris Mc
zsta2k6
Great news folks, tonight due to the neg-o, we recieved a big influx of signups, boosting us up to 27 or 28 people signed up. have more details tomorrow, but it is a for sure go with at least 28 people, looks like we may fill this thing yet.
zsta2k6
Anyone interested in doing a 'test match' tomorrow at 10ish ET? Want to see how 15 minute levels effect the length of the match, and how it plays. if you are interested PM dna and he'll give you the password... no, wait, pm me.
blazerp0410
Could you update the schedule online with the new dates ASAP I'd like to set my schedule.

Thanks

EDIT: Nevermind, already done. Thanks.
zsta2k6
For the hell of it I'm posting a link to the test match taped tonight... The torrent is below, and the google video link should be up as soon as the video is approved...

Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-699500874224778730

The video is less grainy if you use the google video player and download the video from google. I'm looking for somewhere to host the full-res video.
BearCanada
z Hey if it's not too late I'd like into the low level.

The money is in my Cashier account

I'll PM you

Bear
Wandigo
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Thursday, September 7th, 2006, 9:49 PM) *
For the hell of it I'm posting a link to the test match taped tonight... The torrent is below, and the google video link should be up as soon as the video is approved...

Torrent: http://home.comcast.net/~zsta2k5/FCPPC/tor...t_match.torrent

Google Video: TBA

That was a fun match, lemme know when you get it up at google.
zsta2k6
QUOTE (Wandigo @ Friday, September 8th, 2006, 9:29 AM) *
That was a fun match, lemme know when you get it up at google.


it's up... I edited the post with the information...

here is the link anyways..

Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-699500874224778730

The video is less grainy if you use the google video player and download the video from google. I'm uploading the full res video to another site right now (245mb)
DonkSlayer
Pretty cool..

So are we just starting with our week 2 schedule as week 1?
zsta2k6
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Friday, September 8th, 2006, 3:12 PM) *
Pretty cool..

So are we just starting with our week 2 schedule as week 1?


yep, the only schedule change is the first match was moved to the back.


We have one spot left until we are full up.
DonkSlayer
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Friday, September 8th, 2006, 3:35 PM) *
yep, the only schedule change is the first match was moved to the back.
We have one spot left until we are full up.



I'm sorry, I'm scared to death I'm going to miss it. So, since my game is not the first, it'll be at the same date/time as posted for the 2nd week matches. Right?


How long are the blinds?
zsta2k6
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Friday, September 8th, 2006, 4:36 PM) *
I'm sorry, I'm scared to death I'm going to miss it. So, since my game is not the first, it'll be at the same date/time as posted for the 2nd week matches. Right?
How long are the blinds?


it's no problem... the changed schedules are posted here: http://home.comcast.net/~zsta2k5/FCPPC/low...im/schedule.htm
Wandigo
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Friday, September 8th, 2006, 8:39 AM) *
it's up... I edited the post with the information...

here is the link anyways..

Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-699500874224778730

The video is less grainy if you use the google video player and download the video from google. I'm uploading the full res video to another site right now (245mb)

ha! now I can see what you had each hand and I'm going to watch this over and over and study your every move. zsta is going dooowwwnnnnn.

oh, and my only complaint is that maybe 1/3rd into it, I can see your desktop. I notice that you have plain ol mIRC installed and don't even use the script I wrote and spent a year programming. angry.gif I demand you install Tracer Script over that basic junk.
zsta2k6
QUOTE (Wandigo @ Friday, September 8th, 2006, 5:11 PM) *
ha! now I can see what you had each hand and I'm going to watch this over and over and study your every move. zsta is going dooowwwnnnnn.

oh, and my only complaint is that maybe 1/3rd into it, I can see your desktop. I notice that you have plain ol mIRC installed and don't even use the script I wrote and spent a year programming. angry.gif I demand you install Tracer Script over that basic junk.


haha.. I only have 3 moves... donk off chips, raise preflop and win the blinds, and lose when I push all in...

and that isnt my entire desktop... I can't run 800x600... it makes me sad inside.

here is a link to the full res video of the match: http://www.filefactory.com/file/8bd407/
acesfull333
Ready to get started!!

I'll check out the video.. good stuff!

You going to tape all the ones you're in or what?
zsta2k6
QUOTE (acesfull333 @ Sunday, September 10th, 2006, 2:51 PM) *
Ready to get started!!

I'll check out the video.. good stuff!

You going to tape all the ones you're in or what?


taping every high buyin match and releasing it.
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