Yes sorry Wigan. I get the crappy Premier teams beginning with W confused.

Wigan are not crap...

Aren't they one place above the relegation zone? That would make them a crap premier league team I'm afraid. And they have Emile Heskey. And they play him!

One place above relegation in the English premier league is nothing to be ashamed of as it is the best league in the world. Also within the last 5 years teams like Reading and Wigan have came out of no where. They finished 10-12th last season which is definitely an achievement for a newly promoted club.

Liverpool 2 - Chelsea 0!

They're only good compared to West Brom. This year they've been rubbish.

big epl fan, looking at the lines today for the blackburn - watford game, the game is in watford, blackburn lost a defender over the weekend, these are the ONLY close reasons why i could imagine watford isnt a HUGE dog, blackburn is +105 where i gamble, god knows ive been wrong before... lol

in case i wasnt clear enuff, i love blackburn today like a worms love dirt

glory lol

So sweet. Splendid effort at Anfield.

Newcastle 2
Liverpool 1



Weeee, Newcastle in the top 10.

Liverpool really just gave this game away. I have not seen Gerrard put forth a superlative effort in a long time. He seems.....off.

Still it's not like they are playing poorly lately so why frown....

you're still 10 pts back of chelski and 16 back of ManU, that would be a reason to frown

I dont think so. Expecting them to be able to beat out two all-star teams like chelsea and Man U is unreasonable. Individual game sure but not over the course of the whole premiership season.

I think Liverpool has had a very good season.

Edit: Chelski. Haha nice joke. didnt get it the first time.

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=ap-e...p&type=lgns


lol

he is a good footballer, but he also has a peanut for a brain.

Not the Premiership, but Barca and Liverpool are on ESPN2 right now in their second leg of the Champion's League first round

West Ham sucks.

Good drama but not a good match to watch. Liverpool defended for 90 minutes and looked to counter but hung on to go through.

Am I the only one that is really annoyed with the announcers on ESPN. They really have no clue as to what they are talking about.

wrong.

I have to say this is largely bunk. Steve Coppell is a manager who's early 90s exploits with Crystal Palace seem to have been forgotten but it should have been a surprise to noone he could take a team like Reading that had previously reached the playoffs under Pardew and not only take them up (with a record number of points) but also keep them up. Wigan have a chairman in Dave Whelan who could easily make the funds available to keep a newly promoted team up and a quality manager in Jewell who already had expeirence in getting Bradford City to the EPL and keeping them there.

Having said all this I rather hope Wigan do go down, they have one of the worst attendence records in the league and really do not deserve a premiership club.

Hardly, which league has 4 champions league placements?
The premiership
Correct

Answers in white

I would love to know what league is better. The EPL has, by far, more foreign stars in it than any other league. Almost every top player is quoted as saying they want to play in the premiership before their career is finished.

I would like to know as well but he wont answer =(

what I'd also like to know is where are all of those fans of teh scouser scum that were talking about how they were gonna win the league this year and how my beloved red devils weren't going to finish in the top two. Where are all of you now, huh, hahahahahaha. GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED

I've been hiding in my hole.

You could make a decent case for La Liga I think but I still would go with the EPL by a small margin. There is no denying that the EPL features a bit of a drop off after the quadrant of Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. But cmon its the premiership and still #1.

edit: most of the arguments I hear saying that the EPL is not the best league in the world center on the fact that the majority of South American stars dont play there. fwiw.

I think it is pretty clear that the EPL is the best league in the world right now. Three out of four teams in the semi-finals of the Champions League. That is impressive.

GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



i love how tons of people went into hiding and killed off this thread

What a swift change in fortune over that 45 minutes....

Thought Man Utd were done in the game and Chelsea had 3 points locked up....

Looks like the title is United's this year.

Congrats Man U, on winning England... your 16 english cup..only 2 behind Liverpool now.... enjoy your OFFSEASON, you guys earned a nice rest.


I guess us scouser scum will have to take solace in liverpool hoisting it's SIXTH European Cup...

or season isn't over yet, we're still going to win teh double a week from saturday, to which we'll extend our record of FA Cup wins to 12 while you're lot are still at 7. You guys also haven't won the league since 90, just thought I'd remind you of that

I see you're content with national dominance. good for you!

FYP

Pot, meet kettle.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

wait for it


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

See, I'm here.. right now.. to face it, Kdawg.. I didn't hide for a week...


The better team won, clearly... Liverpool's far exceeded their talent this entire champions league, and I'm still proud of them. QJ can beat AK only so many times..

if you didn't notice, I've barely been around at all this month, I wasn't hiding, I just had a lot going on, of which saturday was my birthday, so I spent it drunk at a bar when drogba scored his goal.

That being said, I don't understand what benitez was doing waiting to put on mr robot and the fact is, gerrard and kuyt barely touched the ball in the dangerous areas. onto the summer season

Sad loss for Liverpool, they had a lot of opportunities, but its what you do with those opportunities that makes the difference.

I never get what Benitez is doing with this team ever. And yet they had a lot of success this year. So who knows.

Woohoo Fernando Torres

skippity bop

Hello soccer fans,

I was watching the World Cup last year and surprisingly found it enjoyable and very similar to basketball which I am a big fan of. I play FIFA on playstation and for no good reason I always use Liverpool, and found myself watching classic Liverpool games. Well, I'm going to attempt to watch football this year as a Liverpool fan when the season starts. I have some questions that hopefully can be answered:

I don't understand all the different leagues and what's the most prestigious. Explain?

The relegation system?

Is there a package on cable that I could order and see all the games?

Michael Owen, my favorite player, is he still on Liverpool?

It seems there are a number of people that have become soccer fans since the World Cup, are real long-time fans sick of this?

Is it ok to call it soccer since that is what it is called in the US, or should I call it football?

Since I believe it's possible the US is going to be in shambles soon, the only major sports that I think will survive internationally are soccer and basketball, so I might as well learn about #1. Thanks.

No, we (Liverpool) do not have Michael Owen, but we just signed Fernando Torres ( a sick striker from Spain). We were also just bought by two US businessmen who have money, which is always good. Also, we have Steven Gerrard who is my God.

Thanks. US businessman have a tendency to be greedy. Hopefully they bought the team as a toy.

hahahahahaha Americans shouldn't really be allowed an opinion on football.... sorry "soccer"

The top dog currently is (arguably) the EPL (English Premier League). Unlike NA sports, the regular season is the most important trophy -- as admission and seeding into bonus championships such as the Champions League, UEFA, FA Cup, etc... are based on the previous year's campaign and actually run concurrently with the domestic schedule.

Above and beyond the domestic leagues the most prestigious is the Champions League; there the top team(s) from each euro league are entered into a massive competition. Where teams get seeded into the competition (and in what round they enter) is calculated with a crazy matrix of past successes and country weighting.

As for the relegation system in England there are 4 divisions (other countries generally have 2+). At the end of each season the bottom 3 teams are sent down and 3 teams are promoted, so it's possible to be kicked out of the national league play back into a regional league.

Think of it this way, when the Kobe leaves the Lakers, and they are one of the 3 worst teams in the West. They would get demoted to the NBA D league and replaced with one of the best teams from that league.

Just a couple of corrections. There's no seeding in the FA Cup, that's the beauty of it. All English teams are entered (Premiership teams enter in the 3rd round), and the best 2 teams, say Chelsea and Manchester United, could play each other in this round if they are drawn together.

Regarding the relegation system, you're correct that 3 go up, 3 go down... but all four Leagues (Premier, Championship and League 1 + 2) are National Leagues, not regional.