crankin
Wednesday, August 16th, 2006, 6:30 AM
QUOTE (Scott3705 @ Wednesday, August 16th, 2006, 8:13 AM)

we give the villian another free card cause if we're ahead he's drawing to 2-3 outs for one card.
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I personally think the turn is always a bet to protect your hand.
The first quote was in regards to not raising the flop.
Scott, I'm trying to reconcile your thoughts here. Granted, the backdoor flush draw appeared on the turn, but that aside, if we aren't already beat, isn't villain still drawing to the same 2-3 outs on the turn? This feels a lot like a WA/WB situation. I wouldn't normally think of protecting my hand in a situation like this. For me, I'd rather get to a showdown cheaply. Yes, the club on the river is ugly, and a good lag will push on that card, but I really don't give him credit for the flush here. However, if he has the 3, it's a good card as well, because now he can represent the bluff (as I doubt he's giving us credit for the flush either). I'd really like a good read on the villain (tight vs. loose) before I commit my chips on the river.
It's still possible that BB called with a decent King. And, we're behind pretty much any king that would call from the BB.