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Zach6668
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

UTG ($76.80)
Hero ($97.10)
MP1 ($101.70)
MP2 ($95.50)
MP3 ($46.35)
CO ($76.85)
Button ($47.05)
SB ($41.85)
BB ($137.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A icon_suit_spade.gif , A icon_suit_diamond.gif .
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, MP3 calls $3, 4 folds.

Flop: ($7.50) K icon_suit_club.gif , 8 icon_suit_diamond.gif , T icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5, MP3 calls $5.

Turn: ($17.50) 8 icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $9, MP3 calls $9.

River: ($35.50) 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks with the intention of calling most bets.


Anyone just bet this river? I really don't want to get raised. I don't really know where I am in the hand though.

Just noticed my turn bet is really weak too, right?
winzton
i say bet either pot size or more above the pot on the flop. On turn do the same bet pot size or abov the pot size. if he calls both bets..i like the check on the river
DonkSlayer
I think you should make it at least $4 preflop in a 100max game.

I don't mind the line you took, although a decent K would probably pay off a half-pot bet on the riv. The board bricked for any draws.
Zach6668
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 11:51 PM) *
The board bricked for any draws.


The vision of QJ threw me...
trystero
I love checking because it encourages bluffs and also gives a king confidence. By leading out you are getting called by a decent king and getting raised by a hand that crushes you. All else folds. By checking you at least give villain the opportunity to make a mistake.
troyomac
QUOTE (trystero @ Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 8:14 PM) *
I love checking because it encourages bluffs and also gives a king confidence. By leading out you are getting called by a decent king and getting raised by a hand that crushes you. All else folds. By checking you at least give villain the opportunity to make a mistake.


I agree with this.
Lavitz
I like half-potish turn bet because 8 just crushed K10 and any other K is drawing to the two other K's in the deck. Not many other draws out there besides straight so no need to bet hard either. Set of 1010 is small possibility but unlikely, so chances are you have healthy lead in this pot. No need to scare anyone away.

River brings about almost worst possible scare card (besides another king). If he was drawing to straight he made it. Check/call is probably good. You're inducing bluffs and kings to bet at you. I would call almost any bet here.
Jordan
$3.5 pf.

flop is good, turn bet 12-14, river i dont mind a check/call or lead.

- Jordan
Scott3705
QUOTE (Lavitz @ Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 11:42 PM) *
River brings about almost worst possible scare card (besides another king). If he was drawing to straight he made it. Check/call is probably good. You're inducing bluffs and kings to bet at you. I would call almost any bet here.



What is this guy "bluffing" with? a king? no he checks down some times and kings usually call our river bet anyway. A small pair? no small pairs probably figure to be good and take free showdown or it's very presumptuous to think he wants to try to bluff us off of a king here. air? why would he have air here? A busted draw? no, the busted draw actually got there.

so what are we inducing a bluff from? Check/calling is spewing here for the most part IMO. I like leading this bet for 1/2 pot or and folding to a reraise to make sure I get value from any hands that are calling but not betting. Behind that, I think C/Fing is better unless villian is a donk who will "value bet" pp's in addition to a king.
fckthis
QUOTE (trystero @ Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 8:14 PM) *
I love checking because it encourages bluffs and also gives a king confidence. By leading out you are getting called by a decent king and getting raised by a hand that crushes you. All else folds. By checking you at least give villain the opportunity to make a mistake.


But you also give villian a freeshowdown. I check rivers alot to induce bluffs, just like alot of posters here, but I will bet against ppl who would call a bet, but not themselves. Since villian is unknown, I take the latter.
krup24
3.5-4 preflop
10-12 flop
1/2 pot on the river

I think the river is a must bet here. If ur checking with the intention of calling most bets which would include a 1/2 sized pot bet by villian then there is absolutely no reason to check this river and let KJ KQ KA check this down. This could even be a misplayed KT by the villian. Fearing JQ is understandable but I don't think its there enough to check this river.

We are missing out on a ton of money over the long run if we don't be this river.
Zach6668
QUOTE (krup24 @ Wednesday, August 16th, 2006, 1:12 PM) *
3.5-4 preflop
10-12 flop
1/2 pot on the river

I think the river is a must bet here. If ur checking with the intention of calling most bets which would include a 1/2 sized pot bet by villian then there is absolutely no reason to check this river and let KJ KQ KA check this down. This could even be a misplayed KT by the villian. Fearing JQ is understandable but I don't think its there enough to check this river.

We are missing out on a ton of money over the long run if we don't be this river.

I agree with this post.

Villain showed KQ after checking behind.
iggymcfly
It's less fun to post when the results are already out there, but even without reading them, I was thinking bet a little more on the turn, ($10-$12 range), and then bet $20 or so on the river. The fact that the board's paired means that you don't have to worry about two pair, and you're a lot more likely to be up against a king than QJ.
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