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Limit: $10/$20
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Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with A Q
2 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: 2 Q A (3SB, 2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: J (3.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

River: 2 (7.5BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero (has no idea what to do)

I call. We're ahead often enough here, since we only have to be good about 1/11.5 times, he could have AJ or just some random ace that thinks he's chopping, or just a random bluff more than it is a flush or full house, IMO.

Seems like an easy call, for the reasons Zacht stated.

Love the turn btw.

Yeah, even though I hate the raise, I definitely had no intentions of folding. I guess my "Hero (has no idea what to do)" comment was a bit misleading. But I didn't want to add any influence at first.

I'm really more concerned with the whether I should call or raise.

I agree AJ, AK, etc. is much more probably than a flush or full house. And with 11.5:1 odds, I'll take the risk.

Any one think there is value in raising??


PS Thanks for the turn "props", verdimme. I love to pull a little stop-and-go against agressive players. And as a side benifit against more observant players, you may earn a free river card in another hand when a flop semi-bluff lead bet gets raised and you call (by no means a reason to do it most will not notice, but a nice side effect... it has happened).

You just have to be careful that you don't give away a free river card with less aggressive players. Perfect example of a serious mistake:
Limit $10/$20 Holdem 7 players Converter
Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is BB with J J
4 folds, Button raises, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, SB calls.
Flop: 4 A J (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB calls, Hero calls.
Turn: 5 (6BB, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Oops!! Really thought Button was raising the Ace after my pre-flop 3-bet and flop lead bet and he would bet the turn too.

Lucky for me...
River: 7 (6BB, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB folds.

It's pretty obvious (or at least highly probable) that I gave the SB a free river to catch his flush.

I don't see any reason to reraise the river. If you do however, decide to reraise the river, I think you have to fold to a cap.

Well.... I don't know that if he caps I have to fold. He is probably not going to give me credit for the flush the way I played it. So, he doesn't to have to flush to cap. Did he hit trip jacks and not 3-bet the turn? he may only have two pair. I don't know.... but that is the biggest reason I didn't want to raise the river. I could be forced into a very, very tough desision and possibly get bluffed off the hand or cost myself 3 more BB instead of just one more BB to show down.

I really wanted to raise this river, but didn't like the possible (or should I say probable) conciquences.... so I did only call.

Glad to hear everyone agrees with the call so far.

I call