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SPADES21
This hand just happend like 5 minutes ago and was wondering if i played it right or if i could have folded and saved my stack. I dont see how i could have gotten away from it but any help or comments would be appreciated.

Stage #469063242 Tourney ID 61045 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $150 - 2006-08-10 16:01:55 (ET)
Table: 8558114 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 2 - SPADES21 ($4860 in chips)
Seat 6 - ARFF ($2965 in chips)
Seat 7 - REP0M4N ($5675 in chips)
ARFF - Posts small blind $75
REP0M4N - Posts big blind $150
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SPADES21 [2c 2h]
SPADES21 - Calls $150
ARFF - Folds
REP0M4N - Checks
*** FLOP *** [10h Ah Js]
REP0M4N - Checks
SPADES21 - Checks
*** TURN *** [10h Ah Js] [6h]
REP0M4N - Checks
SPADES21 - Checks
*** RIVER *** [10h Ah Js 6h] [2s]
REP0M4N - Bets $600
SPADES21 - All-In(Raise) $4710 to $4710
REP0M4N - Calls $4110
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SPADES21 - Shows [2c 2h] (Three of a kind, twos)
REP0M4N - Shows [Qh 8h] (Flush, ace high)
REP0M4N Collects $9795 from main pot
gooch
QUOTE (SPADES21 @ Thursday, August 10th, 2006, 1:10 PM) *
This hand just happend like 5 minutes ago and was wondering if i played it right or if i could have folded and saved my stack. I dont see how i could have gotten away from it but any help or comments would be appreciated.

Stage #469063242 Tourney ID 61045 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $150 - 2006-08-10 16:01:55 (ET)
Table: 8558114 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 2 - SPADES21 ($4860 in chips)
Seat 6 - ARFF ($2965 in chips)
Seat 7 - REP0M4N ($5675 in chips)
ARFF - Posts small blind $75
REP0M4N - Posts big blind $150
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SPADES21 [2c 2h]
SPADES21 - Calls $150
ARFF - Folds
REP0M4N - Checks
*** FLOP *** [10h Ah Js]
REP0M4N - Checks
SPADES21 - Checks
*** TURN *** [10h Ah Js] [6h]
REP0M4N - Checks
SPADES21 - Checks
*** RIVER *** [10h Ah Js 6h] [2s]
REP0M4N - Bets $600
SPADES21 - All-In(Raise) $4710 to $4710
REP0M4N - Calls $4110
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SPADES21 - Shows [2c 2h] (Three of a kind, twos)
REP0M4N - Shows [Qh 8h] (Flush, ace high)
REP0M4N Collects $9795 from main pot



How can you not get away?

You are beaten by 4 over sets, a straight and a myriad of flushes
nomad_monad
1. raise preflop - you're first in and you're on the button. don't limp.

2. just call the river bet. on this board, no hand calls your raise here that isn't at least a straight.

3. there's a tourney section
DonkSlayer
This is generic enough to be tourney or cash.


A basic tenet of NL HE is this:

If you're going to raise with a hand that is not the nuts, do not raise an amount that only hands better than yours will call.

Your push was ill-advised even if you had flopped a straight.
trystero
QUOTE (nomad_monad @ Thursday, August 10th, 2006, 9:41 PM) *
1. raise preflop - you're first in and you're on the button. don't limp.

2. just call the river bet. on this board, no hand calls your raise here that isn't at least a straight.

3. there's a tourney section


4. do not f*ck with anyone named REP0M4N
nomad_monad
QUOTE (trystero @ Thursday, August 10th, 2006, 2:34 PM) *
4. do not f*ck with anyone named REP0M4N


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nice
MapleLeafs
QUOTE (nomad_monad @ Thursday, August 10th, 2006, 4:41 PM) *
1. raise preflop - you're first in and you're on the button. don't limp.


Really... raise preflop with ducks? I've always gone under the impression that you try to see the flop as cheap as possible with low pocket pairs. Absolutely anything that calls your raise is very close to a coin flip at worst. (except X-2) Chances are good that if you hit your set, you'll win a very good pot. If you miss, then get out.

But yeah OP, bottom line is, you butchered the river.
nomad_monad
QUOTE (MapleLeafs @ Thursday, August 10th, 2006, 2:58 PM) *
Really... raise preflop with ducks? I've always gone under the impression that you try to see the flop as cheap as possible with low pocket pairs. Absolutely anything that calls your raise is very close to a coin flip at worst. (except X-2) Chances are good that if you hit your set, you'll win a very good pot. If you miss, then get out.


you do (try to see the flop cheaply) if someone has already come into the pot preflop.

but in this case, you're defaulting too much to pure hand strength and the odds of making our hand. you raise here not because of what your hand is, but because no one else is in, you have positional advantage throughout the hand, and even if you get a call your opponent will miss the flop pretty often and thus a follow-up bet will often take down the pot on the flop.

plus, in an unraised pot where it's just the button and the blinds, quite often you don't win a big pot if you hit your set. if no one raises here their hands aren't usually very strong to begin with and it's rare in this situation that the flop hits so hard that you get a set and while your opponent gets a good second best hand he's willing to take all the way (something like 2 pair). unless they're bad of course and can't get away from TP crap kicker. most of the big pots you win with a set occur in a raised pot where someone can't get away from TPTK or an overpair.
krup24
raise preflop, bet the flop, don't commit all ur chips on the river when the only hands that are going to call are a flush or a straight.
MasterLJ
Just call next time?

You have the 13th nuts or so. Not a raising hand.
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