Hand #4938329-60 at Salisbury ($.25/$.50 Omaha 8/B)
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Started at 17/Mar/05 13:38:07

Talbot Lake is at seat 0 with $7.55.
mijas is at seat 1 with $9.65.
Petoria is at seat 2 with $9.
kelmri is at seat 3 with $22.60.
Ramps is at seat 4 with $20.55.
bigernie is at seat 5 with $25.55.
UltimateJunk is at seat 6 with $30.60.
MoMan is at seat 7 with $10.
Lark is at seat 8 with $25.10.
SPANKMEHARDER is at seat 9 with $7.95.
The button is at seat 0.

mijas posts the small blind of $.10.
Petoria posts the big blind of $.25.
(MoMan did not post OT, is sitting out.)

Talbot Lake: -- -- -- --
mijas: -- -- -- --
Petoria: Jh 8c 8h 9d
kelmri: -- -- -- --
Ramps: -- -- -- --
bigernie: -- -- -- --
UltimateJunk: -- -- -- --
Lark: -- -- -- --
SPANKMEHARDER: -- -- -- --

Pre-flop:

kelmri calls. Ramps calls. bigernie calls.
UltimateJunk calls. Lark calls. SPANKMEHARDER
calls. Talbot Lake folds. mijas calls. Petoria
checks.

Flop (board: Th 6h 8d):

mijas checks. Petoria bets $.25. kelmri raises to
$.50. Ramps calls. bigernie calls. UltimateJunk
calls. Lark folds. SPANKMEHARDER folds. mijas
folds. Petoria calls.

Turn (board: Th 6h 8d 2s):

Petoria bets $.50. kelmri raises to $1. Ramps
calls. bigernie calls. UltimateJunk folds.
Petoria calls.

River (board: Th 6h 8d 2s Qs):

Petoria checks. kelmri bets $.50. Ramps calls.
bigernie calls. Petoria raises to $1. kelmri
re-raises to $1.50. Ramps folds. bigernie folds.
Petoria calls.



Showdown:

kelmri shows 6d 2d 7d 6s.
kelmri has 6d 6s Th 6h Qs: three sixes (high).
kelmri has no qualifying low hand.
Petoria shows Jh 8c 8h 9d.
Petoria has Jh 9d Th 8d Qs: straight, queen high (high).
Petoria has no qualifying low hand.


Hand #4938329-60 Summary:

$.50 is raked from a pot of $12.50.
Petoria wins $12 with straight, queen high.


When I saw that money come to me, I was about as surprised as anyone.
I love when fish fall in love with bottom set and an inside str8 draw. That check-raise on the river probably won me $6, which is pretty cool. Just thought the pot was weird. Almost 3 bet the flop but it would've lost me money.


Just thought some of you would like to see why there are those of us who play O8 so much.

Raising the river's not great, NH though.

You'd fold it pre-flop if it wasn't in the BB, right?

of course i fold preflop, but when it comes to raising on the river i think it's more likely that two ppl have the nut low and i'm going to quarter them than them quartering me. Would you agree with that?

Would you agree with that?


Nope.

You have a straight for the nut high, it's equaly vunerable as the nut low is here and you're getting 1/2 value on your raises almost always with no low.

Worked out ok, but more cooincidence than cause and effect.

I see what you're saying, thanks for the advice smash.

i think the raise on the river is good.

i agree that the chance of quartering with the high here is just as good, but you have to watch the way it got played.

the villian here raised on flop and the turn, which i think is a pretty good sign he has made his hand there. If he also had J9, he is unlikely raising the flop, and almost definitely not raising the turn.

There are two other players in the hand, but either of them is raising with J-9 when the villian leads out on the river. Having seen the way the villian played the hand, and then seeing the two smooth calls on his river lead, it would be a great indication that the nuts here are good for half the pot. Raise for value.

I also forgot to mention that kelmri was the most aggressive player at that table, he bet after the flop on anything. I knew I had him beat and could be quartering the other two. I think the play is marginal, more often than not the play is going to result in the pot being split, but this time i got lucky.

i think the raise on the river is good.


Everyone's entitled to their own oppinion, but you're wrong.