On the HU League site the amount donated by FCP was not official, Do we have an official word as of yet?

My suggestion for next season is that we include a "Best Overall Record" for each conference.

Also how about a freeroll for the top 10 in the Office Pool?

Just a suggestion. I think these home field one game lead advantages are a little much. One game is a lot in Heads up. A possible alternative (And I don't even know if it's software possible) would be to have the home team start with 2000 chips and the away team with 1500. The team with home field advantage would be home team in games 1, 2 and 5 (If necessary) and the away team would have 2000 chips in games 3 and 4. Just throwin' it out there for next season.

sleuthis mentioned at one point that the payouts were all set.

i like the 1 game advantage. maybe its because i'm a one seed. not sure.

i'M THE HOME TEAM IN THE FIRST ROUND THIS YEAR, SO i'M NOT COMPLAINING, BUT IT WOULD BE A BAD SITUATION IF i SNUCK MY WAY INTO THE PLAYOFFS ONLY TO FIND OUT i/M ALREADY DOWN 1-0 VS. nEGREANU. oH YEAH, FORGOT MY CAPS LOCK WAS ON AND DON'T FEEL LIKE RETYPING, SORRY.

Anyone care to set a line on ALL the home teams winning their series with a 1-0 head start? I'd have to say it was 3-1 or better on a home team sweep of all series...

here's hoping.

no faith in your teammates gruven??

The one game advantage is ridiculous!!

I was obviously away when that decision was made cuz i woulda have voiced an opinion on it.

Being a top seed incentive is the fact that you play weaker teams to start the playoffs, Not head starts


thats honestly retarded...


Frank: "Hey Jim, why dont you race my kid brother Mikey, he's got downsyndrome"

Jim: "well ok man, but i get a headstart"

SHHHHHHHHH..... im trying to make zim overconfident....

ill bet you $1000 on 3-1 that there isnt a home team sweep in all series...

I'll guarantee that if we make the playoffs after our 1 game tie breaker, that we will in fact win our 1st playoff series. even down 1 game.

Hey...we all knew about the 1-game advantage from Day 1 when this was just an idea.

That's why I emphasized the importance of regular season every single week to my team.

It's not surprising that the complaints are coming from the wild cards.

complaints??I'm not complaining, I just think its retarded, i never knew this was an idea. I payed the 500., picked a team, followed the 1st initial layout, and i was swamped on top of that.
Honestly, you think i would let something like that go without voicing my opinion? comon u know me better than that.

Royal Tour's outspoken?

No way...I've been meaning to say that you need to voice your opinion more. You're wayyy too quiet!!






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if you've been busy the whole year, fine, but i'm pretty sure it's been on the website since day one.

It has been on the website from Day One. Again, I'm not complaining because it actually helps me, I'm just pointing out the fact that this is a HUGE advantage. It does make the regular season that much more important, but so does a larger chip stack.

i dont know,
Last thing i remember was talk about normal structure or slow structure for blinds.
after that, i was out of the loop, if anyone remembers Fleung even started a thread saying Royal_Tour doesnt spend enough time in the HU league and he is a captain, blah blah, and he cried a little, but its ok now, cuz we made up

edit:. its cool., like i said, not complaining, cuz technically, i'm not even in the playoffs yet, just think its RKIGS

its been there since day 1. i remember.

It has definately been there since day 1, and in no way am I whining or suggesting the rules should be changed for this year. But, given the parity in the league and the fact that there were at least a half dozen 10-5 teams and no 1-14 teams, it would be fair to suggest that a 1-0 lead in a best of three series is a HUGE advantage. 1-0 in best of 5? closer. Chip advantage? possibly even fairer.... You really want the games to be decided on skill, and when a team only needs 1 win to pull out a series, you definately bring a LOT more luck into the equation...

well the higher seed needs 2 wins, and the lower seed needs 3.

and royal, i think that was the most asinine, nonsensical use of RKIGS ive seen to date.




well done.

I agree that this is something we should look into for next year - while I don't think a 1-game advantage is unreasonable in a best of 7 series, it really is very strong in a best of 5 series. On the other hand, I think the teams that did the best in the regular season should be rewarded, and the seeding system doesn't really guarantee that - look at the KitH/LL, one of them was going to be seeded low despite both being great teams.

I wouldn't mind a 2000-1500 chip advantage in all games next year for the home team.

rkigs fit perfectly. it was job well done, so i take this as a compliment.

This sounds more fair, but I doubt it's possible. 1-0 I think is too big of an advantage, unless the series became 7 game series.




Well done.

I think I love you.

next year, especially if there are more games in the season, it'd probly be better to have all series at 7 games like in the NBA. I don't think the software here can start people with different amount of chips, but 1-0 in best of 7 is a reasonable advantage for a higher seeded team.
And in the wildcard round, I believe no way the home team sweeps all four matches. Royal's winning, I'm winning, thats already two right there. On a serious note, if you do the math and make every individual match 50/50 you can find the actual probability this would happen. I've done it but Ill leave it to someone else to post the results

you sir are a master strategist

Sorry, ain't gonna work. This one's gonna be 2 matches and done.

While a 1-0 lead is big, having a 4-3 chip advantage in every match is big too. There should be some reward for finishing in a top seed. I think next year we should look at making it a 7 game series with the higher seed getting one game.

Lindros

i agree that a one game lead given the higher seed in a best of seven series is a more reasonable reward than in a best of five series for next year.

1. As the co-creator (props to Yoda and Ron Mexico) and primary patent maker of RKIGS, Royal has used the term the same way Americans make fun of Canadians saying "eh"...close but not quite the right context. Admittedly though, if RKIGS is used in this manner by popular posters (eg. Royal) often enough it will be like Head Up and Hold'em which is more commonly seen as Heads Up and Holdem now.

2. While 7-game series reduces the advantage of the 1 win start does everyone really have the time to play for possibly 8 hours for several Sundays in a row?

3. I can assure you SnGs or tournaments aren't going to be able to start with different chip stacks anytime soon. Christ, they can't fix the minimum turn bet problem.

4. At the end of the day I don't really care about the format as long as it's clearly spelled out at the beginning of the year and followed through. We all play on the same playing field that way.

the strategy is obviously working

After reading through this thread (and yes I have known the rules all year long, just never really gave them much thought until reading this thread), I wonder why the higher seeds should really get a "home field advantage" throughout the playoffs.

I mean, 1 and 2 seeds get a bye in the first round. That's a pretty decent reward.

The top 4 seeds all get a nice cash payout for winning the division. That's a pretty decent reward as well.

Oh not to mention the number 1 team overall getting a prize on top of that.

Isn't that reward enough? With the rules we have now, they get ALL that (on a short 15 game season where luck is a huge factor), AND they get a huge one game lead in a 5 game series where they'll probably win more money.

Before any of you tell me that I'm just jealous because I'm on a wildcard team (hopefully), I would feel the same way even if we were the first place team in the league. Hopefully this can change next year.

You're RKIGS

As someone outside the plafoffs looking in, I agree that the 1-0 lead is too much. No other sport gives an advantage this big. It was in the rules all season, so there is no point complaining for this year, but I think that when we try to improve the rules next year, this should be looked at. One possibility is letting the home team choose the time of the match. Imagine an east coast morning person playing a west coast opponent starting the match at 6AM EST, or a west coast night person getting them back by starting at 11PM PST. Not good for the spectators, but it could sure be an advantage.

DOAH!!

I think the home team has to have some advantage. I think 1 game in a 5 game series is a bit extreme, I agree with the 1 game lead in a 7 game series. However, saying that the higher seed's advantage is to play worse teams is ridiculous to me, because there is so much parody in this league.

best freudian slip ever...

parity?

Yeah, that's what I meant. No spellcheck on these forums.

i like the 1-0 lad for the higher sees but i agree with everyon that saying it should be a 7 game series next season...1-0 lead in a 5 game series is too much.

I am a wildcard, but that doesn't change my opinion on this. troy is completely right here. Hell, why even continue on just divide up the money at the end. There isn't a sports league in existence, ever that gave such a huge advantage in the playoffs. It's really riciculous and should be changed next year.



7 games on one Sunday is way to much. it should be best of 5 with no advantage to either team. Or even best of 3 would be fine and probably best. Thinking even more about it, we play ONE heads up game all year, why change it? It should just be ONE game.



At least you agree it's too much as well.

Randy, there has to be some advantage given to the higher seeded team. In a game like football, it is good enough to play a worse team, because it has less of a likelyhood for an upset. The teams are too evenly matched to give no advantage to the higher seeded team in this league.

If you are the better team why do you need an advantage? If you have the best record you get the advantage of playing the worst seeded team, like any other sport. Do wildcard teams in footbally have to spot the Division champs a touchdown? Wouldn't that seem silly? Same thing.


As troy said, they get more money for being division champs among other things as a benefit. It shouldn't be changed this year obviously but it definately should next year.

The Steelers won the Super Bowl as a Wildcard Team this year. So will Kings In The Hole.



















I hope..

edited for intelligence purposes

don't the wildcard teams in football have to spot the division champs home field advantage?

pretty nice advantage, no?

Im guessing the reason Daniel set it up this way is to give the regular season real meaning. Good idea, though i do think giving a game up in a best of five is a bit stiff. one in best of seven seems more fair.

As for the idea of the playoffs being just one game, two thumbs down.

Just a quick question...but is the website all screwed up for everyone? Missing pictures, bad formatting, etc?

OK, now back to your regularly scheduled programming...

Baw, we'll look at next year when the season is done. Everything is set in stone for this playoff season so no use in crying now. I'm sure Darrell and Daniel will look back at our first season and tweak it as need be.

omg

i just read this post i made thursday morning...lmao...what language is that?

if this is how im posting at 10AM, you guys can imagine how bad i play in the mornings.

thank God DN is thinking about getting rid of all the 10AM games.