ok - after a little work - this is the seedings for both divisions. If anyone finds this incorrect - please let me know (I havent had much sleep - lol)

Hearts Spades

1) 5150's
2) CHEAP THIEVES
3) HC DUKES
4) THE CZARS
5) TEAM ARENAS
6) BAYSIDE

Spades
1) DEMENTED AVENGERS
2) TEAM CANADA
3) LOOSHLE'S LOSERS
4) ZIMMER
5) KINGS IN THE HOLE
6) OH YOU CALL, I CALL? or YANGSTERS


Playoff games will be played Satuday Aug 5.

Round 1 games (all games) will be played Sunday Aug 6.

Please arrange a time with your opponent for that day. (I was going to put a time on it but it seems there is a lot of re-scheduling lately.)

1st round games are best of 5 with the higher seed starting 1-0. All games must be played sunday. Teams can use any player on their team for any game of the series.

Please post final results (for the series) with a recap. Results for each individual game are not necessary. I will add a thread under the post game.

Best overall record will be split amounst Looshle's losers, Demented Avengers, Team Canada, kings in the hole and 5150's



OK - that should be it...............any questions, issues, problems?

In the Spades Conference, Looshle's Losers gets the 3 seed because of Conference record. It looks like Demented Avengers has a 5-1 record against Common Opponents with Team Canada, whereas Canada has a 4-2 record. Only Problem I see.

That's what I have for hearts, I can explain how I got it if you need me to so we can get this cleared up.

Well, there are the original tiebreakers, which include Division record, etc... which he must be using, rather than what we agreed on in the one thread where we discussed using common opponents.

I think given the original tiebreakers, Hearts is accurate, but I haven't had much sleep either.

looks like there could be some reseedings in the hearts conference. As much as I woud enjoy playing Daniel, we would love to have a shot at conference rivals Czars again. Either way, I'll be playing on my birthday, so that has to give me some luck, right.

Edit: Right when I posted this hearts got reseeded. Rematch for Bobby Baldwin Czarioooo

TY for the fix on the OP Darrell.

I'm with Zimmer on the DA/TC thing, but it doesn't really matter to me since I am now a free agent.

So demented gets the number 1 seed then.............my head hurts right now.


thanks bizzle..........2 (or 3 or 4 heads) make this easier to look at

Yeah, Demented gets 1 seed, Canada gets 2, rest is correct and contingent on the 1 game Yangsters/Oh You Call Playoff.

hooray playoffs.

who will face the 5150s?

The lowest seeded team after the Wildcard games are done.

Question: Kings in the Hole also finished 10-5, why are they not a part of the best record group?

Only 1 team per division could be included. Since Looshle wins tiebreakers over them, they aren't included.

it was more of a rhetorical question asking who will step up from the 4-5-6 seeds, but thanks for answering.

No problem, always here to help.

LOL, that kick to the nuts that Kings in the Hole took from Sam HArd 8 just keeps getting more and more painful.

Boy..this hurts. How many more beats can I take this week?

Congrats to all.


Gonna start drinking I guess...

It was helpful to me!

I'm tired of being Elias, he is no longer amusing

they are, sorry just missed them

Shouldn't HC Dukes be seeded 2nd and Cheap Thieves 3rd? There's no head to head record, tied for conference record and HC Dukes has a better division record. Let me know what I'm missing, if anything?

Thanks.

I think it's fine as it is, it's obvious the Cheap Thieves don't want to face Bayside right away, we'll allow it.

good

Sigh...

Good Luck to all teams that made the playoffs. I still think we are better served by not using tiebreakers to ELIMINATE teams from playoff, but the system is in place and we have to stick to it. It just sucks that there are 6 teams...yes 6...at 8-7 in the Hearts...5 of them made the playoffs...only one doesn't have a chance to win the title...at the end of the day...is that fair?

Besides...who wanted to play the team that hasn't lost in well over a month!!!

Kudos to Sleuth for running such a GREAT league!!! THANKS!!!

Good Luck to all!!!!

Vick12

HA!

If you think for once second your 3 - 5 arse is playing for us, we need to have a talk asap.

If you guys would be more comfortable forfeiting, that would work for me. Just let me know.

oh you, you're so cute

you better watch it before I kick you off the team like Bizzle. Its my team and I'm playing every playoff game sucka

oh boy, this thread has a lot of potentiol.

Okay, okay...Bizzle and Zim...now you can say, "I told ya so!"

I suppose I should be happy about getting $200 for the best record.

I feel bad for choking that last game, do you wanna play HU for the duece? I am happy to split it but I feel like I ripped you off the $500 for best record. And no, we are not going to settle this on the basketball court

Im confused too. Are we using a different tiebreaker procedure than is on the site?

Yeah, we changed it for tiebreakers that don't involve 2 division opponents.

It goes:
Head to Head
Conference Record
Common Opponents
1-game playoff

Is that a freeroll or are you just trying to take my money again?

When did we do that?

its not on the site at all.

It has been discussed, ad nauseum, across several threads.

Go peek at the NFL tiebreakers-we attempted to mirror them. If one team is 10-5 and they went 6-0 in a division where second place was a 4-11 team, and another team is 10-5 and they went 5-1 in a division where second place was a 9-6 team, it isn't fair to award the first team for beating up on crappy teams in their own division.

Congrats to all the teams that made the Best Record!

Ahh, i found the policy Darrell used in a thread about 4 pages back.(is that what ad nauseum means? my Latin is very rusty) I'm not a big fan of adding and/or changing rules midseason but what can you do i guess? I'm an indian not a chief. Not a big deal for me anyways, it's only the difference between survivng an extra round of playoffs then should I do so playing Daniel and the Cheap Thieves down 1-0 instead of up 1-0.

It really wasn't a change. We had tiebreakers defined for ties among the same teams within a division. We had no tiebreakers defined for ties among teams in different divisions. We took the NFL tiebreakers and applied them here.

it why i wrote adding and/or changing. the rules on the site do give rules for tiebreakers, but it does say for two teams, not multiples. it doesn't say anything about whether those two teams are in the same division or not, just says two. i don't even disagree with the process used, just think it shoud've been in the rules before the season, not put together 4 weeks ago.

I promise this next question isn't being a smartass, I just don't know if i missed stuff. People keep saying we throughout this thread in referencing this rule. Was it voted on somewhere? Or did Darrell just think it made sense to add it? Who's we?

michael

After 40 days in the Vegas sun, hell no it's not a freeroll. Your playing good poker and I'm not so I felt like giving you a shot at the money. Just a thought...

So the answer is b.) trying to take my money

We is I brought it up to Darrell quite a while ago, we discussed it via PMs, he made a thread about it to toss around potential ideas, pretty much everyone agreed that using the existing tiebreakers for teams that weren't in the same division and/or multiple teams was retarded, and we implemented a system that mimic'ed the NFL system, and noone had a single problem.

it was added about week 10 once it was realized we had no concrete tiebreaker for multiple teams.

my bad tho, I assumed everyone reads thru this and should have updated the rules page. For the time being I am leaving the rules page as is, there may be small changes for the next season and I would like to adjust them all at once.

Sorry if I am slow in replying to some of these, I am just not on that often while I am in vegas.

:sympathy face:

EDIT:

Answered my own question already.

By the looks of it, teams are reseeded and rematched after each round.

Does the home team get a 1 game lead in round 2 also?

every round except the hearts/spades fcp bowl showdown.