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zimmer4141
Well, 6 seed is still up for grabs, but here's how it shakes out.


1. Demented Avengers
2. Team Canada
3. Looshle's Losers
4. Team Zimmer
5. Kings in the Hole
6. Winner of Oh you call I call/Yangsters Playoff
fleung22
QUOTE (zimmer4141 @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 3:51 PM) *
Well, 6 seed is still up for grabs, but here's how it shakes out.
1. Demented Avengers
2. Team Canada
3. Looshle's Losers
4. Team Zimmer
5. Kings in the Hole
6. Winner of Oh you call I call/Yangsters Playoff


Why is Team Canada automatically #2? Don't we play Demented for first overall?
zimmer4141
QUOTE (fleung22 @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 3:59 PM) *
Why is Team Canada automatically #2? Don't we play Demented for first overall?


No, Demented has you by common opponents.

QUOTE (zimmer4141 @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 4:01 PM) *
No, Demented has you by common opponents.


My bad, you are tied in everything I guess, so you guys would playoff for the #1 seed.
therrinn
QUOTE (fleung22 @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 6:59 PM) *
Why is Team Canada automatically #2? Don't we play Demented for first overall?


We have you in common opponents (record of 5-1 vs 4-2)
lindros88
QUOTE (therrinn @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 5:13 PM) *
We have you in common opponents (record of 5-1 vs 4-2)


Can you confirm Sleuthis?
XX44466XX
QUOTE (lindros88 @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 5:16 PM) *
Can you confirm Sleuthis?

That would be official.
Theraflu
QUOTE (therrinn @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 4:13 PM) *
We have you in common opponents (record of 5-1 vs 4-2)




thats what i get
fleung22
QUOTE (zimmer4141 @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 3:51 PM) *
1. Demented Avengers
2. Team Canada
3. Looshle's Losers


Okay, I will attempt to make sense of this (but be forewarned...I could totally mess this up). Before we go to record for common opponents overall shouldn't it go to common opponents within the teams fighting for the tie breaker?

Amongst the top 3 teams in the quote above D-Avengers has not had to play Canada or Looshle (hell, they didn't even have to play Zimmer...talk about a Hearts-type schedule).

Team Canada beat Looshle in their match.

So out of the teams fighting for first its:

Team Canada 1-0
Demented Avengers 0-0
Looshle's Losers 0-1

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Imagine it like this, had we played each other more often and it looked like the following (bracket is common opponents overall) then it would be more obvious that the record for common opponents fighting for top spot makes more sense.

Team Canada 3-1 (5-3)
Looshle Losers 2-2 (6-2)
Demented Avengers 1-3 (5-3)

EDIT: Oh screw it...nothing's official until Darrell says it's official.
therrinn
QUOTE (fleung22 @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 8:33 PM) *
Okay, I will attempt to make sense of this (but be forewarned...I could totally mess this up). Before we go to record for common opponents overall shouldn't it go to common opponents within the teams fighting for the tie breaker?

Amongst the top 3 teams in the quote above D-Avengers has not had to play Canada or Looshle (hell, they didn't even have to play Zimmer...talk about a Hearts-type schedule).

Team Canada beat Looshle in their match.

So out of the teams fighting for first its:

Team Canada 1-0
Demented Avengers 0-0
Looshle's Losers 0-1

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Imagine it like this, had we played each other more often and it looked like the following (bracket is common opponents overall) then it would be more obvious that the record for common opponents fighting for top spot makes more sense.

Team Canada 3-1 (5-3)
Looshle Losers 2-2 (6-2)
Demented Avengers 1-3 (5-3)


Nope. You're skipping the first tiebreaker after overall record, which is conference record. Demented Avengers and Team Canada have 8-4 records, Looshle's Losers have 7-5, so Looshle's Losers are eliminated based on that.

Then you have DA vs TC. We have the same overall record, same conference record, and haven't played heads up. The next one after that is common opponents, which DA (5-1) has over TC (4-2).
Theraflu
i say we chop the grand. who's with me
copernicus
QUOTE (fleung22 @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 9:33 PM) *
Okay, I will attempt to make sense of this (but be forewarned...I could totally mess this up). Before we go to record for common opponents overall shouldn't it go to common opponents within the teams fighting for the tie breaker?

Amongst the top 3 teams in the quote above D-Avengers has not had to play Canada or Looshle (hell, they didn't even have to play Zimmer...talk about a Hearts-type schedule).

Team Canada beat Looshle in their match.

So out of the teams fighting for first its:

Team Canada 1-0
Demented Avengers 0-0
Looshle's Losers 0-1


Demented Avengers 1-3 (5-3)

EDIT: Oh screw it...nothing's official until Darrell says it's official.


Amen to the last statement! but what therrinn said above..conference tiebreaker knocks LL out. Even if that was tied the heads up that you show still has LL out.
fleung22
The thing that upsets me is that in week 14 someone (I really can't remember who) had figured the whole tiebreaking scheme.

There seemed to be two popular beliefs.

The first had Team Canada somehow winning the tiebreaker and then the second was a playoff match.

Both sound pretty good right? Where are those people now!?!
therrinn
QUOTE (fleung22 @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 8:45 PM) *
The thing that upsets me is that in week 14 someone (I really can't remember who) had figured the whole tiebreaking scheme.

There seemed to be two popular beliefs.

The first had Team Canada somehow winning the tiebreaker and then the second was a playoff match.

Both sound pretty good right? Where are those people now!?!


I'm pretty sure that none of us were expecting the abysmal performance of absolutely all of the top ranked teams.
fleung22
QUOTE (therrinn @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 5:46 PM) *
I'm pretty sure that none of us were expecting the abysmal performance of absolutely all of the top ranked teams.


QFMFT
copernicus
QUOTE (fleung22 @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 9:48 PM) *
QFMFT


thats a new one to me....french canadian?
fleung22
QUOTE (copernicus @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 5:56 PM) *
thats a new one to me....french canadian?


QFMFT = quoted for mother fukkin' truth

EDIT:

Just thought of an idea. Some people like money now more than others. How about you guys all split the $1000 and Team Canada gets none of that but Team Canada gets home advantage for the playoffs? Can we even make deals like this?
troyomac
When is our playoff supposed to take place?
copernicus
QUOTE (fleung22 @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 9:57 PM) *
QFMFT = quoted for mother fukkin' truth

EDIT:

Just thought of an idea. Some people like money now more than others. How about you guys all split the $1000 and Team Canada gets none of that but Team Canada gets home advantage for the playoffs? Can we even make deals like this?


5150s might have something to say about the 1k if DA somehow didnt win the spades, since they beat Team Canada on commons. LL does crush 5150s on common opponents though.
lindros88
QUOTE (copernicus @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 7:34 PM) *
5150s might have something to say about the 1k if DA somehow didnt win the spades, since they beat Team Canada on commons. LL does crush 5150s on common opponents though.


We'll have to wait and see for sure.
mcpickl
Is this thread really titled "It's Official"?

thats good stuff
Theraflu
QUOTE (mcpickl @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 7:05 PM) *
Is this thread really titled "It's Official"?

thats good stuff



Yes. and this is Zimmer's first sentence: Well, 6 seed is still up for grabs, but here's how it shakes out.
zimmer4141
Yeah, Demented Avengers get the 1 seed because of common opponents. Canada gets the 2 seed, and Looshle is knocked out of the 3 way tiebreaker because of a worse conference record. Zimmer gets the 4 seed because he sucks. Kings get the 5 seed, and Winner of Yangsters/Oh You Call playoff gets the 6 seed.
fleung22
Where's Darrell to stop this madness!?!
Bizzle
QUOTE (fleung22 @ Tuesday, August 1st, 2006, 12:18 AM) *
Where's Darrell to stop this madness!?!

The first post is correct. I don't know why you need Darrell around.
gruven
Okay, just remember, if you guys are going to chop the money amongst 10-5 teams regardless of tiebreakers, you better include ALL the 10-5 teams.... biggrin.gif
fleung22
QUOTE (Bizzle @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 8:32 PM) *
The first post is correct. I don't know why you need Darrell around.


Nothing's official until The Man says it is.

I wouldn't bet against you but I'm not gonna assume anything until I hear the official word from an official.

I'm like that dude in Shawshank Redemption...I have hope! smile.gif
zimmer4141
QUOTE (fleung22 @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 9:15 PM) *
Nothing's official until The Man says it is.

I wouldn't bet against you but I'm not gonna assume anything until I hear the official word from an official.

I'm like that dude in Shawshank Redemption...I have hope! smile.gif


Well, however it shakes out you've got a bye. And you don't have to face me in the 2nd round unless the 6 seed can pull an upset, so you've got that going for you.
The Czar
The Man has spoken
zimmer4141
Well, on the page, Darrell has it listed as a 1 game playoff for the #1 seed, which shouldn't be right by the tiebreaking procedures listed. Demented Avengers have an edge in Common Opponents, therefore they win the head to head tiebreaker once Looshle's Losers are eliminated by conference record.
Bizzle
QUOTE (zimmer4141 @ Tuesday, August 1st, 2006, 1:24 AM) *
Well, on the page, Darrell has it listed as a 1 game playoff for the #1 seed, which shouldn't be right by the tiebreaking procedures listed. Demented Avengers have an edge in Common Opponents, therefore they win the head to head tiebreaker once Looshle's Losers are eliminated by conference record.

Correct. I look forward to seeing an explanations.

Hearts looks completely different from what I expected. I wonder what changed here.
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