Best Poker show on tv....bar none.

My only gripe....I wish they would get some announcers who know how to announce and who can explain why the players are doing what they are doing. How many more times are we going to have to hear about how this is the most prestigious tournament in the world.

i couldnt believe that Bigler would insult Jen Harman like that. what an assclown.

Yeah, the other guy (not Seif) consistenly makes poker-related mistakes when calling the action. Other wise, pretty good stuff.



I missed that. What did Bigler say?

griped at her for calling down with 2nd pair and an open ended straight draw.

He can say what ever he wants about her. He plays regularly in the Big Game at Bellagio/Venetian with the likes of Doyle, Phil, Chip, DN, etc. He is also widely considered to be one of the best all around poker players in the world. Also a multiple bracelet winner at the WSOP.


Oh wait, nevermind....that's Jennifer Harman. My bad. I was confused.

Yikes one outer! Take that corkins.

I can't figure out why Juanda's nickname is "Luckbox".

Ancient Chinese Secret.

And JJ makes a great laydown.

What a beating Hoyt Corkins took. Two big hands and rivered both times.

What an unbelievable final table....Harmon, Forrest, Elezra, and Harrington

That was a great laydown. Did anyone see the guy who called a clock on Ngyen after 15 seconds? What an idiot. I felt bad for Ngyen, he was steamin after that goon put the clock on him

You forgot Juanda.

for the record this isnt the best poker show on tv, HSP is

It is really disheartening...

You play against a guy like Juanda..you finally catch a card on him and he is stone dead...and then..HE JUST PULLS WHATEVER CARD HE NEEDS OUT OF HIS ***.

Poker is all skill.

luckbox + Skill = Unbeatable.

Luck+fresh air=unbeatable

Those asian guys always hit their outs.

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Oh, wait ... that thread has been done.

nice one. i almost didn't finish reading your post though to begin flaming

Agreed. The PPT is pretty good but the announcers are terrible. Seif is so F-ing loud, and his commentary is way off. When Corkins had J6 and moved in b/c his M was like 2 and Seif gave him **** for it I was ready to hit the mute button.

You don't get rivered when all the money is in before the flop. If all the money is in before the flop, it doesn't matter in which way the cards come.

So whats it called when they hit there card on the River?

Yah, I was gonna say.
He got all his money in with QQ vs AK.
While not an overwhelming fav, he was slightly ahead.
So wasnt Corkins lucky for hitting an A on the flop as well?

The guy is lucky Hoyt didn't come across the table and bull dog is Swiss *** to the floor.

I can't believe I need to explain this...

AK vs QQ is a coin flip... QQ loses all the time to AK and 88 loses to A9..etc...

After Corkins hits his A...it is known that Bigler folded a Q...so there was one queen left in the deck.

The odds of that card coming on the river was about 45 to 1.

So you see WHY now?

Anybody know how many get paid?

I was in the bathroom the 132 times they said it tonight alone.

seif is pretty terrible if you ask me. hsp is the best poker show on tv anyone who thinks differently doesnt know poker.

doesnt mark seif announce this?

Pretty sure its just the final 6 that get the cash.

If I were Chris Bigler I would walk my fat ass into oncoming traffic.

uugghhhhhh....is there not a thread somewhere just bashing the announcers. theyre effing incredible.

Bigler limps UTG with J8c, some limpers call, Goering completes with 82o, Harmon checks with 7h8h

flop is like 6c7s9d checked to Bigler who bets like 6k into like the 15k pot. Georing and Harmon call.

turn is like a 3c, giving Bigler a flush draw as well. They check to him and he bets 12k into like a 40k pot. Goering fold and Harmon calls. the river is a 8, not a club and they both check. Harmon shows her two pair and Bigler critizes her saying it was a terrible play and blah blah blah

thats why you really shouldnt try to bluff someone with a bet of like 1/4th the pot. with his huge draw Bigler shoulda made a big bet or checked

Chris Bigler and Eskimo Clarke should hook up

It's so strange....seeing Hoyt receiving beats rather than giving them. Although I HATED his check on that flop. He's only a 65/35 favorite, which isn't very good odds to trap someone for all their chips.

I agree though, good show. I personally like Mark Seif's announcing. I've always wondered, in the WPT, when Mike Sexton and VVP are announcing on site, if the players ever hear them talking.

Have to say I agree...but the PPT IS a distant second.

Here we go , another guy who thinks they are good enough to not put all their money in 65/35.

let me guess u fold AK vs QJ

seriously, do you think that pro's should be god's and only trap when they have them dominated.

Don't get me wrong, I'll take 65/35 all day but I mean, he had a pair of 6's. With a 7 kicker. Not something I'll trap with too often.

did u forget the sw in your post? My post completely stated that I think they aren't gods to pass up 65/35 spots.... plz read carefully

they tape the final table live and then sexton and VVP go through it and announce they dont announce live

Which is why they are pros and you arent



didnt forget the sw, just addressed it to the wrong person

I was under the impression that they did part of the announcing live and part of it taped. They're certainly sitting there in the booth during some of the tournaments (players have come over and talked to them or overheard them).

As for last night's PPT, does anyone else think that it's a bad play for Corkins to push the AK there? Harman raises, Bigler calls, and Juanda pushes in...I'd seriously have to consider laying the hand down. The only thing that I can think is that Corkins figured Juanda might be pulling a squeeze play...but even then...it's pretty risky.

They actually announce the FT live, they just have no access to hole cards while the event is live. They do, however, do some commentary while it is being played. They just go back over and edit it all once they are able to see the cards. To me, sounds kind of dumb and i like your idea better. But i think the "element of surprise" is lost (if they don't do it live first) with certain situations.

Also, i don't know if i've seen this program before, anyone know what station it's carried on in Ontario, Canada, if it is picked up. - thanks

It's on the travel channel here, don't know if you have that. The same channel that carries WPT.

This is why I hate they show %s with the cards already mucked

Yeah, I don't think Hoyt analyzed the hand very much as he pushed rather quickly, or at least, that's how it was shown on TV. Did you see Juanda's reaction to when Hoyt flipped his hand up? He looked pretty disgusted and thought for sure he had to have AA to push all in there. You gotta put Juanda on at least 1010 or JJ and so you're in a coinflip at best. With Bigler and Harman in the hand, they almost have to have at least one of your outs. I think if Corkins had analyzed the hand a bit more he could've/would've laid it down.

Ron Rose is a slowrolling *******. I hate that ************.

So is there any way to explain Rose's slowrolling. This is twice now they've shown him doing it if I recall correctly.

I dont know. If i had been at the table I would of called his *** out.

Yeah me too. Harrington showed some amazing restraingt

I was glad to see Juanda win it, I don't like Bigler. I agree it was lame that Rose slowrolled his pocket Jacks. What's there to think about there when it's a short-handed game and the short stack moves all-in?