Bellagio 15/30 LHE (9-handed)

Cobalt is CO w/ 6 5 . My image is tight. Game is loose-passive. MP2 is a loose donkey of an old man. He seriously seems to have no idea how to play. Button is tight-passive.

Pre-flop:
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Cobalt calls, Button raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Cobalt calls

Flop (12.5 SB): 9 6 5 (6 players)
2 checks, MP2 bets, 1 fold, Cobalt raises, 3 folds, MP2 calls

Turn (8.25 BB): 3 (3 players)
MP2 checks, Cobalt bets, MP2 calls

River (10.25 BB): 7 (3 players)
MP2 bets, Cobalt calls

Final Pot: 12.25 BB


Still in the standard camp, right?

just the way i would have played it. there isnt much of a reason for raising on the river.

Depending on how much of a donkey, and specific reads, you could argue for raise/calling or raise/folding the river, but in that pot, I'm getting to a showdown with two pair. The river sucks, and its HU, so at best not raising is a tiny mistake. More likely, I think calling is better.

Everywhere else seems very standard. In fact, these hands have all been so standard and perfectly played that I'm cringing at the thought of hearing your results.

I raise/fold the river.

i prefer just calling

there's so many dangerous hands raising seems to waste an extra bb hand if he has a higher two pair or the straight

UNLESS

you've seen him bet the river w/a single pair. I've been seeing that a lot in online 3/6 lately. I lead all the way to river and then the punk bets so I simply call worried that he might river a 2pair or something, when in fact he shows top pair bad kicker

youre right.

One of those times when you hate to just call, but I think that's right. I don't think you're ahead more than 2/3 here.

GB

I don't mean to nitpick, but I just want to clarify something concerning the whole 2/3 line of thought. You are risking 2 to win 1, but by calling the raise, you are assuming you win some small % of the time that is greater than your pot odds, if not, you would fold. And those times you are best, you win 2 bets instead of one. So in practical terms, you really only have to be good somewhere around 60% of the time to make the raise. Again, not to nitpick, youre line of thought is correct. The 2/3 thing is just a pet peeve of mine.

what about when the guy re raises you and then you are in 3 bets?

Fold.

I didn't think I was ahead often enough to be able to put in a raise. That said, I did think there was a slight enough chance that I was ahead to put in the call.

Grandpa donkey turned over 5 4 for the runner-runner.

why would you even put the raise in if when the guy re raises you fold? why not just call instead? because you have a marginal hand that is worth just calling.

I never advocated a raise fold line, however, here are it's merits:

1. Get value from worse hands

2. Fold some better hands

3. We don't get 3 bet by worse hands ever, so we can easily fold to a 3-bet

It's a very small play in terms of overall value vs just calling, but if applied in the right places, it can be +ev.

no i understood why you would do it, but what better hands can the guy have that he will fold?

Yeah, I agree, I think it sucks here.