zsta2k6
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 11:07 AM
QUOTE (gruven @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 10:56 AM)

a substitute takes care of my problem. I'm still in.... lol (btw, I emailed you but didnt see my name on the list)
Got your email, just not updating the list until tonight
QUOTE (eYank @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 11:03 AM)

so for the 1st round ($5 sng) you are still playing for the payout as well right, not just for points and so on for each round?
correct, the 6 man will be winner take all, with the winner getting $30 from the sng itself, and an extra $20 on top of that for the total $50, as well as the points.
QUOTE (nickforgot @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 1:29 PM)

if the low is going to be on fcp you can cross me off the list
can basically do any other site except fcp
Currently, the low will be on either FCP with at least a modified payout, or it will be on Absolute with the exact structure outlined in the rules above
TB17
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 11:18 AM
nickforgot
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 11:28 AM
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 7:14 AM)

1st-10 pts
2nd-7 pts
3rd-4 pts
4th-0 pts
The top 2 in each group will advance to the next round.
See
as pointed out that is where the glitch is
the second match is more of getting the stars to align
so as Sexton said, it should be the winners advance or
1st-10
2nd-8
3rd- 5
4th- 3
something like that
TB17
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 11:36 AM
You heard it here first. DN will be my substititue.
Willenation
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 11:55 AM
First, I see I'm listed on the unknown, but I PMed you for the high, zsta. Second, it'd be great if we could get some sort of consensus on the site - FCP (if I can play through PokerRoom), Full Tilt, or PokerStars are my options.
zsta2k6
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 12:21 PM
QUOTE (Willenation @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 3:55 PM)

First, I see I'm listed on the unknown, but I PMed you for the high, zsta. Second, it'd be great if we could get some sort of consensus on the site - FCP (if I can play through PokerRoom), Full Tilt, or PokerStars are my options.
the high will be held on FCP, for sure, 100%. The list will be updated tonight, and I do have you listed as high on my local list here. But, you will only be able to get to them through the FCP client.
As far as the rule problems in the round of 16, The rules will be changed to accomidate PS3's rules, which are the winner of the first match advances, the second match will play three handed, with the winner of that match advancing. The rule sheet has been updated to reflect these changes.
doublemeup
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 12:39 PM
Couple Questions:
Who can we choose for our substitutes? Anyone? So say we're having a match that I can't play, can I find somebody to play for me and I get the points for where he finishes?
Also, what is the buy in for the smaller event? And what is the payout for the smaller event?
Loismustdie
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 12:45 PM
I like what I am seeing so far, especially the after Labor Day start date that Bob suggested. That would be very convenient considering everything I have up in the air right now.
zsta2k6
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 12:54 PM
QUOTE (doublemeup @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 4:39 PM)

Couple Questions:
Who can we choose for our substitutes? Anyone? So say we're having a match that I can't play, can I find somebody to play for me and I get the points for where he finishes?
Also, what is the buy in for the smaller event? And what is the payout for the smaller event?
Yes, anyone can play as a substitute as long as they have the $5+.5 for the buyin and you give me at least an hours notification before the match. Also note you may only use one substitute.
The buyin for the smaller event is looking like $30 regardless of if it is on FCP or Absolute. However, the payout will be significantly different depending on the site. If the low buyin is held at Absolute, the payout structure will be unchanged, besides the ratio of the payout (rather than $50 for a prelim win, $6... etc... etc (3/25) If it were on FCP, payouts would be no more than a standard sng. In a nutshell, absolute maintains the entire tournament structure, whereas FCP for the low buyin will make it a series of sng with points attached, that's it.
flyingdonkey
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 1:01 PM
I say we keep it here at FCP for the low buy-in.
doublemeup
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 1:08 PM
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 4:54 PM)

Yes, anyone can play as a substitute as long as they have the $5+.5 for the buyin and you give me at least an hours notification before the match. Also note you may only use one substitute.
The buyin for the smaller event is looking like $30 regardless of if it is on FCP or Absolute. However, the payout will be significantly different depending on the site. If the low buyin is held at Absolute, the payout structure will be unchanged, besides the ratio of the payout (rather than $50 for a prelim win, $6... etc... etc (3/25) If it were on FCP, payouts would be no more than a standard sng. In a nutshell, absolute maintains the entire tournament structure, whereas FCP for the low buyin will make it a series of sng with points attached, that's it.
So we can use only one substitute meaning one person or one per round or what exactly?
I don't play on FCP or Absolute so I'm not familiar with the sng payouts, if you could break down the low buy in payout that would be great.
nickforgot
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 1:09 PM
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 2:54 PM)

Yes, anyone can play as a substitute as long as they have the $5+.5 for the buyin and you give me at least an hours notification before the match. Also note you may only use one substitute.
The buyin for the smaller event is looking like $30 regardless of if it is on FCP or Absolute. However, the payout will be significantly different depending on the site. If the low buyin is held at Absolute, the payout structure will be unchanged, besides the ratio of the payout (rather than $50 for a prelim win, $6... etc... etc (3/25) If it were on FCP, payouts would be no more than a standard sng. In a nutshell, absolute maintains the entire tournament structure, whereas FCP for the low buyin will make it a series of sng with points attached, that's it.
and we have the negreanu open for that type of thing
another case for absolute!
zsta2k6
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 1:19 PM
QUOTE (doublemeup @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 5:08 PM)

So we can use only one substitute meaning one person or one per round or what exactly?
I don't play on FCP or Absolute so I'm not familiar with the sng payouts, if you could break down the low buy in payout that would be great.
one substitute meaning you may use one substitution in one match during the preliminary stage.
Low buyin payouts are still unsure at the moment, so I really cant break it down in detail at this point. I should be able to by this time next week though.
NaturalSelection
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 1:24 PM
If you're starting some sort of alternates list for the high buy in or if you have enough interest to go back to the qualifying tourney idea, please sign me up...
doublemeup
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 1:32 PM
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 5:19 PM)

one substitute meaning you may use one substitution in one match during the preliminary stage.
Low buyin payouts are still unsure at the moment, so I really cant break it down in detail at this point. I should be able to by this time next week though.
Oh okay thanks.
Alright thats cool, look forward to seeing them.
EStormOk
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 4:51 PM
I think every effort should be made to keep both the low and high bye-in events on FCP. After all the name is Fcp Superstars!
ChrisRichey
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 5:05 PM
Though I don't have an account with FCP, I think this would give me a good reason to sign up! I think we should keep both tourneys on FCP. Side note: does FCP offer rakeback?
blazerp0410
Monday, July 24th, 2006, 9:29 AM
Do we have enough for the low. I have a guy that might want in if we need another.
eYank
Monday, July 24th, 2006, 10:38 AM
QUOTE (ChrisRichey @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 5:05 PM)

Though I don't have an account with FCP, I think this would give me a good reason to sign up! I think we should keep both tourneys on FCP. Side note: does FCP offer rakeback?
i dont think so
jowest
Monday, July 24th, 2006, 11:57 AM
in an effort to annoy nickforgot (I don't know why) I vote FCP
Mercury69
Monday, July 24th, 2006, 12:00 PM
I vote FCP
JadeTiger
Monday, July 24th, 2006, 12:03 PM
can we still sign up?
zsta2k6
Monday, July 24th, 2006, 12:29 PM
QUOTE (JadeTiger @ Monday, July 24th, 2006, 4:03 PM)

can we still sign up?
yes, since the event will not start until after labor day, I have extended the sign up period.
JadeTiger
Monday, July 24th, 2006, 12:42 PM
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Monday, July 24th, 2006, 3:29 PM)

yes, since the event will not start until after labor day, I have extended the sign up period.
Cool I just emailed my FCP name so add me. Thanks...what are the buyins/qualifiers/schedule? Or has all that been decided yet?
zsta2k6
Monday, July 24th, 2006, 1:28 PM
QUOTE (JadeTiger @ Monday, July 24th, 2006, 4:42 PM)

Cool I just emailed my FCP name so add me. Thanks...what are the buyins/qualifiers/schedule? Or has all that been decided yet?
All known information is in the OP
zsta2k6
Monday, July 24th, 2006, 3:34 PM
My schedule generation program is up for you all to play with if you are interested. The program randomly generates 100 weeks of play, then randomly selects 5 of those to use and outputs them. This version uses 1-24 as the players, I will modify mine after we have the final list of players to get the schedule.
Note: You must have java installed for this to run.
You can get it here...
http://home.comcast.net/~zsta2k5/Scheduler.jar
zsta2k6
Monday, July 24th, 2006, 10:48 PM
List updated, if you see a problem, contact me immediately
Golden
Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 1:34 AM
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Monday, July 24th, 2006, 4:00 PM)

I vote FCP
QFT
zsta2k6
Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 1:48 AM
Well, I have come to a few decisions about the low buyin that will help keep it at FCP, and help maintain an approximation of the payout structure.
1. The low buy in is set indefinately at $50, $20 more than previously announced.
2. Both high and low buy in events will be capped at 32 players.
Also, this is an issue for both events.... since there will be 32 players instead of 24, there will have to be a slight alteration to the structure of the tournament. There will either be an extra round added (instead of 5 prelims playing 6 handed, 3 or 4 prelims playing 8 handed, then that many more playing 6 handed), or the 6 handed prelim tables will play as 8 handed and 20 players will advance to the playoffs.
once the issue above is resolved, I will post a modified rulesheet for both high and low buy in events.
Mercury69
Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 4:58 AM
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 5:48 AM)

Well, I have come to a few decisions about the low buyin that will help keep it at FCP, and help maintain an approximation of the payout structure.
1. The low buy in is set indefinately at $50, $20 more than previously announced.
2. Both high and low buy in events will be capped at 32 players.
Also, this is an issue for both events.... since there will be 32 players instead of 24, there will have to be a slight alteration to the structure of the tournament. There will either be an extra round added (instead of 5 prelims playing 6 handed, 3 or 4 prelims playing 8 handed, then that many more playing 6 handed), or the 6 handed prelim tables will play as 8 handed and 20 players will advance to the playoffs.
once the issue above is resolved, I will post a modified rulesheet for both high and low buy in events.
Works for me.
jowest
Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 8:33 AM
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 2:48 AM)

Well, I have come to a few decisions about the low buyin that will help keep it at FCP, and help maintain an approximation of the payout structure.
1. The low buy in is set indefinately at $50, $20 more than previously announced.
2. Both high and low buy in events will be capped at 32 players.
Also, this is an issue for both events.... since there will be 32 players instead of 24, there will have to be a slight alteration to the structure of the tournament. There will either be an extra round added (instead of 5 prelims playing 6 handed, 3 or 4 prelims playing 8 handed, then that many more playing 6 handed), or the 6 handed prelim tables will play as 8 handed and 20 players will advance to the playoffs.
once the issue above is resolved, I will post a modified rulesheet for both high and low buy in events.
Please make sure I am still in at the $50 level as things progress. If you are having trouble filling the higher limit one I may also join that one. Keep me posted.
eYank
Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 9:14 AM
ok looks good
looks like i have about a month to make a depsoit on FCP now
nickforgot
Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 10:45 AM
do you need to go through all the liscense and security loops if you use firepay, on FCP?
eYank
Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 2:05 PM
QUOTE (nickforgot @ Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 10:45 AM)

do you need to go through all the liscense and security loops if you use firepay, on FCP?
i dont believe so
what do they ask for when u make a netteller account, ive never actually deposited in an online rooom
ty
zsta2k6
Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 4:39 PM
Final signup pms have been sent for the low buyin. I am now finalizing lists for the high and low buyin events.
zsta2k6
Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 10:13 PM
Lists, rules, etc. have been updated in the OP. This will most likely be the last set of changes to the rules. Low buy in payout structure has also been included. There are still 2 spots open on the High buyin list, and I have started a Low buy in alternates list for those who are not listed yet.
People listed as unconfirmed/unknown will have until the end of Saturday to contact me with their confirmation or they will be dropped from the list, and alternates will take their place.
Shizzmoney
Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 5:29 AM
QUOTE
I like 9-10pm est for a starting time. Keep the info coming.
QUOTE
As for buy-in, I'd prefer $100-$200
I second both of those.
blazerp0410
Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 6:24 AM
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 4:39 PM)

Final signup pms have been sent for the low buyin. I am now finalizing lists for the high and low buyin events.
Finalize and confirm me for the low please....Are pay-outs posted for low yet?
blazerp0410
Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 6:36 AM
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 1:48 AM)

Well, I have come to a few decisions about the low buyin that will help keep it at FCP, and help maintain an approximation of the payout structure.
1. The low buy in is set indefinately at $50, $20 more than previously announced.
2. Both high and low buy in events will be capped at 32 players.
Also, this is an issue for both events.... since there will be 32 players instead of 24, there will have to be a slight alteration to the structure of the tournament. There will either be an extra round added (instead of 5 prelims playing 6 handed, 3 or 4 prelims playing 8 handed, then that many more playing 6 handed), or the 6 handed prelim tables will play as 8 handed and 20 players will advance to the playoffs.
once the issue above is resolved, I will post a modified rulesheet for both high and low buy in events.
So it's 5 $5.00+.50 matches PLUS the $50 entry fee correct? And the winner of the 8 person table takes the $40? Who are we sending the entry fee too, how, and when will it be due? Has match nights and times been determined yet as well? Sorry to be a pain.
Paul
zsta2k6
Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 10:52 AM
QUOTE (blazerp0410 @ Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 10:36 AM)

So it's 5 $5.00+.50 matches PLUS the $50 entry fee correct? And the winner of the 8 person table takes the $40? Who are we sending the entry fee too, how, and when will it be due? Has match nights and times been determined yet as well? Sorry to be a pain.
Paul
about the $5+.5 matches, they will be refunded to you either every week or at the end of the prelim round. Yes the winner of the table takes the $40. Who to send entry fees has not been determined for sure yet but will more than likely be the FCP poker room, how will be up to them, and it will be due late August. Match nights are monday, tuesday, thursday, and friday, at 10pm EST. You will play on only once a week.
eYank
Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 1:19 PM
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 10:52 AM)

about the $5+.5 matches, they will be refunded to you either every week or at the end of the prelim round. Yes the winner of the table takes the $40. Who to send entry fees has not been determined for sure yet but will more than likely be the FCP poker room, how will be up to them, and it will be due late August. Match nights are monday, tuesday, thursday, and friday, at 10pm EST. You will play on only once a week.
so will we need more then $50 then if we need to pay each week
nickforgot
Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 2:13 PM
QUOTE (eYank @ Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 4:19 PM)

so will we need more then $50 then if we need to pay each week
27.50 no?
zsta2k6
Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 6:20 PM
QUOTE (nickforgot @ Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 6:13 PM)

27.50 no?
that or 5.50, depends on whether FCP pays the buyins back every week or at the end of the round. I'll have more on that once I get more information.
EStormOk
Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 6:43 PM
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 6:20 PM)

that or 5.50, depends on whether FCP pays the buyins back every week or at the end of the round. I'll have more on that once I get more information.
Wouldn't it be easier tojust pay the $50 - the 5 prelim buy-ins? The winner would still get the $40 and nothing would have to be refunded. Does this make more sense to anyone else or I am just losing it?
zsta2k6
Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 7:30 PM
QUOTE (EStormOk @ Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 10:43 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier tojust pay the $50 - the 5 prelim buy-ins? The winner would still get the $40 and nothing would have to be refunded. Does this make more sense to anyone else or I am just losing it?
The way it is being done is to prevent no shows, if you dont show up for your match your buy in won't be refunded to you. Otherwise it would affect the payout for those matches. It could be done the way you suggest, but there would be no insurance against no-shows.
Also, for the prelim-quarterfinal, the tournament fees (the 50 cents) will not be refunded to maintain the current payout structure. If there is a problem with that, I can modify the payout structure in the low, and cut into the consolation prize pool for the high to accomidate those fees for the prelim matches.
Also again, the minisite for this event is up and under construction. To be preemptive, I have 0 skill web designing, I realize this, no need to blast me for it. You can get to it using the following link.
http://home.comcast.net/~zsta2k5/FCPPC/index.htmAlso, as you can see, <insert logo here> doesnt make for a good logo. If someone with decent mspaint/photoshop skills wants to have a go at a logo, it would be much appreciated and credit will be given on the homepage.
zsta2k6
Sunday, July 30th, 2006, 9:50 PM
Tentative low buyin schedules have been posted on the website. If someone drops out/moves to the high buyin, the alternate will take their schedule.
Also, still need 3 more for the high buyin.
(bump)
Loismustdie
Sunday, July 30th, 2006, 9:55 PM
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Sunday, July 30th, 2006, 10:50 PM)

Tentative low buyin schedules have been posted on the website. If someone drops out/moves to the high buyin, the alternate will take their schedule.
Also, still need 3 more for the high buyin.
(bump)
Haven't checked this for a week, and now we are at 13 pages, lol. You do have me down for the high buy in, no? I think you do, if you don't pm me please, because I am most definitely in.
zsta2k6
Sunday, July 30th, 2006, 9:56 PM
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Monday, July 31st, 2006, 1:55 AM)

Haven't checked this for a week, and now we are at 13 pages, lol. You do have me down for the high buy in, no? I think you do, if you don't pm me please, because I am most definitely in.
I do have you down for the high buyin.
Loismustdie
Sunday, July 30th, 2006, 9:57 PM
Never mind, I see by the op that we are good. This is going to be fun I think.
EStormOk
Sunday, July 30th, 2006, 10:02 PM
QUOTE (zsta2k6 @ Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 7:30 PM)

The way it is being done is to prevent no shows, if you dont show up for your match your buy in won't be refunded to you. Otherwise it would affect the payout for those matches. It could be done the way you suggest, but there would be no insurance against no-shows.
Your point is well taken. Good to see someone already thought this through better than I have.
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