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Jordan
Hand one:

These are all from memory, but should be quite close to exact actions.

KK 6 handed in BB, have button ($280ish-300ish) covered who is villian.

one limper, btn raises to 18, I re-raise to 60, limper folds, btn calls.

flop J9x I bet $100, he folds

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Hand two:

Same opponent

I still have him covered he has around 280 again this hand, same action preflop, except no limper and I re-raise his 16 to 46 with AA this time in BB.

flop T53

I check, he checks

turn 8

i bet $80 he calls

river 9

i check...

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After hand two, I saw him showdown this hand which I wasn't involved in. He completed sb w Q9o, called 11 more from bb. HU, flop QQ7 he cr 19 to 48, t he checked OOP, river he bet pot and beat TT.

Hand three:

Same opponent once more

I have KK, this time in position at CO. he limped UTG. I raise to $17, he calls, HU POT. I again, have him covered.

flop

T54 (2 hearts)

he check/calls when I bet $30 into $40

turn 8o

he checks, i bet $80 into $100, he check/raises to $160 (and has about 250 behind), I ...

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Hand three is the one I'm obviously more curious about...i added the other hands to give you all basically the read I had...so tell me what you do..

if you want to reply to all of em, what i do in multiple hand threads is quote it all, then reply after each hand in the quote in bolded txt...easiest way.

- Jordan
krup24
QUOTE (Jordan @ Monday, July 3rd, 2006, 9:29 PM) *
Hand one

These are all from memory, but should be quite close to exact actions.

KK 6 handed in BB, have button ($280ish-300ish) covered who is villian.

one limper, btn raises to 18, I re-raise to 60, limper folds, btn calls.

flop J9x I bet $100, he folds

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Standard

Hand two:
Same opponent

I still have him covered he has around 280 again this hand, same action preflop, except no limper and I re-raise his 16 to 46 with AA this time in BB.

flop T53

I check, he checks

turn 8

i bet $80 he calls

river 9

i check...

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After hand two, I saw him showdown this hand which I wasn't involved in. He completed sb w Q9o, called 11 more from bb. HU, flop QQ7 he cr 19 to 48, t he checked OOP, river he bet pot and beat TT.

why are you checking the flop here???? Are you trying to C/R. This should be a 3/4 to pot sized bet every time. As played, fold is fine.

Hand three:
Same opponent once more

I have KK, this time in position at CO. he limped UTG. I raise to $17, he calls, HU POT. I again, have him covered.

flop

T54 (2 hearts)

he check/calls when I bet $30 into $40

turn 8o

he checks, i bet $80 into $100, he check/raises to $160 (and has about 250 behind), I ...

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Seems like ur beat here, i fold. Surely 67 is in his range as is a set. But I like the way you played the KK vs the AA
screech
Hand 1: what else would you do?

HAnd 2: I like calling here pf a lot more than hand 1, since you are already HU. A raise is good too. I probably balance them around 50/50.

I don't like the flop check unless you think it means he will bet for you. Since he never bet the flop when you gave him the chance, I don't think he will bet the river for you.

Hand 3: He hasn't really played back at you before, so you're probably in a ton of trouble here. 55 and 44 are definetly hands I would be worried about. I would guess on average, you have about 8 outs (for the times you actually have 40 when you're ahead). The only problem is that if you call, you won't be ahead often enough to call a river push. I think I like a fold, or a call and river fold if you don't think he has the balls to follow up with a river bluff.
Jordan
QUOTE (screech @ Tuesday, July 4th, 2006, 4:12 AM) *
Hand 1: what else would you do?

HAnd 2: I like calling here pf a lot more than hand 1, since you are already HU. A raise is good too. I probably balance them around 50/50.

I don't like the flop check unless you think it means he will bet for you. Since he never bet the flop when you gave him the chance, I don't think he will bet the river for you.

Hand 3: He hasn't really played back at you before, so you're probably in a ton of trouble here. 55 and 44 are definetly hands I would be worried about. I would guess on average, you have about 8 outs (for the times you actually have 40 when you're ahead). The only problem is that if you call, you won't be ahead often enough to call a river push. I think I like a fold, or a call and river fold if you don't think he has the balls to follow up with a river bluff.


Hand 1, yea...totally standard..just was showing our history with villian.

hand 2, I checked the flop with intention of CRAI cause I was hoping he'd bet when I checked this time thinking I had missed teh flop since I lead into him last time...on the river I was debating if I should bet 80 - $140, but opted to check cause this guy was really odd up to this point.

hand 3, really bugged me..mainly cause of how my night had been going before...the thing about the min check/raise is that I hate having to try and interpret it. Against one guy it means the nuts, the next it is TPBK or something...bleh...lets just say, he didn't seem to the type to bluff...so I think my fold was right, i guess..

- Jordan
PoppinFresh
Hand 2 as others have said you need to be leading the flop, don't worry about picking up the pot there if he's going to keep giving it to you start 3-betting him light and let him hand you his money.

I also disagree with screech's 50/50 calling/3-betting analysis. It's tought to stack someone with AA unless you end up in a set over set type situation, UNLESS the pot is reraised. As long as you're 3-betting light enough you will get plenty of action with your AA and 3-betting will almost certainly be better than calling except for in some rare spots/against rare opponents.

Hand 3 is tough, a fold looks alright to me since villain hasn't been getting out of line
Jordan
In hand two, villian checked behind JJ and I about went on massive tilt from that hand.

i was just in disbelief at that hand. on my part some, but more of his.

- Jordan
Scott3705
Hand 2: I would agree w/ Screech about liking a flat call here more than hand 1 since it's HU. However, we re-raised him before out of the BB and I'm sure it's gonna get him curious this time. We missed a C/R... sucks but I could see going for it just because I hate playing turn and rivers OOP. I think the river's a bet tho.

Hand 3: a turn C/R is usually a fold unless you're in a super aggressive game w/ a bunch of lagtards. Just because he's been so passive here, it's probably a fold.
iggymcfly
Hand 1: Standard.

Hand 2: That reraise PF, check flop line is pretty suspicious if you ask me. It just screams monster. That's likely to slow villian way down, and I think you'd be a lot better off just betting your hand here. Since he's losing to more overpairs than he's beating and nothing else is paying him off, I'm not surprised that he checked behind on the river at all.

Hand 3: This is a tough one. I'd pay it off under the "if I have no idea what you have when the clock ticks down, and I have a good hand, I call" rule, but a fold is probably the right decision. I don't quite have the discipline to lay down kings here though.
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