Rocketwadster
Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 10:15 AM
Sorry - no converteron this site. I will try to recreate:
NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $5+$1 (Real Money), #636,407,989
Avalon Single Table Tournament, 23 Jun 2006 2:04 PM ET
Seat 3: Button ($1,945 in chips)
Seat 7: SB ($1,275 in chips)
Seat 9: BB ($8,980 in chips)
Seat 10: Hero - UTG ($2,800 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
SB posts blind ($75), BB posts blind ($150).
PRE-FLOP
Hero folds, Button folds, SB calls $75, BB checks.
FLOP [board cards 9C,AS,3H ]
SB checks, BB checks.
TURN [board cards 9C,AS,3H,5H ]
SB checks, BB checks.
RIVER [board cards 9C,AS,3H,5H,AC ]
SB checks, BB bets $300, SB calls $300.
SHOWDOWN
BB shows [ JD,8S ]
SB shows [ 7S,KD ]
SB commented afterwards the following - "Little bluff". Now, was he talking about his hand, or his opponents. I can't believe he called there. Thoughts?
JacKingOff_suit
Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 11:02 AM
I think he made a good call.
Rocketwadster
Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 11:06 AM
QUOTE (JacKingOff_suit @ Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 11:02 AM)

I think he made a good call.
Perhaps if the aces weren't aces, then I would disagree (change them to say queens).
With those chip stacks, Sb cannot afford to be wrong with this call, which was why I originally thought it was foolish. A A K 9 7 is not powerhouse by any means. Perhaps with a higher kicker with his king, I might have called there, but definately not with that hand and that chip stack.
JacKingOff_suit
Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 11:13 AM
If you were in position with big stack, made a hand or had a good hand preflop, would you have checked all the way from preflop to turn?
No brainer call to me.
Rocketwadster
Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 11:19 AM
QUOTE (JacKingOff_suit @ Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 11:13 AM)

If you were in position with big stack, made a hand or had a good hand preflop, would you have checked all the way from preflop to turn?
No brainer call to me.
I didnt give alot of info on the players here, but I guess I should have as it appears to be very relevant. This was from earlier today, where we played on the bubble for over 15 minutes, with the only pre-flop raises coming from me, and the big stack playing hardly any hands at all. He was so passive it was silly. You had no way of knowing that though (my bad).
Actuary
Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 11:38 AM
not a good call, imo
too many slow players that BB could have Ace, maybe even flopped set or Aces Up. Or now, he has a 9 and wants some value
1200 stack, calling 300, not way to win 5+1 SnG
btw, I fold preflop a lot as the SB, unless I can raise and pick up BB easily.
I"m passive in SB on BonB battles.
mrdannyg
Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 11:41 AM
twice i was called in a 3/6 game last night when i bet every street and a guy with a straight or flush draw called down, including on the river with Q-high or less. two different guys, two different river calls with T and Q-high. hell, the last time i was bluffing with KJ and still took it down.
shpaget
Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 11:53 AM
I can make that call - your king could very well be winning - any pair likely bets to see where they're at, at some point on an earlier street..I might even lead out to try to get a pair to fold.
JacKingOff_suit
Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 12:41 PM
btw, I fold preflop a lot as the SB, unless I can raise and pick up BB easily.
I must be a moron, actually I was thinking if I were SB I would have raised to $400 preflop then shove in on the flop no matter what comes.
But that's the play I will make when it's 4-handed. I don't do these early rounds.
Actuary
Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 12:43 PM
on the bubble against the big stack?
ballsy.
JacKingOff_suit
Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 12:49 PM
on the bubble against the big stack?
Short stack, short-handed, OOP, and against one opponent. I have to assume my KX is better than average hands.
Actuary
Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 12:57 PM
QUOTE (JacKingOff_suit @ Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 12:49 PM)

on the bubble against the big stack?
Short stack, short-handed, OOP, and against one opponent. I have to assume my KX is better than average hands.
still don't like it.
You're not that short compared to othe players, except BB
He will call your push with overs, any pair.
If he's getting about 2:1.
reedmcneal
Friday, June 23rd, 2006, 2:57 PM
I think the call is pretty reasonable. He's getting 2:1. Looks like BB is just trying to pick it up. I think SB has best hand more than a third of the time.
If I were SB I may have pushed preflop. I probably have best hand, and may well knock out some better hands with that play. I'd definately rather do that than bet 400, and push any flop.
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