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bdc30
Ok...after a cashout and a bit of a cashout curse, I'm down to $50
left on FCP, and just about ready to redeposit.

Figured I'd take the last bit of cash and see if I could either double
it up quick, or just have a bit of fun....


$100 Pot Limit Omaha...
Everyone has me well covered...

Hero ($45) is dealt K icon_suit_heart.gif K icon_suit_club.gif J icon_suit_heart.gif J icon_suit_club.gif
and is SB.

Preflop...
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises to $3, UTG+2 calls, MP calls, MP+1 calls, 3 folds,
Button raises to 12, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 re-raises the pot,
MP calls, MP+1 folds, Button calls, Hero??????

Is this as good a time as any to flip a coin for my stack, with the chance to
TRIPLE through if I can hit??

Should I have pushed when the action came to me the first time to try and
isolate, or did I get exactly what I was looking for with the over-calls???
dingas
You're probably not in great shape here, since you're likely up against aces, plus there's a good chance that one or both of your flush draws are not live. Still, you're getting a pretty good price, so I think you have to make the call.

My first instinct would be to push immediately after button's raise, but I can also see the logic in just calling like you did.
JacKingOff_suit
If you can get MP, button, and UTG+1 all shoved in preflop then your hand is the favorite, my guess is your hand has ~30% pot equity in a four-way pot. Since your villains have you covered then I will do it if everyone shoves in preflop.

Even if you shove in, only UTG+1 called, and your hand was say 40:60 underdog to his hand, but with the dead money in the pot at least your move is EV neutral.

It just depends if you can take the variance. But anyway shove in preflop with equal money but with an positive edge is always the +EV move to me.

How short were you anyway and how about the rest?

Also, if you like to get everyone involved, do a min-raise, type "let's do it together, mofos...." UTG+1 will probably push and everyone calls.... then cross your fingers.
bdc30
QUOTE (JacKingOff_suit @ Monday, June 19th, 2006, 6:39 AM) *
How short were you anyway and how about the rest?


I had $45 left, everyone else had around the max $100 buyin amount
except for Button who had >$300 in front of him.

That was another thing I should have mentioned.
I felt he was trying to use his big stack to steal some
of the "loose change" sitting in the pot preflop.
bdc30
QUOTE (dingas @ Monday, June 19th, 2006, 6:31 AM) *
My first instinct would be to push immediately after button's raise, but I can also see the logic in just calling like you did.


My thought with not raising at the first action was that I was hoping
that it didn't get raised by anyone behind me, but that I might get
a few guys to over-call the $12 raise.

I was then basically just insta-pushing the flop, since I acted first anyways.
To see it come back to me re-potted with 3 callers, I felt like I had no
choice BUT to call, even knowing (assuming) I was up against at least
ONE guy with aces.
iggymcfly
I think with KKJJ double suited, you've probably got the right odds to gamble, especially with all the dead money in the pot. If you had no suits, you'd probably have to toss it, and if you had JT98, you'd be golden, but as is, I think it's a close decision where the right answer is to put your chips in the pot.

Oh, and as to whether you should have pushed earlier, the answer's no. The only reason to repot in PLO is to try to get all your money in with aces, or to disguise your hand against an extremely deep-stacked villian. If anything, a repot's just likely to get you heads-up for your whole stack against someone with aces which is exactly what you should be trying to avoid.
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