I have AA first hand of 8,500 guaranteed in the sb. You get 3,000 starting chips. Blinds 15/30


One limper, LP raises to 135, I pump it to 320, everybody folds to him and he calls.


Flop: Qd Jd 8c


I bet out 550 into a 700 chip pot and he calls.

Turn: 8s

I bet out 1150 and he takes 20 seconds and goes all in.

I said something dumb...
mis read chip counts...

I say call.

I would raise it higher preflop. At this point I probably call, you have committed over half your stack and villain could easily have KK, AQ, or counterfeited QJ, or even just a draw.

I call because I'd rather be out now and go play another tourney than play for a couple hours with a short stack the whole time and go out on the bubble.

Yeah but what hand is he going to call 550 on the flop with an 8 in his hand?

The only sets he could have really is JJ or QQ and would he just flat call my reraise with them? I can see possibly JJ but truely thats the only hand I think I don't have beat here.

Here, I would have to call down.

Once you bet on the turn, 2/3 of your stack is in the pot, you are pot committed. That 8 is actually a good card as it's not likely he had 8x and it counterfeits QJ if somehow he was playing that.

Seems like if he had a boat, he should smooth call. I read him for some type of flush/straight draw

I'd call it. You're early on in a low buy-in tourney, and this is a pretty good spot to gamble. Also, the eight's actually a good card for you as you're now beating QJ, and villian might get frisky trying to bluff the trips.

how come no one thinks he calls the PF re-raise with an 8 but everyone seems to think he does it with QJ

looks like AQ to me, Id call, only hand im scared of is JJ

Yeah only hand I'm worried about is JJ too.


No its not just the preflop raise that he calls with an 8 with because he could've easily called with A8 which would be silly but plausible or maybe a suited connector containing an 8.

But when I bet 550 into a 700 chip pot, you HAVE to toss an 8 there.


Could've had QJ but the 8 like some people mentioned was a good hand because I now have counterfeited his QJ with a higher 2 pair.


Remember he FLAT called a reraise. Tough to think you would do that with QQ or JJ.

Then to again FLAT call on a very scary flop with a bunch of straight and flush possibilites with a set.

which is excatly why QJ makes no sense at all. why only call the flop with it

Im re-raising PF with QQ and Im raising the flop with JJ

i think you have to call this, seems like AK, maybe AQ

my bad.,
I kept looking at the 8500 and thought that was the chip total, not 3000.

Yes, call.

(I'm going to go edit that so I won't look silly in 5 yrs!)

Easy call. I think in general people give other players (ummm...fishies) way too much credit. I have seen way too many marginal hands move all in here.

Yeah. The mistake that I see on this hand is that OP didn't re-raise enough to protect his hand PF. You want to re-raise to like 700, so that if the villian wants to play his hand, he'll move in. That way, you force him to outflop you. I hate having AA and letting guys outflop me cheaply. Also why I don't like seeing flops with AA unless im all in.

I'm not saying he had QJ, but I think it was possible. He only calls the flop hoping to trap his opponenet and push a safe turn, but then the 8 falls on the turn. He's afraid that he's counterfeited, but he pushes anyways hoping hero calls with AQ.

IMO though it is more likely that villain has AQ, KK, JJ or QQ.

No, QJ is not very possible.

Why would he call a re-raise, albeit(sp) a small one with QJ

and if you have QJ on that board you DO NOT SLOWPLAY IT!!! There are straight draws an flush draws everywhere. You said villian might think his QJ is conterfeited, which means he think Hero has an overpair....if you think hero has an overpair why not RAISE HIM. He cant fold AA/KK in that spot unless he gets a good read one the first hand of a tourney

True but he also didnt reraise with a set in that spot.


He could've called with QJs to try and catch a big flop.

seems to me villain has AQ or even KQ here...

I just think it's hilarious how in the lower buy-in tourneys, in the first half hour, people want to develop large stacks and will push marginal hands WAAAAAAAAY to hard if they just get any piece of the flop. I think AA is good here, or your opponent found an unorthodox way of playing QQ, JJ, or hell, even 88.

It's a fine play because the reraise is so small. If villain puts hero on a big hand, he is getting good enough odds (including implied) to try to hit a big hand and double up.