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tater nuts
i was given 3 to 1 for USA vs Italy. I know Italy was favored but i couldnt pass up 3 to 1. i wanted to know if this was a good bet even though US is probably going to loose the match
BigDMcGee
I think this is a great bet, actually. I don't think the US are as bad as they looked against czech, and I definatly think italy is over rated. I think the true odds should be about 2 to 1 or maybe 2.5 to 1... I think you got good value.
ahosang
WOW!!
Hope you people don't play poker the way you sports bet! USA(whether they win or not) are NOT value at 3-1 against Italy!!

Totally disregarding form, ability etc, they are available at 6-1, so strictly from a point of price, it's a bad bet at 3-1.
DonkSlayer
QUOTE (ahosang @ Thursday, June 15th, 2006, 3:34 PM) *
WOW!!
Hope you people don't play poker the way you sports bet! USA(whether they win or not) are NOT value at 3-1 against Italy!!

Totally disregarding form, ability etc, they are available at 6-1, so strictly from a point of price, it's a bad bet at 3-1.



So you're just saying it's not the BEST deal?
yergan
3-1 for a win essentially assumes that a win for USA, a draw and a win for italy are all equally likely. Definitely not the case.

If you got 3-1 for italy to not win (i.e. a draw or USA win), then you are looking a bit better and maybe close to getting good value.
ol'number7
I hope you get your money back on a tie, otherwise you got jobbed
tater nuts
QUOTE (yergan @ Thursday, June 15th, 2006, 4:44 PM) *
3-1 for a win essentially assumes that a win for USA, a draw and a win for italy are all equally likely. Definitely not the case.

If you got 3-1 for italy to not win (i.e. a draw or USA win), then you are looking a bit better and maybe close to getting good value.

Im new to sports betting so Im probalby wrong but:
on a $20 bet
if italy wins: my friend gets $20
If US wins: i get $60
no pay on a tie so we are only betting on a win or lose situation. the tie is meaningless. For the bet to be the correct odds (which it is probably not)the US would only need to win once for every 3 times Italy would win. Italy wins 3 times Im out $60. If US wins once I get my $60 back.
randy
well things work a little different in Australia where i am for betting.

At my local book maker tho US is paying about 9.50.

so for every $1 you put on you get 9.50 back.

Italy is about 1.30

the tie is around 4.5

Your bet works so that you only pay if italy loses.

If you worked through a bookie you could place $5 on the tie and $15 on the win for the same $20.

So if it was a tie you gould get back 22.5 for a $2.50 profit.

If the US one you would get back $142.50

So if italy win you still lose the same 20.

If they draw you essentially break even.

and if the us win you get paid $142.5 for you $20. So around 7/1 or double what you are getting now.

But then there is no way in hell that the US will win, even with 7/1 i think the bet is bad
BigDMcGee
anyone in this thread wanna lick some us balls? Is there any doubt that USA looked to be the better squad today?
randy
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Sunday, June 18th, 2006, 2:17 PM) *
anyone in this thread wanna lick some us balls? Is there any doubt that USA looked to be the better squad today?


win a game before you talk it up

and i was talking about odds being bad, not just the US team.
mrdannyg
just put a couple bets down:

5:1 on Brazil being up 1-0 after first half
5:1 on game ending in a draw
13:1 on Australia leading after first half.

i know some of those cancel, but those seem to be great prices on those bets.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (randy @ Sunday, June 18th, 2006, 12:57 PM) *
win a game before you talk it up

and i was talking about odds being bad, not just the US team.



You really think italy looked like the better squad? 7-1 was a absolutely retarded line, and I would have jumped on it.
kers2
QUOTE (mrdannyg @ Sunday, June 18th, 2006, 12:27 PM) *
just put a couple bets down:

5:1 on Brazil being up 1-0 after first half
5:1 on game ending in a draw
13:1 on Australia leading after first half.

i know some of those cancel, but those seem to be great prices on those bets.


oops
ROGUE06
QUOTE (mrdannyg @ Sunday, June 18th, 2006, 11:27 AM) *
just put a couple bets down:

5:1 on Brazil being up 1-0 after first half
5:1 on game ending in a draw
13:1 on Australia leading after first half.

i know some of those cancel, but those seem to be great prices on those bets.

not bad odds, too bad you couldn't get lucky.
randy
QUOTE (mrdannyg @ Monday, June 19th, 2006, 2:27 AM) *
just put a couple bets down:

5:1 on Brazil being up 1-0 after first half
5:1 on game ending in a draw
13:1 on Australia leading after first half.

i know some of those cancel, but those seem to be great prices on those bets.


all of those were on the cards and could have happened with a little luck here or there. The game was tighter than 2-0
Yoda
I bet $20 on the tie at +340 :-D Now that was a good bet.
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