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pokerfan1080
(Preflop I threw out a 5BB bet, one caller)

QQ pocket to a 10 high flop.

I check, opponent bets 1/2 pot, I re-raise, opponent calls.

Turn is 5, opponent bets pot.

Push, call or fold?
fckthis
Push. The amount of times your opponent beats you here is not as many times that you beat him
Scott3705
You need to put a little more info a ten high flop could be 10,10 9,
1098
10 2 5
3 to a flush, rainbow. Stack sizes and blinds matter too.
fckthis
QUOTE (Scott3705 @ Tuesday, June 13th, 2006, 6:22 AM) *
You need to put a little more info a ten high flop could be 10,10 9,
1098
10 2 5
3 to a flush, rainbow. Stack sizes and blinds matter too.


Ye. Word.
shpaget
Without knowing if there are any viable flush/straight draws on board (or made straights/flushes)...or if the board is paired...

What does he have that calls a 5x BB pf raise AND calls a flop check/raise AND leads the turn, that you beat?

AT, JJ...do you think he could have KT? How about 99?

What does he have that beats you?

AA, KK, TT, or a lower set...is two pair possible here?


And is a 5x BB raise standard at this table, or an overbet? And what's his past play like...trappy...loose...have you seen him play big pairs yet?
pokerfan1080
Sorry folks.....

More info I should have included:

Limits 5/10cents

My second or third hand at table
both stacks at about $10
flop was two to a flush, 10h 8d 3h
Captain_Walt
QUOTE (Scott3705 @ Tuesday, June 13th, 2006, 10:22 AM) *
You need to put a little more info a ten high flop could be 10,10 9,
1098
10 2 5
3 to a flush, rainbow. Stack sizes and blinds matter too.


Also position. You say you check/raise the flop and he calls.

On the turn, you say "he bets pot"... did you check the turn? I would lead out on the turn. Checking the turn doesn't make much sense to me unless you have given up on the hand.
pokerfan1080
QUOTE (shpaget @ Tuesday, June 13th, 2006, 11:59 AM) *
Without knowing if there are any viable flush/straight draws on board (or made straights/flushes)...or if the board is paired...

What does he have that calls a 5x BB pf raise AND calls a flop check/raise AND leads the turn, that you beat?

AT, JJ...do you think he could have KT? How about 99?

What does he have that beats you?

AA, KK, TT, or a lower set...is two pair possible here?
And is a 5x BB raise standard at this table, or an overbet? And what's his past play like...trappy...loose...have you seen him play big pairs yet?


Calling my preflop raise, I put him on any mid to high pair, or any face card hand (single or double).

Hands that beat me are AA, KK, 1010, 88, don't think I would see a call with 33, two pair (questionable due to a decent preflop raise and this flop).

Post flop I was hoping he had Ax(suited hearts).

From what I had seen at this table so far, 5xBB is a strong preflop bet.
shpaget
QUOTE (pokerfan1080 @ Tuesday, June 13th, 2006, 7:30 AM) *
Calling my preflop raise, I put him on any mid to high pair, or any face card hand (single or double).

Hands that beat me are AA, KK, 1010, 88, don't think I would see a call with 33, two pair (questionable due to a decent preflop raise and this flop).

Post flop I was hoping he had Ax(suited hearts).

From what I had seen at this table so far, 5xBB is a strong preflop bet.


With the two hearts on board why are you checking both the flop and the turn?

And don't rule out 33...if both of you have $10, a 50 cent call is more than correct with any pocket pair.

But with you showing so much weakness he could be playing a pair with a flush draw...In late position, a lot of people will call a pf raise with suited connectors (eg. 7h8h) for only 5% of their stack.
pokerfan1080
QUOTE (Captain_Walt @ Tuesday, June 13th, 2006, 12:20 PM) *
Also position. You say you check/raise the flop and he calls.

On the turn, you say "he bets pot"... did you check the turn? I would lead out on the turn. Checking the turn doesn't make much sense to me unless you have given up on the hand.

Yes, I was going for another check-raise, and he played into my strat.

Although, I wasn't expecting that much of a bet from him.
pokerfan1080
QUOTE (shpaget @ Tuesday, June 13th, 2006, 12:37 PM) *
With the two hearts on board why are you checking both the flop and the turn?

And don't rule out 33...if both of you have $10, a 50 cent call is more than correct with any pocket pair.

But with you showing so much weakness he could be playing a pair with a flush draw...In late position, a lot of people will call a pf raise with suited connectors (eg. 7h8h) for only 5% of their stack.


By checking, I was hoping to get him betting into a hand I thought I was ahead in, then moving in with a raise to his bet.

Nice post, some really good points I've never considered.

I'm still learning this game, thanks for the input.
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