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NOFX_PUNK
I know it's teeny money and all but there's something that's bothering me about how the hand played out, could it just be limping with crap in LP?

Anyway, thoughts please

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($10.30)
UTG ($44.05)
MP ($10)
CO ($25.15)
donkwholimpsJ9sinLP ($25.75)
SB ($36.20)

Preflop: donkwholimpsJ9sinLP is Button with J, 9. MP posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, MP (poster) checks, 1 fold, donkwholimpsJ9sinLP calls $0.25, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) 8, 5, J (4 players)
SB bets $0.75, BB folds, MP folds, donkwholimpsJ9sinLP raises to $2, SB calls $1.25.

Turn: ($5) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, donkwholimpsJ9sinLP bets $3, SB calls $3.

River: ($11) K (2 players)
SB checks, donkwholimpsJ9sinLP bets $5, SB folds.

Final Pot: $16
fckthis
Huh? Nothing about this hand is bad.
antistuff
I don't bet that river. Whats he gonna call with that you beat?
gooch
whats the question?
NOFX_PUNK
QUOTE (antistuff @ Friday, June 9th, 2006, 7:49 PM) *
I don't bet that river. Whats he gonna call with that you beat?



thanks for the useful input! tongue.gif

I put him on a busted flush draw so I thought he would fold, the problem I had was with the amount to bet. Obviously I could have shown it down for free but I felt like a bet, how do u deduce the amount to bet into that pot given my hand and my read on him?

thanks
bdc30
A better jack might fold here.
Something like J10, or JQ.

I don't mind the river bet.
NOFX_PUNK
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Friday, June 9th, 2006, 8:55 PM) *
A better jack might fold here.
Something like J10, or JQ.

I don't mind the river bet.



thanks for the input, do u think the river bet is the right amount?
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Friday, June 9th, 2006, 3:55 PM) *
A better jack might fold here.
Something like J10, or JQ.

I don't mind the river bet.

The offsuit king's a good looking card for both those hands. We have something to show down. I check the river.

If I were bluffing on the river, I would make a larger bet.
Scott3705
QUOTE (NOFX_PUNK @ Friday, June 9th, 2006, 11:32 AM) *
thanks for the useful input! tongue.gif

I put him on a busted flush draw so I thought he would fold, the problem I had was with the amount to bet. Obviously I could have shown it down for free but I felt like a bet, how do u deduce the amount to bet into that pot given my hand and my read on him?

thanks


I don't understand this? are you trying to value bet a busted draw? really? River bet is pointless IMO.
Mattnxtc
QUOTE (antistuff @ Friday, June 9th, 2006, 11:49 AM) *
I don't bet that river. Whats he gonna call with that you beat?



nothing which is why you bet around the pot size on the turn so that ur river bet is big enough to scare people at these limits.
antistuff
QUOTE (Mattnxtc @ Saturday, June 10th, 2006, 12:40 PM) *
nothing which is why you bet around the pot size on the turn so that ur river bet is big enough to scare people at these limits.


This is the second time youve commented on a hand with something to this effect. It seems like youre saying you bet enough on the turn so that if youre called you know youre beat (either that or they are drawing and value betting the river is pointless), correct?
Mattnxtc
QUOTE (antistuff @ Saturday, June 10th, 2006, 5:56 PM) *
This is the second time youve commented on a hand with something to this effect. It seems like youre saying you bet enough on the turn so that if youre called you know youre beat (either that or they are drawing and value betting the river is pointless), correct?



Ive found that at 25nl and even 50nl you can get people to fold hands about 80% of the time just by being aggressive.

I like to fire again on the turn for around the pot b/c often on a board like this a person can no longer afford to call on draws or with anything less than top pair.

Also theres no way a person can assume ur just drawing to a hand when u fire out another big bet....

youll find people will make comments like "you musta had a set" or something to that effect b/c of the size of ur bet.

Its semi mahatma style as you are making the same bet here as u would with a made hand. It keeps control of the hand and forces them to continuously call larger bets to find out if ur bluffing or not....granted the variance of this style is a bit higher but it has a huge upside
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