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This makes me kinda sad.

She was praying to the wrong god obviously.

LONG LIVE ZEUS!

Obviously Thor is involved

AOL voters are pretty dumb. I've watched Who Wants to be a Millionaire a few times while waking up the past few mornings. One question was about the Balco scandal and whether it involved "crappy answer A," "crappy answer B," "sports doping," or "crappy answer D."

45% chose Crappy Answer B. 33% chose Sports Doping.

I don't understand. What's the point?

Praying gets you struck by lightning?

no what it is.. is proof there is no GOD... or proof that she specifficially shouldnt be praying... or maybe god was concentrating too hard... or maybe it was zues... who knows... bottom line is thats like me telling my girlfriend I love her and her Tazering my Azz... something not right about it

Or, a person God does not hear was randomly struck by lightning.

Ahhhh... its easy to say he has selective listening for some things... and he listens to others.... blah blah blah... once again evidence against his existence


Lightning, form of visible electric discharge between rain clouds or between a rain cloud and the earth (see Electricity). The discharge is seen in the form of a brilliant arc, sometimes several kilometers long, stretching between the discharge points. The discharge also sets up a sound wave that is heard as thunder.



no mention of god here

Maybe she was Catholic and God doesnt like Catholics. At least that's what I hear from most other Christians. I'd sure as hell lose my faith though, if I said a prayer for my family and then got struck by lightning. Talk about an ultimate kick to the balls.

Of course it's eay to say he is selective, because he is. Blah, blah, blah..... that's all you've got? Seriously, this is your big argument?

Get help- ask for Crow or Tim or anybody with half a brain to help you with your arguments because you need something. Like the Phoenix Suns, you lack depth.

I lack depth? I really didnt feel like getting into all the reasons that God does not exist... What I merely was pointing out that is some people can shape completely random experiences to say it was the hand of "GOD".... that "GOD" intervened and saved me... well you want to have an in-depth discussion please lets start....

What proof is there that god exists?

You first- give me " proof " that he doesn't. Then, systematically I will tell you why it isn't really proof.

The burden of proof is on proponents of him existing. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. The idea that there is an all-knowing, all-powerful being that is extremely interested in the minutia of our existence is most certainly an extraordinary claim.

You assume he is interested, when in fact he actually is only interested in those who are interested in him. The rest, in short, can go to hell.*(Paraphrasing, obviously, his words not mine.)

The idea that we came from something instead of nothing, that we had a creator instead ofjust appearing randomly, is not that extraordinary. It's actually the opposite- it's like if I showed you my brand new Hummer in my driveway and when you asked how I got it I tell you, " I don't know. It was in fact a pile of wheelbarrows not two days ago but I blew them up, and I got this. I don't get it- it seems impossible, but here you go. " You would say, in short " You are lying. " Now, if I told you that some guys built it on my driveway, that would not be extraordinary at all.

The burden of proof has never been on creationists, in that our thinking is quite ordinary, simple really. In fact, neither side at this point can prove there position beyond reasonable doubt, and most intelligent people realize that it will never happen.

That is the only one true answer.

Ever hear of people being FULL OF SH*T! Plus God doesn't answer all prayers if you want to bash Christianity or religion read up on it and know about it before you do.......JMO

Nice analogy!

You think?

I find it rather old, tired and unimaginative. Basically lacking in any intellectual content.

I don't claim to be an intellectual, and wouldn't want to be. From what I have seen, intellectuals seem to think themselves right into hell.

My thoughts exactly.....ooops, going to hell, damnit.

Hey, I am open to discussion, but the correlation between quote on quote intelligence and a propensity to lack any sort of belief or faith is astounding, it's undeniable.

Yeah, but the problem is, what makes it more likely that you are, in fact, right and there is a God, as opposed to the intelligencia, who, you claim, have no belief system? Wouldnt it be more logical to go with the people who you have already admitted are more intelligent. Seems like you missed a step in your logic, which is what speedz99 and I are saying.

So what you are saying is that faith is resevered for the quote unquote stupid.

Funny, I've never felt that way, but if you insist

God says that the word of God is so simple that even a fool could not ere therin. What happens, just so I can expound a little, is that questions that have no answer are asked and when they cannot be answered, well, then, the proof that is there is no longer good enough. Therefore, your intelligence by human standards may be great but spiritually it is a handicap.





No, I didn't say that, and you are intelligent enough to realize that.







Petoria- Christianity not all that logical in my mind- faith has always been a requirement.

I would love to shake the hand of the guy who invented faith, bc he was a genius.

I cant think of better way to keep your followers from using logic. There's no reason, and it doesnt make sense logically, but just believe it. I'll call it faith. Genius.

Actually, if you actually get that far it will mean you did something right, considering it was God himself who came up with the concept.

Or the writers of the Bible, but I guess God works too. Do you at least see how anti-logic it is when someone says "believe it bc i said so"?

maybe a sign from the heavens? lol seriously though that sucks

DONK DOWN

I know, but it was too good to pass up

Of course you also get this...



which shows that a lack of intelligence is evenly distributed in both camps

You mean the God that you claimed is illogical and which hyou believe through blind faith?
Round and round we go...


I wouldn't say it's even, but both sides definitely have plenty of hardkorbeatz

You must not have received that memo where I put you on my ignore list.

no theres only ppl like me on the non-moron side.

Surprisingly topical with the "faith" question:





Well, maybe it's just funny.

Okay, that was cute...

well, it was the first of the thousand times it has been posted here.

I'd love to see the copywright on these kinds of claims. How can you even say things like that? Did you guys go out for coffee and he introduced this crazy new idea to you?

Or is it just that you basically believe that God came up with everything ever?

This whole forum makes my head want to explode.

Unless they recycle comics, then this was the first time it has been posted since the comic was posted on June 8th.

No.


For Christians this is just a coinidence. The reason bad things happen is because sin is in the world. Pre-Adam and Eve there was no sin and henceforth this kind of thing didn't happen.




Actually... an extraordinary claim would be that something like the eyeball or thoughts evolved from bacteria.... Saying that God created them makes WAY more sense.

i'm so confused. I dont read this board often enough to know if you're serious.

Also, nobody got struck by lightning when Adam and Eve were around? Kind of a strange claim. You are allowed to not know the answer to a question also.

seems like it would have been pretty hard for a woman to get struck by lightning either way pre-adam/eve



there is a mountain of empirical evidence for (apparently) mechanistic evolution, enough to where it is as close to fact as a theory can be.

there is no evidence whatsoever for creation (and no evidence whatsoever that the christian version of god would necessarily be the creator if one did exist). you only think creation makes way more sense because you are ignorant and egocentric (to put it as politely as possible). it takes a pretty big ego to think something is automatically extraordinary just because you can't comprehend it.

correct... because it didnt rain. A mist watered the Earth.


I was speaking of Adam and Eve's time and misspoke obviously.




I'm assuming, as usual, that this statement doesn't apply to you...

So since you KNOW what happened... please explain to me when in the evolutionary line our thoughts happened. And while your at it, please explain how or when a bateria or some other thing said... hey I should develop an eyeball so I can see. It's laughable you guys believe that crap.

I hope someday soon that someone grows some wings... I would love my kids to be able to fly.

Wait, what? sw? I'm laughing if it's an "sw".

I would expect nothing less...

Genesis 2

1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts.
2 By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.
3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven.
5 Now no shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.
6 But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground.
7 Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.




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That is the reason that people really thought that Noah was crazy.... they had never seen rain, so why would he be worried about a flood?

I thought there was only no rain while Adam and Eve were in the garden, now it goes all the way to Noah? Make a decision, was it the Adam and Eve era or the Noah era?

Do you consider rain a bad thing?

at least i am well educated in christian theism/creationism and philosophical arguments for it. you on the other hand are dismissing evolution outright without knowing the slightest thing about it.



by "you guys" you must be referring to 99% of the world's entire scientific community.

I understand that you not believe in the Bible and will have no choice but to laugh at it's claims... but that being said... According to the Bible Adam & Eve and Noah were separated by about 1,000 years. The oldest person to ever live according to the Bible was 969 years. So to these people, this would've basically been 1 generation later.




I have no idea what the point of this question is. I never said anything about not liking rain. [Sarcastic remark removed out of respect]





Correct. 99% of the scientific community once thought the Earth was flat. So when and how exactly did the eyeball form again? One day a fish said "Hey I think my kids should see" and then it happened? makes perfect sense to me...

The point of the question is asking if God considers rain a bad thing. He didnt include it in the original plan, then it must be so.

Your point about it only being one generation doesnt hold water, no pun intended, because rain is a fairly common event. It doesnt just happen once or twice a generation, it happens a couple times a month, dependin on where you live. Are you saying that God changed the frequency of when it rains over the 1,000 years before Noah? I'm trying to understand. I cant argue the point intelligently, if I dont understand your claim.