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amarillotg
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $16.10
Hero: $43.50
Button: $46
SB: $20
BB: $5.35

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with A icon_suit_club.gif 3 icon_suit_club.gif 8 icon_suit_diamond.gif 3 icon_suit_spade.gif
UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: A icon_suit_diamond.gif A icon_suit_heart.gif Q icon_suit_club.gif ($1.25, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $1.25, Hero calls, 3 folds.

Turn: T icon_suit_heart.gif ($3.75, 2 players)
UTG bets $3.75, Hero calls.

River: 5 icon_suit_club.gif ($11.25, 2 players)
UTG is all-in $10.85, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $32.95

fold the flop or the turn? I can't be ahead here. In my defense though, it was a table full of recreational players. there were 3 to the river a couple of times and people were showing down top pair and overpairs quite often.

but i still think this is horrible.
cdddc75
Calling the flop is probably bad. If you want to do anything besides fold here, reraise over the top and be prepared to fold to further aggression.

Calling the turn and river was donktastic, but you already know that.
dingas
If you think UTG is bluffing more than 50% of the time, or will fold an ace (highly unlikely), you should raise the flop. Otherwise fold.
Scott3705
I think i'd rather raise fold the flop.
ChrisOfSpades
fold preflop
even in a short game those holdings are pretty ugly
cdddc75
QUOTE (ChrisOfSpades @ Tuesday, May 30th, 2006, 1:11 PM) *
fold preflop
even in a short game those holdings are pretty ugly


From the cutoff?

Seriously?
dingas
QUOTE (cdddc75 @ Tuesday, May 30th, 2006, 1:14 PM) *
From the cutoff?

Seriously?


I was going to say fold pre-flop, although in Omaha you can play just about anything in position if you play decently post-flop.

The thing about Omaha is that implied odds are different than holdem. If you flop a set of threes in holdem, you stand to make a lot of money, but in omaha, you will only get action from someone who is beating you or has a good draw to beat you. Same if you make the nut flush, you probably won't get action from 2-pair, sets, or lower flushes.
ChrisOfSpades
QUOTE (cdddc75 @ Tuesday, May 30th, 2006, 1:14 PM) *
From the cutoff?

Seriously?


seriously. this hand isnt worth the time. even with a perfect flop your not likely to get action.
cdddc75
QUOTE (ChrisOfSpades @ Tuesday, May 30th, 2006, 2:25 PM) *
seriously. this hand isnt worth the time. even with a perfect flop your not likely to get action.


Good point. Only way you'd ever get paid is from a King high flush.
greatwhite
With this many people in the pot I'm folding the flop. He probablly has you beat since he's leading into 2 people that could possibly beat him. In these situations I rather raise then call. It makes it tuff for someone with AK to call, thinking that at best they might have less than 3 outs.
iggymcfly
Your cards don't work together well at all here. The only playable combinations are the Ac3c, and the 33. Other than that, you have A8, A3, 83, and 83. That just doesn't make for a very good all-around hand. You should really be folding this although if you play well post-flop, it's not a big deal. If you're going to be putting your whole stack in on trips no kicker though, then you should definitely be tossing this one.
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