1st time posting a hand forgive the no converting

still learning, just want some critique

hand 1

$25 PL Omaha - Tuesday, May 23, 18:47:18 ET 2006
Table Table 95214 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 5: Aidan1888 ( $29.71 )
Seat 10: Th3rdOLawA ( $53.14 )
Seat 7: Breauxdel ( $31.15 )
Seat 2: omnokion ( $25 )
Seat 8: gammalight ( $33.37 )
Seat 4: LifeIsGr8 ( $8.60 )
Seat 3: warlock1031 ( $24.55 )
Seat 6: PERRYKAT56 ( $24.65 )
Seat 1: Pipati4Ever ( $24.75 )
Pipati4Ever posts small blind [$0.10].
omnokion posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Breauxdel [ 5h 9c Qh Kc ]
warlock1031 calls [$0.25].
LifeIsGr8 folds.
>You have options at Table 96428 (No DP) Table!.
Aidan1888 folds.
PERRYKAT56 calls [$0.25].
Breauxdel calls [$0.25].
gammalight folds.
Th3rdOLawA folds.
Pipati4Ever calls [$0.15].
omnokion checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 7h, Jc ]
>You have options at Table 96428 (No DP) Table!.
Pipati4Ever checks.
omnokion checks.
warlock1031 checks.
PERRYKAT56 bets [$1.20].
Breauxdel raises [$4.80].








hand 2


***** Hand History for Game 4343990370 *****
$25 PL Omaha - Tuesday, May 23, 18:58:40 ET 2006
Table Clover Club (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SevenSuited ( $24.15 )
Seat 2: Olgoat05 ( $25.70 )
Seat 3: tdog48_2001 ( $9.40 )
Seat 4: dogger94 ( $20.43 )
Seat 5: pzhon ( $32.15 )
Seat 6: Remmy4_01 ( $21.75 )
Seat 7: Ingot ( $25.02 )
Seat 8: mkurtime ( $23.90 )
Seat 9: Breauxdel ( $58.60 )
Seat 10: student45 ( $38.60 )
dogger94 posts small blind [$0.10].
pzhon posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Breauxdel [ Kc Ac Ks 4s ]
>You have options at Table 96428 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 95214 (No DP) Table!.
Remmy4_01 calls [$0.25].
Ingot calls [$0.25].
mkurtime folds.
Breauxdel calls [$0.25].
student45 folds.
SevenSuited folds.
Olgoat05 folds.
tdog48_2001 calls [$0.25].
dogger94 calls [$0.15].
pzhon checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 6c, 3c ]
dogger94 checks.
>You have options at Table 96428 (No DP) Table!.
pzhon bets [$1.45].
>You have options at Table 95214 (No DP) Table!.
Remmy4_01 calls [$1.45].
Ingot calls [$1.45].
Breauxdel calls [$1.45].
>You have options at Table 95214 (No DP) Table!.
tdog48_2001 folds.
dogger94 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
pzhon checks.
Remmy4_01 checks.
>You have options at Table 95214 (No DP) Table!.
Ingot checks.
Breauxdel bets [$6.95]

Hand #1: I would just call the flop bet as you have 11 pure outs (3 8's, 3 A's, 3 10's and 2 9's). Your heart draw might not be good and you could easily be behind to a flopped straight or a set.

Hand #2: Looks fine - I raise there with the nut flush draw/2nd nut flush draw plus you could take it down right there.

I would probablly play both hands the same. However, there's nothing wrong with just calling the flop with the first hand.

i think this converter works for PLO

http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter

to the hands, im just learning PLO but i would usually fold hand 1 pre-flop. too-tight?

Yeah, that's tight. In fact, if I'm in the cutoff I'm raising.

Hand 1 I would fold pre-flop. As you played it, I would probably just call the flop, afraid that my opponent would re-pot it with the made straight.

Hand 2 looks good.

I can't believe all the people who are saying fold preflop. I'd raise it before I'd fold it. It's got a dangler, but it's double suited and has a lot of possibilities.

hand1: Why are we worried about him repotting it w/ the made str8? As long as he doesn't have a better flush draw to go w/ it, we're crushing a made str8 right now. even if he's sharing kq w/ us we're ahead. I'm only worried about a heart draw not being good. which will usually put as at about 2:1 dog. (Worst case is something like 20:1 though).
I think most of the time we're atleast 50/50 or crushing him if he's god a made str8. I really like post flop w/ hand 1. i hope he's god something like a made str8.

As a tangent, could anyone of you fold a hand like 8h 9h jd qd in the villian's position?

Hand 2: looks good to me.

RESULTS:

hand1:
EP guy called flop bet, orig potter folded. non heart 9 on turn, got paid off


Hand 2:

no callers



both worked out great but trying to be play orientated not results

What called you on hand 1? It'd be scared at that point that my hearts were dead.