chiefs2
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 3:43 PM
I was playing at a local card room and it was my first night playing with these people besides two people I knew. I was up against my friend in a hand who reffered me to the card room. We were playing 1-2 NL and I believed he made a raise of 10 may have been 12 but anyway I call with AK and the guy after me calls. The flop comes 9 5 3 all hearts. My friend is first to act and he pushes for 70 and I have 71 sitting in front of me so Iam all in and the guy after me folds. We flip all cards over he has AQ no heart and I have AK the Ace of hearts. My hand holds up and I win the pot, but my friend is pretty upset. He later says "whyd u make that call then, i was representing a pocket pair pretty well, u had a 25% chance of winning with ur flush draw and maybe catching an over, not to mention im ur friend and brought you there, i dont understand the reason u called there." I felt I had close to correct pot odds when I made the call, I did not calculate but that is why I made the call. Thinking about it now I was only getting 1.5 on my money when I needed 2.1 on my money with 15 outs. I would just like to hear some opinions on the pot I won.
AspiringPro
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 3:55 PM
incorrect move. But your friend is completely out of line to moan at your call just because you were given a lift up. Once at the poker table every man for himself he should know that. Does he expect you to fold every time he bets?
Steamed Rice
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 3:57 PM
i thought youre supposed to check it down when youre in a pot with friends
someone owes me some money
chiefs2
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 3:58 PM
[quote name='AspiringPro' date='Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 3:55 PM' post='1087831']
incorrect move. But your friend is completely out of line to moan at your call just because you were given a lift up. Once at the poker table every man for himself he should know that. Does he expect you to fold every time he bets?
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If the guy would have called after me would it still been an incorrect hand. Yeah it was a loose call but there are way way looser calls that people make. Yeah I 100 percent agree with your statement about every man for themselv at a table.
mosley
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 3:59 PM
depending on how your friend plays, it might be a good call. you guys need to have a talk about what to expect from each other when you play cards. there are no friends at the table. if he thinks you owe him something for bringing you there, then discuss how much he thinks you owe him and maybe take him for some beers or something as a token of your appreciation. it kind of sounds like he's just whining a little bit.
chiefs2
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 4:02 PM
QUOTE (mosley @ Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 3:59 PM)

depending on how your friend plays, it might be a good call. you guys need to have a talk about what to expect from each other when you play cards. there are no friends at the table. if he thinks you owe him something for bringing you there, then discuss how much he thinks you owe him and maybe take him for some beers or something as a token of your appreciation. it kind of sounds like he's just whining a little bit.
I did not have much of a clue on how my friend played and no idea on how the other guy played. I just thought I was getting decent pot odds to make the call. Eventually it showed up he had nothing, and now thinking about that was a stupid move to push with 70 first to act with nothing.
timwakefield
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 4:41 PM
Loose call, but your friend is a jerk for getting mad at you. Tell him that if he doesn't want you calling, he shouldn't push all-in against you.
joelav128
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 4:45 PM
its weird when you play with friends... thats why i try not to when i play online.
but i guess it is every man for himself after my buddy called my all in with just a flush draw and laughed as he raked in my chips....
Hatchet
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 4:48 PM
QUOTE (timwakefield @ Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 5:41 PM)

Loose call, but your friend is a jerk for getting mad at you. Tell him that if he doesn't want you calling, he shouldn't push all-in against you.
good call unless he has aces or made set or flush. even against kk you win close to 45%.
PQH
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 4:53 PM
Well you are only getting like 1.3 to call and I don’t think you can consider your self to have 15 outs at best 9. Not to mention you are only invested 10-12 dollars
Personally easy to get away from, you were lucky he had AQ there are a lot of hands that could have easily beat you since he did raise preflop such as any pair would be possible.
thenamezjohn
Monday, May 22nd, 2006, 2:19 PM
easy way to settle it.. never play on the same table as your friend..
as far as your play.. IMO.. although your pot odds werent right.. you were drawing to nut flush [barring an open ended or gut shot straight flush].. i probably would have done the same as you..
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