Comment on preflop as well. In process of learning now.

Omaha Hi $0.50-$0.50 PL (Real Money), #498,260,666
Table Cork, 18 May 2006 6:24 PM ET
Seat 1: scott3705 ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 2: ALL_IN_BEALE ($20.80 in chips)
Seat 3: weistronaut ($93.45 in chips)
Seat 4: sirflatland ($55.15 in chips)
Seat 5: Klikkblikk2 ($8.50 in chips)
Seat 7: wurkbytes ($140.80 in chips)
Seat 9: Tuuriperse ($104.50 in chips)
Seat 10: SlTTING OUT ($87.60 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
Tuuriperse posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
SlTTING OUT folds, scott3705 calls $0.50, ALL_IN_BEALE calls $0.50, weistronaut folds, sirflatland folds, Klikkblikk2 calls $0.50, wurkbytes calls $0.50, Tuuriperse checks.

FLOP [board cards 10C,8D,3C ]
Tuuriperse checks, scott3705 bets $2.50, ALL_IN_BEALE folds, Klikkblikk2 folds, wurkbytes calls $2.50, Tuuriperse folds.

TURN [board cards 10C,8D,3C,AS ]
scott3705 bets $7.50, wurkbytes bets $30, scott3705 calls $22.50.

RIVER [board cards 10C,8D,3C,AS,2C ]
scott3705 bets $16.50 and is all-in, wurkbytes calls $16.50.

SHOWDOWN
scott3705 shows [ 7C,AC,QS,9H ]


I had a mental lapse mutitabling and thought the pot was laying me 2:1 which justfiies a call in worse case scenario. 10 10. But I couldn't even figure what plays this hand like this. and that i might even be ahead here.

I don't like your bet on the turn, but after his raise you pretty much have to call with all your outs.

Am i usually betting into a big hand here, in which case i'm in C/F mode? I felt like he was drawing, in which case, that Ace certainly didn't help him.

If you think he would make a donk call on the flop with a nonnut flush draw or some kind of straight draw (making your pair of aces the best hand), you should bet the turn.

But because of the draw-heavy flop, many players will just call a bet with a strong made hand like a set, planning to raise a safe turn. That's why I would usually just go for the check-call on the turn. With your big draw, folding is not an option -- with 15 outs, you have odds to call a potsized bet.

I would be check-calling that turn. I think it's very likely that your opponent flopped 2 pair or a set. Less likely, but also possible that he has a big draw. I would check, and if he is drawing he will likely check as well. If he bets you are calling.

The problem with potting it is that when he re-pots you are priced out of your big draw, but you ARE getting odds to check and call his pot-bet.

What hand can't I call on the turn that he repots?

Worst case I'm coming up w/ is tt79 which I still have 31% equity on the turn. If he had flopped 2 pair It's going to put me about 1.5/1 depending on other draws and if I'm against a set, i'll usually bet about 2/1. So even when I get reraised, I'm still calling if he turns his cards face up and I have my worst case scenario.

The bet was sort testing the limits of what's proper aggression. I thought he was drawing at the flop and was hoping to take it down on the turn. I was sort of suprised to see him come over the top.

easy fold preflop. not close. you know how there are about 5 hands you'll play UTG in NL hold 'em? the same goes for PLO.

Yes, I think if anything in my game, My preflop hand selection leaves a lot to be desired. I am beginning to feel fairly comfortable post flop, but I'm just not sure what is playable from EP. I am trying to play AAxx, 3str8 w/ suited A, 4 str8 hands. (Sorry. Don't know the omaha terminology that well).

Are there any good books for omaha hi? Figure that would be pretty helpful w/ this part of my game.

Berman's section in SS2 is decent. I'd say read that and then hang around the forums here and at 2+2.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/postlist...0&Board=PLOmaha

I guess I was wrong about him pricing you out on the turn, but I still think you should check-call. Yes you may be getting correct odds to call his re-pot, but do you want to be putting more money in as an underdog going to the river?


mk of course was correct that this is an easy fold preflop.

In a simplified nutshell, what's your requirements for limping from EP?

lol I edited my post, but I guess I was too late.

Anyways, I would limp from EP with bad aces or kings (would raise with good ones), mediocre to good queens (strong queens I raise, bad queens I fold), mid to high 4 card straights, and high cards double-suited (AKJT for example). I will also sometimes play hands like 9988 doublesuited.

I may be way off though.

Although betting isn't that bad, but I would just check-call the turn. One reason I can see for betting is that if he is on a draw yhe can be a significant underdog. However, you have so many potential cards for what he might be drawing to that I think his most probable hand would be a set. (Probablly 10's or 8's). In this case you are pretty good sized dog as only a J,6, and 8 clubs will help you. That's 14 outs out of 42 cards. (If they have a set and 2 random cards those are your odds) So your odds are most likely going to be exactly 2-1.

I'd say the whole hand's fine. You've got 15 outs to the nuts on the turn so I wouldn't worry about that.

The preflop play would get you trouble against decent players, but at this level, you can play a ton of hand profitably just because people have no idea how to ply postflop.

So overall, I'd say everything's good. NH.