this table is VERY loose, mosttimes 3 or more players seen river/showdown

6 limps to me, 75s in SB, I call BB checks

flop 555

is this a bet? why not bet out and let people with 66 and up, raise and people with A/K/Q high or almost any two, call any try to hit a full house?

Because why would you bet out into a loose table unless you didnt' already have at least a boat?


So, anyone without a boat won't call your flop bet.

Anyone with 44-99 will think about it pretty hard and won't call anything on the turn or riv.

Just because the table is loose doesn't mean it's stupid.

Don't bet. Let them bet it for you on the flop and turn and then bet the river.

these loose donks dont think like that

they think "he doesnt have the 5, else he'd check. So if i match my whole cards, Ill win"


and I have seen people chase a J7 to the river in sits. like this

I didn't say they'd put you on a 5, I said they'd put you on at least a boat.

The only way I think you could really have them thinking you were on a complete bluff is if you bet big; but that's super risky to the value of this hand.

If you have super-loose donks, they're going to bet. They expect a raise on the turn, don't bite, don't raise. Bet into them on the river. That'll confuse enough to get calls from A-high, any pckt pair or made boat.

Check...

Its gonna get bet, raised and then you can call or re raise..I think your missing out on at least a few bets by donkeys by leading out after this..

Just my 2 cents, you have quads no worries!

I'd min bet it and see what happens...

Awful.

Bet big or check/call the flop.

i like check/call

If you bet and everyone folds you are really going to wish that you checked. Just check it and hope that someone catches up by the river.

I bet here at a loose table.

bet out, nobody ever puts you on quads

Eh..I think we need to define loose.

Are these players loose preflop? Do they make loose calls? Or by loose, does the OP mean that their play erratic and they make silly river calls with J high?

If loose = bad, then, sure, make a bet. If loose means, willing to call big bets with speculative hands(though, no speculative hand hits this flop except ours), then, sure, I'd consider betting. Depends on the # of other players, the likelihood we'll get one or more callers, and how well we play out of position.

I basically agree with this, but really it does not matter too much. Basically whatever you do, they will *never* put you on quads. It just seems so impossible. Definitely don't min bet though...cause then they might be suspicious.

1) You can bet out and you get a couple people with PPs to call you down the whole way.

2) You can check flop, and if a EP guy bets and get a couple callers, then you could raise(yeah,,,why would quads check-raise?) and then bet out turn/river....fukc...check-raise push in this case...

3) you can check flop, if only late pos bets or it checks down, then you could just call and hopefully induce other callers.. Then probably bet out big turn/river. Here, you are representing that the turn hit you, and you will get people to surely call you down if they hit that turn too. A lower PP to turn card, might now fold though.


Conclusion....it does not matter too much...just bet big when you do(no min bets/raises). It is less believable when you do this and you set yourself up to take someones stack(yes a guy with highish PP or with a FH on the turn will give you his stack).

if the table's that loose I'd let them do the betting for you.

the table is loose

not aggressive

theres a difference