pokerplayer24
Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 11:28 PM
No reads. One of the toughest change overs for me going from SH to full ring lately has been having these mid pps 88-1010 when its 3 bets to me in whats going to be multi way pots.
PokerStars 30/60 Hold'em (7 handed)
Hand History Converter Tool from
FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 9

, 9

.
1 fold,
MP1 raises,
MP2 3-bets, CO calls,
2 folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.
Flop: (12.50 SB) 6

, 2

, 8
(4 players)Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks,
CO bets,
Hero raises, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls.
Turn: (8.25 BB) 5
(2 players)Hero bets, CO calls.
River: (10.25 BB) J
(2 players)Hero bets, CO calls.
Final Pot: 12.25 BB
checkymcfold
Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 11:33 PM
full ring, folding pf is not bad barring reads on everyone. calling is not bad either, but it can be much, much costlier, like i'm guessing this is if you're posting the hand.
if you have a read that the 3-bettor will do that with most pairs to isolate, i'm often likely to cap this and fold to a flop raise, otherwise doing exactly what you did.
can you say more about your reads on these guys?
screech
Wednesday, May 17th, 2006, 4:16 AM
I think CO has JJ/TT here a ton, especially since it looks like MP1 and MP2 have high unpaired cards.
I guess CO could be loose and have something like A8s or 77 or the other 99 here, but I don't know. I would play it the same way postflop, because the pot is big, your OOP, and you may catch him semi-bluffing with ace high or with some loose weaker pair.
Preflop is close. You are getting a bit less then 5:1 when you consider that it may get capped, and your implied odds are kinda shitty because you are paying 1BB preflop instead of 1SB, so you have to make more postflop. But that is kind of offset by the fact that you have 3 other opponents who really like their hands so you will probably get action if you hit your set.
Either way, I think pf is close, and once you play pf, postflop is close too. Overall, I think pf is slightly -ev and postflop is slightly +ev.